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[nynt9]

A games rating system goes from 0 (bad) - 5 (average) - 10 (great) for its time. If you're gonna rate games outside that this whole system falls apart and is meaningless.

You not understanding how score aggregation or reviewer score bias works or not understanding that the numbered scoring system is arbitrary isn't going to make the game be over average.

Just look at the score distribution in opencritic. Scores aren't distributed uniformly no matter what you think about them.

 

[Salty Rice]

"Its better than nothing."

Inafune is a hack fraud confirmed.

Spoiler

/s

 

[Patapwn]

Sounds like an Xbox equivalent to the recent ratchet and clank titles. Will def give it a shot. I want to support cheaper new games

Why you hatin' on R&C?

 

[Z3M0G]

What engine is this? It sounds like it could be a large part of the game's problems.

 

[Menitta]

What engine is this? It sounds like it could be a large part of the game's problems.

Unity

 

[Exploratory]

Microsoft's Knack confirmed.

 

[Salty Hippo]

i would buy it if not for the ridiculous pricing here in Brazil

Isn't it like 129? Could be worse.

 

[killroy87]

Microsoft's Knack confirmed.

Haha, there are worse fates

 

[Noobcraft]

Microsoft's Knack confirmed.

Let's not get crazy, it still looks better than Knack.

Spoiler

so far D:

 

[Reckheim]

Sounds like an Xbox equivalent to the recent ratchet and clank titles. Will def give it a shot. I want to support cheaper new games

the new R&C game scored a 85 on metacritic, I wouldn't call it an equivalent.

Edit: Its actually closer to knack (54) if anything.

 

[FDC1]

Edit: sorry wrong thread

 

[samuraidino]

Did a game site really say this was xboxs zelda?

Gamesradar did

 

[Piston Hyundai]

It's funny how on Metacritic etc the highest rated ones are from Xbox/Microsoft fan sites like ICXM, Xbox Achievements and Windows Central etc

Yeah, it happens with all of the big three. Stuff like NintendoWorldReport giving Federation Force a 9, and Playstation Lifestyle giving shit like Dead Nation a 10.

 

[scitek]

That Prismatic Core stuff at the end sounds an awful lot like the keys you have to find in the Metroid Prime series. What is their obsession with that?

 

[Triggerhappytel]

Reverse Midas touch

You know the Midas Touch was actually a bad thing, right?

 

[Dinjoralo]

Ouch. ReCore looked promising from what little I'd seen, but it seems to be just another game to throw on the pile. The start of the "Play Anywhere" lineup they announced back at E3 ain't very strong.

 

[kadotsu]

From reading the reviews it confirms my fear that this is more on the StarFox Adventures side of action adventure games.

 

[Tecnniqe]

You not understanding how score aggregation or reviewer score bias works or not understanding that the numbered scoring system is arbitrary isn't going to make the game be over average.

Just look at the score distribution in opencritic. Scores aren't distributed uniformly no matter what you think about them.

It's a stupid ass system and I merely use it as a quick look to see what the general population thinks.

A 5 is the rating average no matter how much you want to say otherwise.

You can say it's below average among the rest of the rated games, but it's still above average on a critics scale.

And if you want to push the fact we have a lot of great games and as such move the goal post for the average the scoring system needs to change.

Yes I'm fully aware the score system is fucked and games get 9 and 10s willy nilly

 

[novabolt]

After the high ratings SF5 at release got, I've been a bit wary of game reviews. I'll still buy this game but the sequel needs to go 1 of the other 6 studios MS has got because this game lacks that certain oomph.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

No, the whole curve is just skewed because quality control exists somewhat and publishers/developers try to release good content. Or rather, they try not to release bad content.

Well there's a twofold issue here.

One, top publishers/developers are trying to avoid bad content.

Two, reviewers are mostly reviewing those games. There is plenty of awful, complete dreck on Steam for example. If we added shit like that in, we might get a more normal distribution. Those aren't getting reviewed though.

It's a stupid ass system and I merely use it as a quick look to see what the general population thinks.

A 5 is the rating average no matter how much you want to say otherwise.

You can say it's below average among the rest of the rated games, but it's still above average on a critics scale.

And if you want to push the fact we have a lot of great games and as such move the goal post for the average the scoring system needs to change.

Yes I'm fully aware the score system is fucked and games get 9 and 10s willy nilly

A five may be the average game of all games released. But most people are not playing fives, because a lot of those get weeded out of the process.

 

[BuggeryBugz]

Disappointing scores but I'll still picky it up in a sale. It will scratch a platforming itch.

 

[jayu26]

those 2 example also give a hint you where you must focus on to have good review : presentation with not challenging /demanding gameplay ...(but poslish is also to blame here)

What the hell! You should check out Ratchet OT. There are so many posts mentioning that its harder than it looks. People who experienced Ratchet for the first time did it know what they were in for. Ratchet has always had a tight gameplay, that is why it's so beloved.

 

[Shin-Ra]

Mentionable occurrences of falling through the ground isn't the level of polish you expect from a first party game.

 

[prwxv3]

What were people expecting anyway. No expected the 85 MC R&C got no one close to its launch.

 

[kobu]

Did a game site really say this was xboxs zelda?

someone is always claiming some mediocre shit is like zelda

 

[digitalrelic]

It's a stupid ass system and I merely use it as a quick look to see what the general population thinks.

A 5 is the rating average no matter how much you want to say otherwise.

You can say it's below average among the rest of the rated games, but it's still above average on a critics scale.

And if you want to push the fact we have a lot of great games and as such move the goal post for the average the scoring system needs to change.

Yes I'm fully aware the score system is fucked and games get 9 and 10s willy nilly

What are you even arguing here? A 5 may be "average" in whatever weird hypothetical system you have made up in your mind, but in the real world a 5 is terrible and a 6.3 lands you in the bottom 25% of all games released.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

What were people expecting anyway. No expected the 85 MC R&C got no one close to its launch.

I really expected low 80s actually. I thought it would be janky, but memorable.

What are you even arguing here? A 5 may be "average" in whatever weird hypothetical system you have made up in your mind, but in the real world a 5 is terrible and a 6.3 lands you in the bottom 25% of all games released.

A point of clarification is needed here: a 6.3 lands you in the bottom 25% of all games reviewed. Not released.

 

[User 479360]

What's the consensus on length?

 

[Noobcraft]

What are you even arguing here? A 5 may be "average" in whatever weird hypothetical system you have made up in your mind, but in the real world a 5 is terrible and a 6.3 lands you in the bottom 25% of all games released.

Not released, but reviewed. Lots of titles never get reviewed and most of those are probably pretty bad, but never get counted.

 

[AnthonypUK]

Did a game site really say this was xboxs zelda?

So this year we have had Xboxes Last of Us and Xboxes Zelda, greatest games line up in xbox history for sure!

 

[Sydle]

Now it's clear why MS isn't putting any marketing muscle behind it.

I'm still going to play it, but I don't have high hopes for the PC version running well now.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Mentionable occurrences of falling through the ground isn't the level of polish you expect from a first party game.

I'm sure you will let us all know if it happens in Halo 6

 

[backflip10019]

Man, this is really disappointing. Guess I'll wait to pick this up until it's on sale.

 

[reKon]

What were people expecting anyway. No expected the 85 MC R&C got no one close to its launch.

Quality studios normally have quality output in their main titles. Shouldn't have surprised anyone at all. Even Insomniacs new IP, Sunset Overdrive did well and was probably a little underrrated too.

 

[Noobcraft]

Mentionable occurrences of falling through the ground isn't the level of polish you expect from a first party game.

Happened to me in Uncharted 2. Glitches happen in lots of first party titles across all platforms.

 

[novabolt]

someone is always claiming some mediocre shit is like zelda

Yeah, I remember people claiming Dark Cloud was Playstation's Zelda, lol.

 

[Toxi]

Very disappointed with how this sounds. The previews I saw of the game looked very charming.

 

[Tecnniqe]

What are you even arguing here? A 5 may be "average" in whatever weird hypothetical system you have made up in your mind, but in the real world a 5 is terrible and a 6.3 lands you in the bottom 25% of all games released.

I'm saying the industry's standard scale which have always been 0-10 is the norm and a such 5 is the average score.

I bet you're open critic scores would go down rapidly if they started reviewing steam trash, and as such it's fluctuating while the old ass system still works, as the rating is based on their time and makes the most sense.


A game getting 7 all across the board should not make it "average" as it would be above on the rating system they use.

 

[prwxv3]

Quality studios normally have quality output in their main titles. Shouldn't have surprised anyone at all. Even Insomniacs new IP, Sunset Overdrive did well and was probably a little underrrated too.

Many people expected a 70-80 range for R&C not the 80-90 it got.

 

[illmatic22]

Can't say I'm surprised

 

[BlackBuzzard]

Yeah, I remember people claiming Dark Cloud was Playstation's Zelda, lol.

Yeah there is only 1 Playstation's Zelda.

 

[Whompa02]

Welp I expected higher.

Not picking this one up.

 

[RichiRamjag]

I'm not sure why anyone was surprised. I was watching that one playthrough the other day and it was obviously a repetitive game. Shame about the other issues though.

What big first party title has come out for ps4 since bloodbornes?

Gravity Rush 2 and zero dawn look great but aren't coming out until December and February.

In the meantime Xbox has gears of war and forza horizon 3.

Have some class.

 

[SilentRob]

Yes I'm fully aware the score system is fucked and games get 9 and 10s willy nilly

They absolutely don't though. Look at how many games got those ratings during this console generation. There aren't a lot.

It just so happens that most games do not score a "5", which would be the middle-point of the scale but doesn't mean that it's automatically the average score. The average score is the average of all scores. Literally. Just because 5 is in the middle between 1 and 10 doesnt automatically make it the average.

This is a weird argument o0

 

[Jarmel]

Wow reviews are all over the place.

 

[March of the Crabs]

Still gonna get it. This looks lovably B-tier.

 

[reKon]

Many people expected a 70-80 range for R&C not the 80-90 it got.

Yeah and I'm pretty much saying that they should have not had expected that. All of Insomniacs main R&C games have reviewed very well. I don't know if it was the $40 that threw people off, but what we got was a full R&C game.

 

[Shin-Ra]

Happened to me in Uncharted 2. Glitches happen in lots of first party titles across all platforms.

I'm sure it did, but it wasn't common enough that you had multiple early-buyers pointing out they're falling through level geometry.

 

[JP]

A bit of shame to see a lot of those scores but they do seem to line up with what I was expecting form what I'd seen of the game.

 

[GHG]

Happened to me in Uncharted 2. Glitches happen in lots of first party titles across all platforms.

Glitches happen, sure, but it all depends on how frequent and widespread the issues are.