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Giant Bomb PSVR stream | It's always Summer in PlayStation VR Nation
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stump sock
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PodcastFips
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Why would he? Why don't you slow down?
So far there is a small amount of impressions with a 50/50 split of tracking impressions. Wait until the headset is out in the wild, and if the tracking issues thread blows up, we know what's up. Personally, I think it won't.
There is tracking issues but you have to admit none of the other streams had the extreme issues that GB did. The pulsing world in particular is something that no one could ignore or play through and it is highly visible in video. I have yet to see footage that has that.
It's pretty crazy that people are ignoring the fact the the issues GB had this morning have not been reproduced on video to the extent they had. Yes there is drifting a jittering but the world was literally breathing during the batman footage.
I don't think he's trying to discredit GB's issues. It's more that a lot of Gaffers here are quickly concluding that PSVR tracking is shit which it is not.
CassidyIzABeast
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Pif is putting in overtime right now.
Because it's not a correct info.
Yes, it's nowhere at the same level. That's why I said in the other thread that the real test will be when people will get their hands on the headsets and if they get sick or not. Or if there are faulty units, how many. If this will be passable, it won't be such a big issue.
AcademicSaucer
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What?
Me, you, us, we're consumers. If anything, people should err on the side of caution, and then jump in if the issues aren't widespread.
Not discrediting.
Just putting doomsayers in their place.
PSVR is having isolated issues, as the various faulty units and good unit streams are popping all over the place prove.
Some people are desperate to make others believe that PSVR is gonna be the janky mess we have seen in giantbombs hands on, and that's objectively false.
Gozer the Gozerian
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I heard Jeff Gerstmann is still bitter that former Giant Bomb intern MATT KESSLER left his Giant Bomb family in the dust on his way to the top of the Sony pyramid as SCEA Account Support Manager. Jeff has made it his personal mission to sabotage all Sony products ever since.
ScientificPizza
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I don't know that anyone is ignoring. But just because we haven't seen them reproduced doesn't mean that those issues didn't happen? Like what's the end goal here.
He's dispelling FUD, which seemed to have snowballed from this GB thread.
I really just hope that GB gets some new units so we get their opinions on fully working units. I really like their insights and this is really a damper on them since it's destroying Jeff's ability to even use the damn thing.
No but it suggests that GB may have a problem with their unit that the others don't and shouldn't be taken as a review of the product until they have a fully functioning unit. The fact that people are using this to shit on the PSVR in the face of more evidence showing it working closer to spec is frustrating.
stump sock
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It's okay bud, I think Sony's gonna pull through
Don't know about being eager. Maybe they are concerned that GB is the only thing that dictates some peoples purchasing habits when it should be more balanced in their opinion?
There are definitly people that don't care about the GB way of making entertainment but people should be able to calm down over time.
It's not FUD when it's recorded in the stream and the cause it's not yet fully proven. It's rather FUD to say "ignore what you see, there is no issue".
The Rift stream didn't seem to impact the Rift sales in any way, so I wouldn't worry about this.
What they should be concluding is all of this hardware is first generation and will have noticeable issues at times, from minor to major. My Vive has random controller tracking problems sometimes, and after the latest firmware update I started to get the world tilting effect as well and it was immediately discomforting.
To go around comparing videos and trying to prove who's right and who's not set up correctly is a fools errand, all of this stuff is YMMV and you should be prepared for wonky experiences at times going in despite the high price of entry. It just comes with the territory of being an early adopter.
ScientificPizza
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Okay buddy good work
I don't think we can make conclusions about faulty units until Sony says something officially or people start opening them up. It could 100% be setup
and I think it's too early to say that anything is objectively false. Right now a tiny number of units are out there, lets wait and see what happens when the headsets hit retail. if it is a technical issues it's almost impossible that it would only occur in this one headset
If there is a possibility that Sony have manufactured faulty units then that's something that the consumer should be very wary of
Critical reception is great, as evidenced by the reviews in the Review Thread, so yea they'll pull through well enough.
Here, check out streams by Game Informer, Gamespot, Jim Sterling and Kinda Funny, among others.
stump sock
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Thanks, I totally care about these things and appreciate the time you've taken to share them with me.
But it's not YMMV. In the case of the GB stream a consumer should immediately ask for a replacement unit. Their headset is not functioning like the other streams I have seen.
Absolutely. The GB stream was basically unplayable on several of those games. I was getting motion sickness from watching the footage. People who have preordered need to take into account the fact that they may have a defective unit and immediately get it replaced or returned if they notice the same problem.
forknknife
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Watching right now... 15 minutes in and it already looks like a disaster... shit
ScientificPizza
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didn't you know it's your responsibility to view each and every outlets coverage until your views match up with theirs?
SuperSonic1305
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I thought the point of these streams was to try all the games? They didn't even try half of what will be available.
stump sock
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because they don't have access to the games yet. can't play what you don't have.
Wait a minute.
So you just watched GBs coverage and called it a day?
Scientist Supreme!
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I don't know what your doing but it is funny.
Look, people are just giving their honest opinion to this stuff, it not all going to be positive. I also don't think people are coming into a giant bomb thread for other streams.
Come one dude be fair. Watching even one other stream immediately shows that GB was having unique problems. It's not opinion but fact that none of the other footage shows the extreme jittering and world breathing that GB was getting.
They were getting pretty sick on many of the games they really shouldn't have let Jeff keep going. But really they did all the ones they had access to that are going to do another stream next week I think.
Like many have said. We'll have a much clearer image of what's going on, once it reaches consumers.
Personally, I'm going to keep my preorder, if it's plagued by issues, then it's getting sent for a replacement. If that one doesn't work then it's refund time.
Personally, I'm going to keep my preorder, if it's plagued by issues, then it's getting sent for a replacement. If that one doesn't work then it's refund time.
Come on man. We can make a point without acting this way.
I'm slightly confused, do you mean to look for streams until you find one that matches up with what you already think or the more reasonable thinking of looking at multiple sources to compare different impressions against each other to get a better look at a product?
Tested (Norm and Jeremy) and Austin Walker have reported similar issues. Did they also get defective units? If so, Sony did a piss-poor job at giving out their pre-release units.
stump sock
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I know this is a tough concept, but follow me for a minute. This is a thread about a Giant Bomb stream, that I watched, because I wanted to see Giant Bomb play with PSVR. Mission accomplished.
N30RYU
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I know that other streammings aren't having any track issue... but if GiantBomb had issues more ppl could have them. So would be better if this get issued and we know if is something wrong with the setup, if some PSVR aren't working well or if the issue is with the camera revision.
These honest opinions seem rather uninformed if they're casting verdicts on VR hardware based on a single stream that was plagued with technical issues.
I don't know how else to put it, just saying to set expectations accordingly for new consumer technology that you'll immediately notice aspects that can and will be improved upon once you try it. There's really no point going back and forth on it now before it's in everyone's hands for an extended period of time, but wobble can be an issue even with a lighthouse setup. Tracking is hard.
I could understand that if it was one outlier. But I believe I heard several of them saying they also had units at home with the same issues, no? And they had two in the studio..
I have watched the tested footage. They talk about the inaccurate tracking and jittering but nothing about the world breathing around them and their footage doesn't have any evidence of it. I am not sure about Austin does he have any footage up?
stump sock
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it was the same units, but I mean, the odds of having two bad units sent to them seems... kind of low.
Oh, our mistake. Could you tell us about the PSVR you're obviously in possession of? You seem to be more informed than they are.
Well it should be in Sony's interest to get that done but things won't change within hours. Until release more people will have gotten more impressions and replacement units if necessary.
What games are still embargoed right now?
Quoting for the better good and posterior education of the masses on the PSVR No Tracking Issues topic. Watch those streams my boys.
Years and months of good hands-on impressions from past E3's and other events, even good working unit streams from today aren't enough to assure people on the headset's reliability.
The words that remain king are the negative impressions that a handful of individuals in the minority had.
What a shame gentleman. VR is the future, don't kill it in it's infancy. None of them.
Not really they sent out a bunch of units and only a few are having this issue. I mean hell Eurogamer said they reported it to Sony and got a new unit that was free of the issues. Having 3 outlets getting defective units is bad since consumers will probably get the same units but you are looking at what 5 or 6 units total out of however many they gave to everyone else. That doesn't mean we can't show other footage to give different weight to GB's footage.
PopcornMegaphone
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stump sock
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I formed my opinion of PSVR after having read many reviews and watching a ton of streams from different outlets all day, unlike a handful of people in this thread it would seem.
If that isn't being informed, then I don't know what to tell you.
You seem like you're in the know on all things PSVR. Do you happen to have an ETA on when more headsets will be available?
It worked in most cases, but the drift was heavily pronounced and didn't fix the forward/back motion seen in the stream.
Yeah all it did was recenter the screen for them. They were having problems with the system not stabilizing the movement around them. It kept seeing the headset and controller swaying drastically.
I wish I don't even have the money to buy one.