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A lot of people initially liked Phantom Menace.

He likes it now.

He liked all three of the prequels. He liked Daredevil and Man of Steel. He loved Dark Knight Rises to the point of tears. He loved Tomorrow Land to the point of tears!

He's an easy guy to please, is my point. Nothing wrong with liking shit but he's not the most critical dude around.
 
When did he defend it? I've only ever seen him take shots at it.

The UC is the Ultimate Cut version of BvS.

He went on a spiel about seeing the movie with Jason Mewes and appreciating it more when seeing how much Mewes liked it. He still stands by most of his criticisms of it, but he certainly defends it to a degree as well.
 
He likes it now.

He liked all three of the prequels. He liked Daredevil and Man of Steel. He loved Dark Knight Rises to the point of tears. He loved Tomorrow Land to the point of tears!

He's an easy guy to please, is my point. Nothing wrong with liking shit but he's not the most critical dude around.

Holy Hell...
 
He likes it now.

He liked all three of the prequels. He liked Daredevil and Man of Steel. He loved Dark Knight Rises to the point of tears. He loved Tomorrow Land to the point of tears!

He's an easy guy to please, is my point. Nothing wrong with liking shit but he's not the most critical dude around.

I see no fucking problem in liking Man of Steel.
 
He likes it now.

He liked all three of the prequels. He liked Daredevil and Man of Steel. He loved Dark Knight Rises to the point of tears. He loved Tomorrow Land to the point of tears!

He's an easy guy to please, is my point. Nothing wrong with liking shit but he's not the most critical dude around.

Well, that's all well and good but honestly this seems like a game of "How can we discredit people who liked the movie so far?" So far people who didn't like it are met with "Uh oh!" and people who did like it are hit with "Did they like any other crap?"

Am I wrong here? I'd be more than happy to take the L on it.
 
Well, that's all well and good but honestly this seems like a game of "How can we discredit people who liked the movie so far?" So far people who didn't like it are met with "Uh oh!" and people who did like it are hit with "Did they like any other crap?"

Am I wrong here? I'd be more than happy to take the L on it.

It seems that way. If you liked BvS (or any other movie that people think is a bad movie) your opinion on the movie has no value. But what if you liked BvS, X-Men Apocalypse and Civil War, Apocalypse Now is your favorite movie but also enjoy Adam Sandler's "movies"?
 
Well I'm changing my RT prediction to 2%.

We should rename the thread to 2uicide 2quad now to save time.

In fact I'm cancelling my movie tickets now.
 
Well I'm changing my RT prediction to 2%.

We should rename the thread to 2uicide 2quad now to save time.

In fact I'm cancelling my movie tickets now.

Shut.Down.Everything.

Seriously people, don't go in expecting the hypest movie to ever hype. Its a decent comic book movie with some funny moments and some great serious moments. Just...I dunno, enjoy things or something.
 
It seems that way. If you liked BvS (or any other movie that people think is a bad movie) your opinion on the movie has no value. But what if you liked BvS, X-Men Apocalypse and Civil War, Apocalypse Now is your favorite movie but also enjoy Adam Sandler's "movies"?

Then you might have a multiple personality disorder.
 
how is "expected plot" a point of criticism?

Eh, finding a movie predictable is a legitimate gripe. But from what I'm gathering he was not keen on the concept of the movie to begin with and came out and saw exactly what he expected. Generally, I think the buzz on SS is that it looks fun. At least that is what I'm expecting, not some work of art but a fun time at the movies. Really my only fear is the pacing, as that is a complaint I consistently hear in the reviews I've encountered, good or bad. It seems pretty straightforward, I think we're getting exactly what's being marketed to us.
 
Alright, well I think I am calling it a night. I will see you all in the morning for the shit storm. I leave you with this bit of what I've seen so far.

Early impressions for BvS were mostly positive. Early impressions for SS are pretty split. Take that as you will.

As a side note, critics saying something vague in a tweet immediately followed by "Take that as you will" is incredibly stupid. Just shut up and post your review when the embargo is up, ya mook.
 
Smith is a bigger fan of the UC than the TC but he still clearly thinks BvS is a broken movie. That's the impression I got anyway from what he said about it on Fatman on Batman.

In any case, Smith shouldn't be discounted just because he's easy to please.
 
Oh there was chemistry. Joker was solid, but again, its not his movie and rightfully so.

Also, reception has been what I expected. Fans enjoyed it, general audience who happened to score tickets to early previews enjoyed it as well for what it was. Its on the same level as Guardians of the Galaxy, complete with soundtrack. Enjoyable cast with some great acting at the right parts and its an all round good movie.

Go in with a level head and you'll be fine.

Whenever someone tells me to 'go in with X mindset' I'm nearly always suspicious. What's the alternative to seeing a movie 'with a level head'? Sounds more like an excuse than anything.
 
Whenever someone tells me to 'go in with X mindset' I'm nearly always suspicious. What's the alternative to seeing a movie 'with a level head'? Sounds more like an excuse than anything.

Hah, I had the same reaction.

It's like going into a Gaming side thread and reading that a game "runs fine".

Immediate red flags!
 
So, are we expecting "worst movie ever", "absolute trash" from critics and a 16% in that garbage site which has terrible, boring, forgettable movies such as Thor 1 or Avengers 2 with 70% and a movie with the exact same "problem" as BvS (Avengers 1) with 90%?

Yeah I'll keep ignoring that crap and feeling bad for people who give these "critics" enough credit to let them determine wether or not they should watch a movie. I'm glad I didn't give a shit because I liked Batman v Superman. Much better movie than overrated mediocrity like Guardians of the Galaxy, I tried very hard not to fall asleep through that. 91%, hahaha, fucking absurd. Putting the Marvel logo at the beginning gets you far these days.

The fact that Amazing Spider-Man 1 has a better score than the sequel alone should be enough to ignore the "tomatometer" altogether.
 
I'll go see it tonight, I'm nervous now, I hate BvS and I thought by the trailers that this movie could be a lot of fun, a real great movie from WB for once, I'm still hype though.
 
Well Kenn has risen to the top of Twitter with his fanboy baiting comments and gave it 3/10 for an Ayer film whose weakest film 'Street Kings' which was still pretty entertaining.

Maybe that is why people post outrageous things. It's bound to increase their digital prescience personally and professionally.

It works.

Hmm.
 
So, are we expecting "worst movie ever", "absolute trash" from critics and a 16% in that garbage site which has terrible, boring, forgettable movies such as Thor 1 or Avengers 2 with 70% and a movie with the exact same "problem" as BvS (Avengers 1) with 90%?

Yeah I'll keep ignoring that crap and feeling bad for people who give these "critics" enough credit to let them determine wether or not they should watch a movie. I'm glad I didn't give a shit because I liked Batman v Superman. Much better movie than overrated mediocrity like Guardians of the Galaxy, I tried very hard not to fall asleep through that. 91%, hahaha, fucking absurd. Putting the Marvel logo at the beginning gets you far these days.

The fact that Amazing Spider-Man 1 has a better score than the sequel alone should be enough to ignore the "tomatometer" altogether.

lol we got a badass over here fellas. Or should I say sheeple!
 
The fact that Amazing Spider-Man 1 has a better score than the sequel alone should be enough to ignore the "tomatometer" altogether.

i'm not a big fan of these tomato ratings either a lot of the time but wut. Amazing Spiderman 2 was one of the shittiest comic movies i've ever seen. It really made the first look more decent in retrospect sadly.
 
So, are we expecting "worst movie ever", "absolute trash" from critics and a 16% in that garbage site which has terrible, boring, forgettable movies such as Thor 1 or Avengers 2 with 70% and a movie with the exact same "problem" as BvS (Avengers 1) with 90%?

Yeah I'll keep ignoring that crap and feeling bad for people who give these "critics" enough credit to let them determine wether or not they should watch a movie. I'm glad I didn't give a shit because I liked Batman v Superman. Much better movie than overrated mediocrity like Guardians of the Galaxy, I tried very hard not to fall asleep through that. 91%, hahaha, fucking absurd. Putting the Marvel logo at the beginning gets you far these days.

The fact that Amazing Spider-Man 1 has a better score than the sequel alone should be enough to ignore the "tomatometer" altogether.
Someone defending Amazing Spider-Man 2...

Is that what it has come to?
 
Even the early reviews for BvS were positive. This movie having mixed reviews doesn't fill me with hope. I'm changing my RT prediction to 40%

Everybody on earth has heard about the critical response to BvS.

I think early critics are just being more careful and not giving in to hype.

Precisely to avoid the BvS fiasco.
 
What is with fan bases shitting on movie critics so much? They basically beg for critical affirmation that Favorite Franchise Movie #127 is good, but then lash out if the critics don't like it. Movie criticism isn't some brand new field, it has been around for decades. Yeah, there are mediocre critics. There are also people who have studied film and see hundreds of movies a year.

That doesn't mean you have take critical consensus as Heavenly Law but I'd take their opinions over some random who watches 3 movies a year and all of them are comic movies. Not to mention that Rotten Tomatoes scores are just the percentage that have a favorable view of it. A 91% doesn't mean that it is a 9/10 movie, just that 91% of the critics thought it was worth watching.
 
Oh don't worry, we'll be seeing plenty of them. Along other such deep, mature gems as "Fuck the haters/critics" and "At least its not safe/fun!"
Those are always from pretty edgy people. But seriously, critics are fine and its their job to be critical. Expecting anything else is silly.
Yeah.

I hope I don't see any more "go see it and judge for yourselves" comments.

But...how else would you make your mind up about it? A review isn't going to give you the entire movie's experience, so why not go see it for yourself to make up your mind?

What I'm trying to say from seeing the movie is don't go in expecting the greatest action comic movie to ever exist. What I got out of it was entertainment, which I gladly enjoyed.
 
Everybody on earth has heard about the critical response to BvS.

I think early critics are just being more careful and not giving in to hype.

Precisely to avoid the BvS fiasco.

Yeah, I think people are just being extra reserved this time around. Early impressions, especially from Twitter, tend to always be really positive, sometimes hyperbolically so.
 
Yeah, I think people are just being extra reserved this time around. Already impressions, especially from Twitter, tend to always be really positive, sometimes hyperbolically so.

Most early impressions are pure fanboi/antiboi trollism, IMO. Never trust early impressions until the embargo is over. Most of that stuff is vomited from Reddit, Twitter and other anonymous sources. There are some good sources as well, but they're rare (even GAF is sometimes way off and I find that funny. I wonder if some of the posters have even seen the movie).
 
lol we got a badass over here fellas. Or should I say sheeple!

Quality comment, thanks. I'm sure you're the first person to ever make that kind of joke.

i'm not a big fan of these tomato ratings either a lot of the time but wut. Amazing Spiderman 2 was one of the shittiest comic movies i've ever seen. It really made the first look more decent in retrospect sadly.

First movie was completely forgettable and unnecessary. Second one was unnecessary too because Spider-Man already had the best superhero movie ever -Dark Knight is not really a superhero movie-, but at least it had some character development and the action sequences were far better.

Those are always from pretty edgy people. But seriously, critics are fine and its their job to be critical. Expecting anything else is silly.

Their job is to be critical except when there's a Marvel logo apparently. Then, outright mediocre and boring movies like Avengers 2 or Iron Man 3 get 70%. Just because they have jokes in it I guess.

Yeah.

I hope I don't see any more "go see it and judge for yourselves" comments.

Yeah, how dare some people encourage other people to judge a film by themselves? Jesus.
 
At this point, i'm expecting poor to average reviews. 30% to 40% on RT. Of course wouldn't bother me or even deter me from seeing it as I don't care what critics say.
 
i'm not a big fan of these tomato ratings either a lot of the time but wut. Amazing Spiderman 2 was one of the shittiest comic movies i've ever seen. It really made the first look more decent in retrospect sadly.

Tomato rating is an indication of how large of a group might enjoy it. Not how great some of them think it is. It's a measure for one thing, not everything.
 
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