United States Election: Nov. 8, 2016 |OT| Hate Trumps Love

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Box of Kittens said:
Here are the battleground states with abbreviations (to match them up with the map in the OP) and closing times. These categories are somewhat arbitrary and you could shift several into other categories or even take a couple off the board or maybe put one or two others on depending on if you want to be aggressive or conservative. The times I have listed are when the final polls close in each state. It can take a long time to count results after that, so be patient.

The major battlegrounds:

Ohio (OH) - 7:30 EST/12:30 UTC.

North Carolina (NC) - 7:30 EST/12:30 UTC

Florida (FL) - 8:00 EST/1:00 UTC. Most polls will close an hour before but there will be no calls until after the final poll closings.

New Hampshire (NH) - 8:00 EST/1:00 UTC. Again some polls will close earlier. There are even one or two small towns (I mean really small, like 50 or so people combined) who have a tradition of voting at midnight and reporting their results immediately, so the first incredibly early (and incredibly meaningless) returns will come in a little after 5:00 AM UTC.

Nevada (NV) - 10:00 EST/3:00 UTC. Polls indicate a very close race, but the demographics and partisan composition of the early vote look good for Clinton.

States where a Trump victory likely indicates bad news for Clinton:

Virginia (VA) - 7:00 EST/12:00 UTC. Beware that this takes a long time to call usually because the Democratic strongholds in Northern Virginia take a long time to count. Early returns will likely show Trump with a nominal lead with Clinton surging ahead later.

Pennsylvania (PA) - 8:00 EST/1:00 UTC

Maine (ME) - 8:00 EST/1:00 UTC. Maine shouldn't be that competitive, but they do have a provision for splitting their electoral votes by congressional district. Long story short, Trump is unlikely to win but could win one of its four electoral votes.

Michigan (MI) - 9:00 EST/2:00 UTC. Actually almost all the polls will have closed an hour earlier so we may have an idea how it's going before that. Only a few rural areas wait until 9:00.

Wisconsin (WI) - 9:00 EST/2:00 UTC

Colorado (CO) - 9:00 EST/2:00 UTC

States where a Clinton victory likely indicates bad news for Trump:

Georgia (GA) - 7:00 EST/12:00 UTC

Arizona (AZ) - 9:00 EST/2:00 UTC

Nebraska (NE) - 9:00 EST/2:00 UTC - Like Maine, this isn't really contested but has provisions for splitting its electoral votes by congressional district, and Clinton has a shot at taking one of its five votes.

Iowa (IA) - 10:00 EST/3:00 UTC

Utah (UT) - 10:00 EST/3:00 UTC - This is an unusual case. Utah is one of the most Republican states in the country but Trump is unappealing to the largely Mormon population. Evan McMullin, a Republican running as an independent, has been polling strongly and could take the state or take enough Republican votes to give Clinton the victory.

Any other results would be pretty big surprises. If, say, Clinton wins Missouri (MO) or Texas (TX) or Trump wins Minnesota (MN) or Oregon (OR), that's probably the election right there barring some wacky results elsewhere.

Note that if Trump wins every state he's supposed to (including the ones like GA or AZ that I listed) and wins every major battleground, that gets him to a 269-269 tie (which would probably be resolved in his favor by the House of Representatives but that's a whole story of its own). Add in the one vote from Maine or any state from the "Clinton should win list" like VA or PA then he wins. But the long story short is that Clinton has many paths to victory and Trump has few. If she wins even one of the major battlegrounds then Trump needs to pull off an upset elsewhere.
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thanks for the info!
 
BlastProcessing said:
Ideally we need to move away from a voting day at all. We need nice long voting periods with plenty of access for everyone.
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Is there no postal vote in every state? But don't buy the envelopes from us. ;-)

Austrians had to postpone their presidential election by two months because the German envelopes have not glued correctly.
 
Green Yoshi said:
Is there no postal vote in every state? But don't buy the envelopes from us. ;-)

Austrians had to postpone their presidential election by two months because the German envelopes have not glued correctly.
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Every state sets its own rules on voting, within certain limits. I used to live in Indiana, where you can only vote by mail if you have an excuse, such as being out of the county or being scheduled to work the entire time the polls are open. In Illinois, where I now live, you can vote by mail so long as you are a registered voter. The state Democratic Party even sent my wife and I forms to fill out to request a ballot without us asking. In some states, such as Oregon, voting by mail is essentially the default.

Essentially a US presidential election is not so much an election as it is fifty-one separate elections, each run in its own way.
And we aren't even really electing the president. We're electing a body whose sole function is to elect the president and vice-president. US politics are weird.
 
Any major news outlets going to stream the results? I wanted to sub to ps vue but they dont like where I live for some reason :/

May just have to get an hd antenna...
 
Green Yoshi said:
It would not surprise me if many people think that way. So you don't feel responsible if one of them gets elected.
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I don't get that mindset. I have a great many criticisms of Hillary (that said a lot of what's floating out there about her is ridiculously inaccurate) but I'd be happy to know I contributed to preventing a fascist dictator in the making from obtaining power.

Not to mention my own rights and many of my friends/fellow humans rights are on the line if Trump were to become president.
 
To keep the Democratic turnout numbers trending upward, President Barack Obama planned a rally in Hispanic-heavy Kissimmee in Central Florida on Sunday, the final day of in-person early voting. Kissimmee is in one the biggest counties in Florida. Republicans and Democrats attribute some of the late surge in Democratic ballots to Obama’s recent trips to the state.

“As of last Tuesday, I thought Trump would win Florida. Then Obama showed up,” said one Florida Republican consultant who supports Trump but didn’t want to go on record doubting the Republican’s chances. “A lot changed when that blue plane landed in Florida.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/florida-early-voting-230841#ixzz4PH9Ai7NW
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So safe states are still safe. OK

I'm still worried about OH and FL mostly, I guess. :\

PA is safe too, right? Trump can't win without PA I think. Right?
 
Morrigan Stark said:
So safe states are still safe. OK

I'm still worried about OH and FL mostly, I guess. :\

PA is safe too, right? Trump can't win without PA I think. Right?
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Trump's not winning Pennsylvania.

Ohio is going to be very close. Florida will probably be close too, though I think she still wins there and ends this election early.
 
Wow at those Virginia numbers.

I know it won't hold up on Election Day, but it's crazy to me as a (nearly) lifelong resident how quickly we've shifted blue, and by how much.
 
Snarfington said:
Heard multiple of my friends in the US not going to vote because "they're both terrible". They're not even going to vote down the ticket, can't be convinced. Just silly. I hope there aren't too many people doing this, it's too important not to do your part either way.
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Why can't they acknowledge both are terrible and still vote for the lesser evil? What happened to the good old days of pragmatism...
 
Snarfington said:
Heard multiple of my friends in the US not going to vote because "they're both terrible". They're not even going to vote down the ticket, can't be convinced. Just silly. I hope there aren't too many people doing this, it's too important not to do your part either way.
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The day you realize your friends are not very smart...
 
ryseing said:
Hillary's doing a rally at my school tomorrow @ midnight. Worth going?
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She's in Raleigh tomorrow, so NC State I presume? I think Trump is in town tomorrow too so I'm glad I'll be working from home. Traffic will suck ass.

I did my part here in NC to try and turn it Blue and also oust that fuck McCrory, but latest polls have both Trump and McCrory in the lead here, though by thin margins.

C'mon, NC... I don't know if I can deal with 4 more years of McCrory. Good Lord he's been a complete disaster for this state.
 
PAULINK said:
Any major news outlets going to stream the results? I wanted to sub to ps vue but they dont like where I live for some reason :/

May just have to get an hd antenna...
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All of them.

NBC, PBS, and Bloomberg will be available on YouTube once polls close. ABC News, NYT, WaPo will be on facebook. CNN will be free on their site and apps for 12 hours a few hours before polls close. CBS News will have all day coverage on their site and apps. You shouldn't have any trouble finding a stream come election night.


http://variety.com/2016/digital/new...e-tv-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-1201909896/
 
Aaron Strife said:
No, it just means PPP is a Dem-affiliated firm.
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This makes sense, lots of good news and numbers I want to see on the rest of their twitter feed. I hope it's more steeped in numbers than partisan guesses, it might give me a little chill to get through the next two days...
 
Otnopolit said:
This makes sense, lots of good news and numbers I want to see on the rest of their twitter feed. I hope it's more steeped in numbers than partisan guesses, it might give me a little chill to get through the next two days...
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PPP has been a pretty accurate pollster in the past. Some people think their Dem affiliation makes them biased but it really hasn't been a problem before.
 
That +21 for Hillary Michigan "early voting" number (if even remotely true) is wild because Michigan...doesn't have real early voting. At all.

We have excused absentee only, so like... it's not the general population who can do it. it's overseas military and Michigan residents who are currently somewhere else and old people who have trouble getting to the polls, etc. Not a dem-friendly group at all.

So I'm skeptical of the +21 but like....not complaining.
 
Exterminieren said:
Please don't cock this up, guys. The world would be a much, much worse place if Trump were to win.
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You have no idea how much worse it can be with clinton huh? lol.

Well good luck rest of the world, you're going to lose either way on this one it sounds, just like how Americans are about to.
 
J-Rzez said:
You have no idea how much worse it can be with clinton huh? lol.

Well good luck rest of the world, you're going to lose either way on this one it sounds, just like how Americans are about to.
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This is such a lazy, and baseless, argument.

Clinton will at minimum have a stable presidency. She has the potential to get shit done, as well.

A Trump win is a win for hate, xenophobia, irrationality, and the worst of our base instincts. Comparing the two results is disengenuous at the low end and and dangerous at the high end.
 
J-Rzez said:
You have no idea how much worse it can be with clinton huh? lol.

Well good luck rest of the world, you're going to lose either way on this one it sounds, just like how Americans are about to.
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Normally I would say I laugh at this kind of statement as a minority but with how often it's repeated at this point: I can't deal with it. Hillary has her problems but she isn't a fucking fascist. Her party doesn't support literal fucking torture of LGBT Americans. Etc. etc. etc.
Hillary may represent status-quo at her worst (which I dislike, mind you) but it's better than literally anything the Republicans will ever offer up.
 
Killthee said:
All of them.

NBC, PBS, and Bloomberg will be available on YouTube once polls close. ABC News, NYT, WaPo will be on facebook. CNN will be free on their site and apps for 12 hours a few hours before polls close. CBS News will have all day coverage on their site and apps. You shouldn't have any trouble finding a stream come election night.


http://variety.com/2016/digital/new...e-tv-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-1201909896/
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Thanks for the responses, guess I don't need to shell out for an hd antenna, yet.
 
As a Canadian, I can tell you that you don't want a Harper++ Government.

I wish you guys the best, but I'm sure we all know who is going to win the election at this point.
 
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