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[Ninja Scooter]

No, your totally off the mark lol. It did turn people who dont read comic books to watch every other movie they put out. ANd it did get people to buy digital comic books and read. Nintendo using nostalgia could have been making new games of beloved franchises, and connect them with a single branding for "NEW Nintendo Experience". But they just want to make partners, share holders happy by making this console hybrid that will play mobile, dedicated handheld and home console games.

It's their own fault they are in the position they are in, and them not taking anything away from PS3, or even Wii u era that people just want games, and easy ways to play them. They didn't revamp their internal ways of how they make business decisions. Which is why they have very little for western developers. They took too long to make any kind of significant change to online/store/account. Or even have one that mattered for that matter.

Comic book sales from the data I've seen haven't seen a significant, long standing push from the movies becoming cultural phenonkmens. There are plenty of people that just watch the movies, and that's okay. Marvel's movie business doesn't exist to drive people to comic books, it exists as its own revenue stream that trades off of their popular IPs, just like all these other endeavors for Nintendo, be it mobile, or theme parks or one-off retro consoles, can be the same for Nintendo. Their end game no longer needs to be selling consoles to people. That's the point of the comparison. Too many people are looking at this stuff from really narrow, really dated perceptions of what a company like Nintendo is in 2016.

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

See, I don't get this, why having 3 consoles with similar power but with exclusives?

Is that what you're really happy with? A console that can't even access the graphical peaks of the medium-end card from 3 years ago on the X1 that is launching NEXT year? On a console?

 

[Obscuritas]

So much THIS. It's why I've always been excited about the prospect of NX having a shared library, regardless of any other hardware details. No more "I wish I didn't have to play this game on a tiny screen" or "I wish I could take this game on the road". No more need to buy two systems to get your full Nintendo fix, and more flexibility and choice as to how you'll experience it.

As just a fan of Nintendo games, at the very least it's hard to not be super-excited about the NX's potential. I'm already more interested in NX than I ever was for the Wii U, and we still don't know a whole heck of a lot about it.

Yup.

Even after a lot of fake leaks, we always knew that the shared gaming library was a given.

 

[dangeraaron10]

Nintendo, just come out and tell us what it is already. I still think having only one platform to release games will consolidate an otherwise split (3DS and Wii U situation) will make it so Nintendo doesn't NEED to rely on 3rd parties as their software output on their own is amazing if you take both previous home/portable consoles into account. I like the idea, but I need to see what it looks like. I will not buy it if it has shit ergonomics, which is incredibly important in a handheld.

Unified library sounds amazing, detachable controllers sounds janky. I need to see more.

 

[Oersted]

NX COMMERCIAL:

*scene is a dark alley in the city at night*

DRUG DEALER: "No, Reggie — please! Please! I'll get you the money! I'm good for it!"

REGGIE: "No dice. Your time is up.*

*Reggie shoots the drug dealer, who falls dead in the alley. Reggie then pulls out his NX and starts playing Animal Crossing — outside!*

*cut to scene at Reggie's house*

REGGIE: "Boy you're heavy.*

*Reggie is feeding the drug dealer's body through the paper shredder in his home office. He then pulls out his NX and plays Animal Crossing — at home!*

Thats the spirit.

 

[Papacheeks]

What should they have done instead?

A really good classically designed console that pulls on your inner child strings. And it could have used cartridges. Microsoft not doing well is the perfect time for them to strike. ANd if Scorpio doesn't do well or their pc initiative then NINTEDNO could with tehright games, services, and momentum taken a lot of market from xbox.

But they dont want to compete with any of them so they are doing this handheld hybrid instead.

I mean I get it, and for people excited that's great, but not what I at least was hoping for, i had hoped they leaned some things from Wii/Wii u. But I guess not.

 

[Disxo]

Looks awesome, a dream come true.
Think it needs whatsapp and snapchat support :l

 

[AmyS]

Makes sense

Agreed.

Also, with regard to the SCD, even though multiple SCDs can be daisy chained together, someone brought up the point that there has to be a limit on the # of SCDs, and I took that to mean a practical limit, like two.

 

[Deku Tree]

Cartridges in 2017 is ridiculous. Games should be digital downloads with cloud saves. Lol Nintendo.

 

[paragonpro]

Really dissapointed, I was hoping the nx would at least bring nintendo to parity with the ps4 and xbox one. Unless im
Blown away by the initial reveal and this is some how a pretty powerful console (if its primarily a hand held, it wont be) than ill be skipping this one.

 

[ArcaneFreeze]

That's a good point. I doubt Nintendo would allow devs to just have one over the other as that would make half of the system's functionality worthless but at the same time some games might just not work on the go.

Maybe this will be the first Nintendo console without Just Dance. O:

Just Dance 2017 is already confirmed for NX which is why I brought up the whole choosing between console and handheld thing.

 

[Milly Osworth]

I tweeted at Tom Phillips who confirmed that it is two detachable controllers and not just two halves of one whole controller.

This is the weirdest part to me.

I bet Miyamoto and co have this weird fantasy of people playing together on a tiny screen all over the world.

...

 

[Durante]

Yes, but they're not miracle machines. Under full load - which you have to expect from a dedicated gaming device - they'll still chew a smartphone battery out in 1-2 hours. You aren't getting 1080p on the go no matter how you slice it.

Yeah, even if they go with a very modern process and custom chip I wouldn't expect 512 GFLOPs in portable mode.

 

[ASIS]

The dock is more than likely going to add additional power.

How is that even possible?

 

[lt519]

Yessss. What I've wanted them to do for a long time. No more splitting resources between mobile and handheld.

 

[Vena]

The dev units use this:
Which is just about a WiiU. It's very dissapointing.

Thr dev kits are using an OCed X1. Retail isn't using an OCed chip.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

I don't remeber evevn once when playing 3DS saying "I wish I could play this on a big TV screen".

Conversely I say it every time I play a handheld game at home as I hate the small screen and bad ergonomics and just put up with it for the exclusive games. I loved the Super Gameboy and GBA players back in the day.

 

[ZeroX03]

Yeeaahh... I still don't buy it. First, is Eurogamer even a credible source?

They're not infallible, but about as credible as it gets. Kotaku are saying they've heard similar too.

 

[Stlunarick999]

As a strongly invested Vita owner I can say that I'm excited Nintendo is making something I can take on the go again and enjoy at home.

A console like this has long been the dream of a 90's kid like me, where phones just don't do most games justice. Not to mention the idea of all Nintendo studios working on games for one device, instead of segmenting their audience.

 

[Chris R]

Tegra X1? Wow, talk about a let down

Probably going to be a 720p screen then

 

[Hakai]

Weird that was Eurogamer who breaked the news and not Nikkei...

 

[Astral Dog]

this would be brilliant!

Pokemon GO?:O

 

[aBarreras]

Cartridges in 2017 is ridiculous. Games should be digital downloads with cloud saves. Lol Nintendo.

then buy them digital and thats fucking it. lol you

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Yeeaahh... I still don't buy it. First, is Eurogamer even a credible source?

You think mods, who have posted multiple times in here, would let a thread get to 35 pages with information on a new console from a bad source?

 

[Griss]

Yeah so this is gonna have:
Mario Kart
Pokemon
3D Mario
Zelda
Fire Emblem
SSB
Monster Hunter

On the go, or at home.
Shit me if this won't do well.

Exactly. If this doesn't sell the console then the problem is either that no one will buy Nintendo hardware, in which they'll know they need to go full mobile / 3rd party, or the problem is the software, in which case they are legit fucked as the games are their whole thing.

But after this console, they'll have a very good idea of what the situation is. Pro-tip:

Spoiler

It'll be a big success.

Yeeaahh... I still don't buy it. First, is Eurogamer even a credible source? Second, if true, then it tells me Nintendo has learned nothing from the Wii U. This sounds like the kind of confusing, needlessly complicated crap that plagued the Wii U, except here it sounds worse because this would be impractical as hell. Whatever the NX is, we'll just have to wait until Fall to truly see what it is, but I don't think this is it.

There is no more reliable gaming source than Eurogamer. It's the best gaming website there is.

 

[Huge Succeeded]

Cartridges in 2017 is ridiculous. Games should be digital downloads with cloud saves. Lol Nintendo.

What are you even talking about? What's wrong with cartridges? Acting like physical media is utterly obsolete 'in 2017', now THAT's worthy of derision.

Acting like platforms with physical media slots in 2017 don't allow for digital downloads and cloud saves at the same time... now it just looks like you're looking for reasons to bitch!

Lol Deku Tree.

 

[wapplew]

Nintendo unifying console and handheld, MS unifying PC and console, Sony halfway exiting handheld, what a time to be alive.

 

[BY2K]

Yeah so this is gonna have:
Mario Kart
Pokemon
3D Mario
Zelda
Fire Emblem
SSB
Monster Hunter

On the go, or at home.
Shit me if this won't do well.

Fuck.

 

[AmyS]

They're not infallible, but about as credible as it gets. Kotaku are saying they've heard similar too.

Yep, and Kotaku was right about Neo.

 

[Macka]

Could the 'docking station' have an additional GPU for when playing on the TV, like those Alienware external laptop GPU's?

Should have internal storage this way, too.

 

[Galava]

This announcement reminds me of a post I made a while ago about a potential "announcement ad".

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204822615&postcount=56

*Ad starts playing at NX reveal event*

*kid playing Mario Kart 9 on TV*

*kid gets up, takes a handheld console thing and leaves the house*

*keeps playing the same game with his friends just where he left it*

*text appears*

NX

*N and X get apart and logo transforms into:*

(ok, you can cut that last part)

Nintendo Home X Nintendo Go
There's no PLAY like it.
Anywhere, anytime.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

How is that even possible?

See their supplemental computing device patent that's been discussed a lot in GAF.

 

[Silent_Ocarina]

If true, it's kinda funny considering the constant "it's not a hybrid" preaching we've seen. I'm not sure how I feel about this. I personally think the idea has potential. But of course it sucks that the power is hamstrung by the desire for portable capabilities. Oh well. Can't wait to hear more, though.

 

[Papacheeks]

Comic book sales from the data I've seen haven't seen a significant, long standing push from the movies becoming cultural phenonkmens. There are plenty of people that just watch the movies, and that's okay. Marvel's movie business doesn't exist to drive people to comic books, it exists as its own revenue stream that trades off of their popular IPs, just like all these other endeavors for Nintendo, be it mobile, or theme parks or one-off retro consoles, can be the same for Nintendo. Their end game no longer needs to be selling consoles to people. That's the point of the comparison. Too many people are looking at this stuff from really narrow, really dated perceptions of what a company like Nintendo is in 2016.

I don't think you understood mainly what I was saying. "People who would never read issues of a marvel comic are basically doing that by going to see each movie that is all connected in a universe". Nintendo could have the same effect with their branding of a home console that makes gamers out of people who would never have bought a console in the first place.

 

[Lovely Salsa]

Why wouldnt Nintendo use the new Tegra? It would atleast be comparable to xbone

 

[Elven_Star]

Yes, but they're not miracle machines. Under full load - which you have to expect from a dedicated gaming device - they'll still chew a smartphone battery out in 1-2 hours. You aren't getting 1080p on the go no matter how you slice it.

Why would you even want 1080p on a small screen? Have you seen Vita's screen? It's 540p and no matter how hard you try, you won't notice any lack of quality (individual pixels, etc.). It's simply perfect.

 

[Kinsei]

Cartridges in 2017 is ridiculous. Games should be digital downloads with cloud saves. Lol Nintendo.

Yeah it sucks that there won't be any DDs just like the 3DS.

Wait a second...

 

[jstripes]

Anyone expeting Nintendo to compete with raw power and third parties AAA was delusional.

The landscape is definitely changed, and Nintendo is wise adapting to it, if this mean they're going to have a single console for home and portables.

More focused development, more games to the public, more money.

So many publishers had such a hard time adapting to the AAA landscape anyway. Let them concentrate on fun rather than being on the bleeding edge. I'm not 17 anymore, I don't need a hyper-spec'd machine.

We can't forget this: The NES was low-powered for its time. The Gameboy was low-powered for its time. The Wii was low-powered for its time.

Oh man, this is going to be such a shit show.

This is Nintendo leaving the home console industry right here.

Nah, they're not exiting the home console industry, they're forking it into something else.

Why wouldnt Nintendo use the new Tegra? It would atleast be comparable to xbone

Who says they're not? All the details are extremely vague so far.

 

[Jarmel]

As I said earlier, I don't think you're meant to. Like the vast majority of 3DS gamers, the idea is to play it at home, either when the TV is busy or you're in bed or on the crapper etc.

No portable console will ever have the ease of use or social acceptability of a smartphone, so attempting to fight phones in that way doesn't make sense to me.

But this is a shitty home console in the sense that it's underpowered compared to its competitors and the controllers will almost certainly be garbage ergonomics-wise.

So this feels like a half measure in both directions where you're left with the negatives of both sides.

 

[cyberheater]

Yes, but they're not miracle machines. Under full load - which you have to expect from a dedicated gaming device - they'll still chew a smartphone battery out in 1-2 hours. You aren't getting 1080p on the go no matter how you slice it.

You are talking rubbish.

nVidia claim around 5 hrs of gaming for it's K1 tablet and that has a full 1080p screen.

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/tablets/nvidia-shield-tablet-k1-1318312/review/2

 

[mokeyjoe]

A cartridge based system I can plug in to my TV?

Joy!

PC + this looks like my gaming future.

 

[DNAbro]

Cartridges in 2017 is ridiculous. Games should be digital downloads with cloud saves. Lol Nintendo.

Then buy digitally. I don't understand the bullshit people come up with to be upset about.

 

[Steejee]

I'd be pretty surprised if NX ends up launching with a stock X1 Tegra. By the time NX comes out the X1 will be about two years old. Nintendo may not go with the latest and greatest, but for a machine to use stock hardware that old would be weird even for them.

 

[Stealthcobra]

sounds doomed.... either will lack 3rd party support or constantly get gimped versions from the other consoles

 

[Jonneh3003]

How is that even possible?

Look at the patent a few posts up, the dock might be able to boost the resolution or have some kind of impact on the visuals.

 

[Proelite]

well, I expect upgrading power will be done via SCD if you don't want to buy the latest revision. if I were Nintendo, I'd double that dock port to be a high speed bus for external devices allowing for docks that do offer additional ram and GPU power. in the SDK, I'd offer easy facilities for querying SCD parameters then promote doing dynamic scaling like Forza Horizon or Halo 5 on XBox one so that having your game suddenly perform and look better just works without having to do massive patch.

Y have dock have two buses when the dock itself can just be the SCD?

The dock port would be really cheap already, just sell people new docks.


Base dock: No SCD
Dock 1: .5 teraflop and 2gb ram
Dock 2: 1 teraflop and 4gb ram
Dock 3: 2 teraflop and 8gb ram.

Etc.

No need for CPU expansion since programming for that kind of scability on CPU side is harder than massively parallel graphics.

 

[maxcriden]

Disagree with everyone saying it will not be "backwards" compatible with the Wii U.

It will in a sense. You'll get those games digitally from the eshop and will able to play them on NX(crazy if they don't do this). Also, someone mentioned that this system could be backwards compatible with the 3DS. I agree with this. I think they'll announce the system as backwards compatible with the 3DS(you may not get the 3D but you'll still be able to play the games). 3DS could be cartridge or digital download. Thoughts?

I thought the DF article essentially debunked this?

 

[March of the Crabs]

So much hyperbole and so many over-the-top reactions here. Let Nintendo reveal this stuff themselves in detail before you start talking about power, price, "abandoning consoles" etc

 

[lherre]

Maybe my sources are the same

Spoiler

j/k

 

[maquiladora]

So it's a hybrid .

Called it!

So much crow gonna be served. So so so so so much.