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[efyu_lemonardo]

They wouldn't need to be large. I think the benefits outweigh the risk in this case. Water is much more risky than dust, and that will find a way in regardless unless this thing is waterproofed and stupid expensive.

If the vents are on the sides and the controllers are locked in tight and sealed it wouldn't be a huge problem.

Thankyou both for your input. I had assumed previous Nintendo handhelds were water tight. This isn't my area of expertise at all but if people more familiar say it can be done that's good news.

 

[Plum]

I'm willing to bet part of the delay was because Nintendo wanted to move to the Tegra X2 instead of X1. That thing rendering at 540p (or 720p) on the handheld will be able to create some really great graphics I think, at least Xbox One standards. Now how they'll get that to look good at 1080p whilst sharing parity is another question.

 

[kuroneko0509]

Disks can't fit in a handheld console. lol

umd fits tho :V

 

[blu]

ARM when all your rivals and PC use x86?

Haha RIP Nintendo.

Unless you're going with the WiiU game development or just ending the console approach please just end your hardware department it's clear that you have no idea what you're doing in the West. The sales data clearly shows power and graphics sell in the West.

Now in Japan I can see this working somewhat.

^ We have an endless supply of those, don't we?

 

[UberLevi]

So will the display be too big to carry around or too small to set across the living room?

 

[Iriscomeback]

A hybrid on Tegra, I knew it!!

Sounds really cool, can't wait for the official reveal!

 

[Crayolan]

So is this really confirmed?

For me, this sounds a bit crazy, to be honest. And the fact that its been ages since I didnt see somebody playing a handheld outside makes it even worse. Personaly, the obvious lack on performance for the device will also affect the number of ports / third parties, but I guess Tegra is pretty easy to code for too, so really mixed feelings.

Sounds like a really great concept that most probably could end up being a mess.

If the thing with the base dock is true, would be cool if they just released another one in the future that is able to make the console more powerful and act like a real console.

no

 

[Falchion]

I really hope the mobile screen is very nice and has Super IPS or whatever to be visible in the sunlight. The 3DS screen gets washed out so easily.

 

[Griss]

Anything about region lock?

Nothing, but jesus this concerns me. Region locking a portable device in 2017 would be so damn asinine.

Also, for me, my Wii U is North American, my 3DS European. (Those are the regions I lived in when each released.) I'll have to choose which set of games I take forward. That's if there's any digital / VC compatibility at all. If there's not I guess it makes things easier!

 

[UrbanRats]

Generally speaking, a modern Tegra would have a more advanced feature set, and at least somewhat more horsepower than the Wii U.

Without the specifics, it's hard to say too directly what it would look like.

Somewhat more horsepower than a WiiU isn't really what I was hoping for in 2017, but since a lot seem to dig the idea here, i guess i'll just have to accept it.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

Nintendo Go.

Yep. That would be the perfect name both for the concept and building off Pokemon Go nameshare.

 

[ecosse_011172]

I am out of the loop on how much technology has advanced since 2012. It may be possible this is more powerful. Nintendo assured it would run Zelda better, didn't they?

No, they didn't, they said it would be the same experience.

 

[YAWN]

End of the main series from Game Freak. There would still be spinoffs, and maybe even a reboot by another dev. Game Freak might shift focus to mobile, current consoles, and PC. We already know that they have PS4 and Xbone dev kits, and I doubt that they bought them to make only one game. Perhaps they were preparing to part ways with Nintendo.

What the actual chuff?

 

[ArtHands]

Having two seperate devices handheld and home console with shared library would have made more sense. Ala PS vita.

That make lesser sense actually. You just need to buy 1 physical copy of the game and you can play it on your TV or outdoor in this case.

You can't put your Vita card into your PS4, or your PS4 disc into your Vita.

 

[TannerDemoz]

Plot twist: the detachable controllers are just two nunchucks.

Seriously though, this looks absolutely fantastic. Ace news.

Agree with a couple of posts saying Nintendo would fare well to have a new flagship IP. I'm just hoping we get a new Metroid.

 

[Kouriozan]

So third parties are pretty much out after a year right?

Nah....they are already out before that thing release.
Ubisoft won't risk porting another AAA game to a Nintendo console ever, for example.

 

[Gartooth]

No wonder we didn't get Pokemon Z. Gamefreak needed to move fast and get one more gen in on the 3DS before being forced to make a mainline game on consoles.

 

[JP]

here's my 3Ds WiiU hybrid

There's quite a high chance that your version will compare well to what Nintendo end up releasing.

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

Ports for Tegra when PC/Ps4/One using arm/x86? + nintendo system?


not gonna happening

It would explain the silence of a lot of third party developers for sure. It will be another Wii U situation in that case where i'll just buy it for the exclusives.

 

[jroc74]

Did Nintendo really worry that MS and Sony would copy this? Those two wont touch a new handheld probably ever again.

Even if Sony did....Nintendo dont have to worry. Sony has been killing it with home consoles. I dont see them jeopardizing that with a hybrid.

Even a Tegra X1 portable system is going to be a massive leap above PS Vita.

Yup. And the Vita was a powerhouse.

 

[Onaco]

I know this is Nintendo we're talking about, but I'm hoping that docking station can be replaced in the future with a dock that can expand the RAM, CPU, GPU, etc. when docked. That way you can keep playing on your old model, even if say a Tegra 3 version comes in 2020, or a Tegra 4 in 2022... I would assume it would lose the portability aspect by choosing to use the upgraded dock, but it would be a cheaper upgrade than buying a new NX device. Perhaps a $150 difference or so between upgrading the entire unit or just getting an upgraded dock.

 

[NateDrake]

No, they didn't, they said it would be the same experience.

Same experience but with some enhancements.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

ARM when all your rivals and PC use x86?

Haha RIP Nintendo.

Unless you're going with the WiiU game development or just ending the console approach please just end your hardware department it's clear that you have no idea what you're doing in the West. The sales data clearly shows power and graphics sell in the West.

Now in Japan I can see this working somewhat.

The sales data also currently indicates that the West is currently being very well served between MS, Sony and PC. How exactly do you propose Nintendo brute force their way into that race? With Animal Crossing and Mario Party?

 

[Enduin]

It depends on the game but I wouldn't really want to play a jump & run using a dpad for buttons.

Sticking the other player with the gimp controller is a time honored tradition. It's like the modern day equivalent of getting that knock off PSX controller at your friend's house.

 

[NolbertoS]

Also, I had the impression that the Vita already kinda proved that the masses aren't really interested in traditional console experiences on a handheld. What looks to be an amazing idea on paper 'OMG Uncharted in the palm of my hands!' quickly wears out it's welcome in practice where people want games that tailor to the platform's strengths and are playable in short bursts.

The masses aren't interested in playing inferior ports of the same game, if the game is already available on PS3. Nintendo can satisfy both martlet segments, by having the same graphical quality from TV to portable. Reason Vita died was more due to no original IP's on the handheld. If Sony were smarter, they could've made a hybrid themselves and maybe the portable wars would've been different. Nintendo's concept is kinda like remote play, except the graphical quality won't be taking a dip from TV to handheld, and if it is, hoping it's minor. Also Nintendo can introduce more powerful version of this down the road once technology gets better that PS4 and XB1 graphics will become reality. I really hope Nintendo allows USB storage of some kinds. Micro USB Carda are great but still limited in size of storage

 

[duckroll]

And with this, the expectation of backward compatibility in a new generation of consoles is 100% dead. Sony, MS, Nintendo. Boom.

 

[Rncewind]

So third parties are pretty much out after a year right?

most likely they are not in to begin with

 

[GWX]

But I thought it was confirmed that the NX is not a hybrid. Now what? :/

 

[Griss]

Yeah if you want this to primarily be a console you could be screwed over if all the games are designed to be portable experiences with short bursts lf gameplay.

It'll have Zelda: BotW. And that is anything but a 'short bursts of gameplay' game. I'd say there's nothing to worry about there.

There are plenty of RPGs etc on 3DS that play no differently than they would on a console and are suited for 1-2 hour play sessions.

But I thought it was confirmed that the NX is not a hybrid. Now what? :/

That was an ancient and somewhat ambiguous statement by Iwata that should never have been taken as gospel. And as to the now what, now enjoy your new hybrid.

And with this, the expectation of backward compatibility in a new generation of consoles is 100% dead. Sony, MS, Nintendo. Boom.

One could say that with the Neo and Scorpio upcoming we're actually about to enter a whole new era of backwards compatibility. I'd expect PS5 to run Neo games, for example, and so on. Scorpio will run XB1 games.

Each of the console makers just happened to need a hardware refresh. I'm glad they each went through with it.

 

[Nirolak]

Honestly i think most ppl dont really know what the X1 is capable off and think of the Tegra 3 used in the og Nexus 7 or something. We have a bunch of posts here where people seem to think it will produce worse graphics than what we currently see on WiiU.

Even the K1 was capable of what I'd basically consider to be modern graphics.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I'm ready for NX

 

[jackal27]

As an almost exclusively handheld gamer, this sounds like my absolute dream. All the benefits of a handheld console with the added features of couch multiplayer and optional TV display.

 

[coljae]

As someone who travels and stays in hotels a lot this has my attention instantly.

Colour me curious.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

NX struggling to sustain SS

Neo SS2

Scorpio SS3

PC SSB ( God )

 

[DrROBschiz]

Even a Tegra X1 portable system is going to be a massive leap above PS Vita.

Yup!

Vita was a pretty powerful portable for all of a year or two before the mobile chips kept iterating at such a rapid pace

Its pretty crazy

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Nah....they are already out before that thing release.
Ubisoft won't risk porting another AAA game to a Nintendo console ever, for example.

Western third parties (that aren't indie)? Yeah, probably. Aside token stuff like Skylanders and Lego.

Japanese third parties though? Not by a long shot.

 

[XenodudeX]

So mainly console owners get the short end of a stick in order for Nintendo to focus on a market being dominated by smart phones. Yeah, I won't be buying this.

 

[Peter Ian Staker]

So third parties are pretty much out after a year right?

Pretty much. I don't know why so many people are so excited.
Nobody outside the really hardcore Nintendo crowd is going to buy this.

 

[RPGamer92]

And with this, the expectation of backward compatibility in a new generation of consoles is 100% dead. Sony, MS, Nintendo. Boom.

But MS is gonna be BC.

 

[Barry Burton]

So yeah, exciting times if you haven't had your head in the sand for the past decade.

Probably the most salient point in the whole thread, and one that everyone really needs to grasp: This was always the most-likely next step for Nintendo, and the one that made the most sense going forward.

Nintendo isn't going to complete head-to-head with Sony and Microsoft, and if they ever were to do so again, this certainly isn't the right time for it. There are multiple well-established systems and services out there for AAA multi-platform games, and while the NX might get some of those games, it was never going to be high on the priority list during the design phase.

On paper, it's pretty promising. Certainly, for me as a Nintendo fan that owns every console anyways, I love the idea of having one system to play Nintendo games instead of two. Power/third party support? Not a big deal at all for me. That's what I have my PS4 and XBO for. I'm glad Nintendo isn't just doing the same thing they are.

And now, we sit back and wait and see how Nintendo will sell it.

 

[_PsiFire_]

If it really is Nvidia Tegra we'll definitely hear something on August 22nd when Nvidia announces Tegra Next.

Edit: reveals Tegra Next is more like it.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Zelda Breath of the Wild in my pocket? Yes please.

I remember that this was the exact pre-release sentiment when Vita was announced. Turns out, handhelds are a rather poor platform for huge AAA blockbusters that are traditionally on consoles.
And the Vita had a high-res OLED display and proper control inputs.

If anything, i'd be worried that this console would slowly divert all of Nintendo's development towards making handheld-style games that play to the device's portable strengths. They'll be good games none the less, but it's going to sting if you're more interested in the huge epic games traditionally seen on Nintendo home consoles.

The more I think about it, the more I think Nintendo is just transitioning out of the home console business entirely. It's too competitive a market. The NX having a TV-out and docking system is just a strategy to ease into the handheld-only strategy without pissing off their loyal console fanbase.

 

[kami_sama]

And with this, the expectation of backward compatibility in a new generation of consoles is 100% dead. Sony, MS, Nintendo. Boom.

Well, MS istill has some sort of BC, only through emulation.

Also, if this is true, It isn't what I expected, at all.

 

[Josh5890]

Ok. Either Nintendo is laughing at us for being so far off or they are thinking "We almost made it to the end without leaks"

 

[LurkFish17]

Rather than question specs, question development tools.

All the talent and tech in the world can't make hardware render something it can't handle.

 

[Busty]

So it's literally what we all thought it was

This.

Like exactly.

I like this for numerous reasons.

1) Eliminates software drought. Nintendo can't support two libraries.
2) System will get easy ports from PS4/XB1
3) Two detachable controllers gives plenty of possibilities for control schemes.

You didn't read the OP, did you?

So third parties are pretty much out after the presentation?

Fixed.

Nintendo's first party dominance will be more acute on a handheld.

 

[Trago]

All those VC games, stuck on Wii U.

What a damn shame.

 

[seb_n]

I think you will be able to.

Not only that, there is of course the possibility of using the nvidia home streaming solution, you might be able to stream from your pc if you have an nvidia graphics card, that certainly sounds interesting.

 

[DieH@rd]

Activley cooled handheld console... well, there is first time for everything.

As for 32gb carts.. that shit is gonna be pricey, and most likely introduce shipment restrictions on publishers. There is a finite ammount of them that can be made, which is not the case for (much more cheaper) BD discs. Game prices will be higher because of this.

Anyhow, the age of nitendo home consoles looks to be done. They finished that part of their history with one of hte the worst performing consoles of all times, devastating failure that catered only to barely more than a dozen milions of their core fans. Instead of making a successor in the home console space, they are focusing on a low powered mobile ARM design and putting a HDMI port on it.

 

[HotHamBoy]

So much for the NX version of Breath of the Wild being vastly superior, running at 4k etc.

The layout looks like the Wii U Gamepad, which I find very comfortable because of the finger shelf that sticks out the back. Since this is meant to be a portable I don't see it being able to have that same comfortable form factor.

The PSP Go already did the portable/console years ago. While the Go is seen as a historical joke by most, this will be seen as bold and inventive just because it says "Nintendo" on it.

PSP Go is my favorite handheld formfactor. As much as I love the Vita and the gorgeous screen, I wish they had gone with that design. PSP Go is super portable, slip it in your pocket and forget about it.