Yeah. She can lose Iowa, Florida, Ohio, North Carolina and New Mexico and still win on the back of Nevada and Colorado. Trump is boned if he loses NV. And he's already lost it.
We'll know. Only question is whether Trump will concede.
United States Election: Nov. 8, 2016 |OT| Hate Trumps Love
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Yeah. She can lose Iowa, Florida, Ohio, North Carolina and New Mexico and still win on the back of Nevada and Colorado. Trump is boned if he loses NV. And he's already lost it.
We'll know. Only question is whether Trump will concede.
We will most likely know towards the end of the day on November 8th. Barring any recounts or issues that may arise.
BlastProcessing
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It will most likely be called the minute polls close on the west coast.
Shambalakan
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Yep, only reason I'm keeping some around is for the election day meltdowns. And if they act a fool I will show no mercy.
Mailenstein
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Really looking forward to the Alex Jones meltdown. 😂
I don't think this is like Brexit but as someone who had the 'can't wait to hear Leavers meltdown' attitude the post-referendum blues hit me pretty hard.
I really hope you guys' confidence is rewarded but Wednesday is going to be a really bad day for you if things don't go your way.
I just have a really bad feeling about this.
I really hope you guys' confidence is rewarded but Wednesday is going to be a really bad day for you if things don't go your way.
I just have a really bad feeling about this.
The election should be called at 11PM EST.
Unless something goes wrong. Or Trump refuses to concede and orders his supporters into the streets.
Scofield94941
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whenever you have a bad feeling, think about all the latino's, african american, muslim ,and women voters out there. People are motivated on both sides, but on our side.. we have the numbers
Mailenstein
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I'm not American and not living there so therefor not really invested into this. It is very interesting to watch the whole thing unfold from a distance tho. Tbh, both choices are horrible. Trump is an straight up asshole, but Hillary is playing the whole country in a different way. Long story short, I just wanna see Alex Jones go Super Saiyan crazy.
jim-jam bongs
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So who is making the Trump Downfall bunker scene edit?
Traditionally, 11pm is correct (this is when the west coast polls close).
However, because California is locked in for Clinton... if she wins both NC and FL then the election can actually be called this year at 9pm EST.
Everything in gray literally won't matter. Trump can win all of that and will still lose.
http://www.270towin.com/maps/y2zYR
Please explain how Hillary is a 'horrible' choice.
CMojicaAce
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I got to say, even as someone from outside the US, I'm really nervous when it comes to this election. I hope and want Hillary to win, but I can't help but think that Trump will get a massive surge on election day and win the entire thing.
I hope of course that I'm wrong, and Hillary wins this election comfortably.
I hope of course that I'm wrong, and Hillary wins this election comfortably.
jim-jam bongs
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Considering how following this election obsessively has chewed up all my free time I'd go with "Make NeoGAF Game Again"
LiquidSolid
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"Trump's the worst but Hillary's totally playing the whole country. How she's doing that, I don't know and I don't even have a lick of proof of it, but she IS because reasons." Uh huh. Maybe instead of believing every random accusation you hear, you should educate yourself.
I can't wait until this is over. Best of luck, Americans.
uncelestial
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Tried being "realistically pessimistic" in my prediction and still, Hillary wins by 20EVs.
Fingers crossed that the win is decisive enough to put this all behind us and there aren't riots, contests, legal challenges, or worse.
Fingers crossed that the win is decisive enough to put this all behind us and there aren't riots, contests, legal challenges, or worse.
Iowa is basically a certain flip to Trump as well, he's gotten polls in his favor outside the margin of error last couple weeks. But other than that this is the MOST likely outcome.
Aaronology
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This election has slowly transformed the otherwise innocuous and mundane word "both" into one of my most hated terms in the English language. It almost triggers me now. This is where I ask you to elaborate on how Clinton is "playing the whole country" and where you subsequently reply, if at all, with unsubstantiated hogwash and/or feels.
Black Republican
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Taco truck Tuesday?😍
My best friend is a racist, homophobe, transphobe, gun-nut, maybe misogynistic, maybe pro-war minority.
The person I look up to the most in my house hold called Martin Luther King Day "Nigger Day".
I saw and heard my mom say "faggots" for the first time this Halloween.
I think I heard my little cousin respond to a joke about putting chicken into the bags of black children on the same night.
People who personally surround me and grew up with are, overall, somewhat educated and varied and yet...
A very charming airtsoft store owner is aware of the tribulations of latio Americans yet doesn't believe in the cries of blacks.
And I live in a blue state.
The (southern) straight, white, (uneducated) male maybe the easiest target but like the KKK, bigotry is everywhere and can be anyone regardless of background. Having a good education means shit when they look at the same evidence and come up with a different conclusion just to justify their bullshit beliefs. It's going to take more then enlightenment to fight this and the second worst-case scenario is that it will simply take swaths of deathbeds to make progress which then leads to one wondering: How many disfranchised will have to die before we get there?
I'd like to believe what I'm experiencing is minorities within minorities and just living in a city brimming with those who lack critical thinking skills when it comes to figuring out a world that is beyond theirs but......I don't know anymore. I thought too showing the light was the way but then Trump changed all that.
I dont understand why people think both are bad candidates.I have friends that have been saying both are bad candidates and I question them but they dont have an answer its just "she's just as bad" (im from the UK btw)
its ridiculous.
shes has issues but i think the good far outweighs the bad in clinton's case.
Crossing Eden
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Yea I tend to say stupid shit when I don't wanna use critical thinking too. Oh wait, no I don't, because that's not how being an adult works. Fucking hell, these kiddies need get out and VOTE instead of whining about this "both sides" bullshit. As if they've done ANY reading whatsofuckingever about each candidate's policy, (news flash, one has non-existent policy since he based his entire campaign on fearmongering, xenophobia, racism, fascism, sexism, and misogyny and speaks like a 5th grader who got a 500 word essay assignment and didn't bother to read the book).
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You know they wouldn't make that call until the polls closed though. The color commentary would be treating it as a sure thing, but the official call wouldn't be until 11 est.Traditionally, 11pm is correct (this is when the west coast polls close).
However, because California is locked in for Clinton... if she wins both NC and FL then the election can actually be called this year at 9pm EST.
Everything in gray literally won't matter. Trump can win all of that and will still lose.
I was actually watching some 92 election night videos (NERD) and one of the big things that came up was people on the West Coast were upset by how early the calls were made in 88 and other elections and it made them feel like their votes didn't matter. Ron Wyden (then-Congressman, now Senator of Oregon) was making the case for waiting a bit to make calls and even passing a law to close polls in all 50 states at the same time.
obin_gam
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Traditionally, 11pm is correct (this is when the west coast polls close).
However, because California is locked in for Clinton... if she wins both NC and FL then the election can actually be called this year at 9pm EST.
Everything in gray literally won't matter. Trump can win all of that and will still lose.
don't play with my emotions like this.
In every election I can never get over the fact that some states matter more than others when it comes to who is going to become president. The fact that you have people telling others to get out and vote, when depending on where you live your vote doesn't even matter, is kind of ridiculous. Look at the map Korey posted for example, almost half of the US is grey because it doesn't matter who wins those states. They mean nothing. Those people have no say in who becomes president at all and to say otherwise is foolish.
I understand why the electoral college exists, but that doesn't mean that it should. When it comes to the president, every state's vote should be equal so that every person has an equal say in who becomes president. I know that the rebuttal to this will be that states with higher populations should have a larger say, but that's just it, they still would because of the sheer amount of people in those states. You would still have states that nominees campaigned in more because of their populations, but votes wouldn't mean more just because of where you lived.
You can go through a lot of threads about the election and see people who say that they aren't voting because they live in a state where their vote doesn't matter. That shouldn't be a thing that happens. People should never feel like their vote doesn't matter.
I understand why the electoral college exists, but that doesn't mean that it should. When it comes to the president, every state's vote should be equal so that every person has an equal say in who becomes president. I know that the rebuttal to this will be that states with higher populations should have a larger say, but that's just it, they still would because of the sheer amount of people in those states. You would still have states that nominees campaigned in more because of their populations, but votes wouldn't mean more just because of where you lived.
You can go through a lot of threads about the election and see people who say that they aren't voting because they live in a state where their vote doesn't matter. That shouldn't be a thing that happens. People should never feel like their vote doesn't matter.
PeakPointMatrix
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Were Florida and Texas still in play?
Thing is, though, even if you think a vote is inconsequential for president, there's many other votes which you could sway - Senate, House, Judges, Props. In the UK, you vote for an MP and that's that. In the US, Floridians (for example) are voting for President, Senate, House of Representatives, and at least one Proposition about solar power funding. Judges too, I think. In a very real way, those votes are more powerful than the vote you have for President. Voting for Kander as Senator (in Missouri, I think it is) would help push the Democrats to winning the Senate, which means the block over SCOTUS would be removed. That's a powerful vote the people there have, even if their state isn't a battleground.
The US should promote that fact more. Here's an ad starring Martin Sheen that does it pretty well.
The US should promote that fact more. Here's an ad starring Martin Sheen that does it pretty well.
The map is misleading because it's just how time zones work.
The only states that "matter" are the swing states: Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, etc.
While California has the most votes, each Californian's vote actually has the least weight out of all 51 states. So each individual Californian has the least power in deciding the next President, while much smaller states have more power because they get more electoral votes per person. That doesn't change the fact that their state is still small, however.
Arizona has the most. https://wallethub.com/edu/how-much-is-your-vote-worth/7932/
jellies_two
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Poor Janet reno she must have decided she didn't want to watch this one play out 
the only system in which everyone's votes "matters" is a simple popular vote, in which, again, candidates would flock to the states with higher population
an easy fix without requiring a huge ammendment would be if more states join the national popular vote interstate compact, where electoral votes are assigned to the winner of the popular vote nationally, but dunno if the incentives are there for more states to join
SchrodingerC
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You can't count on Texas until like, 20 years from now.
This election has been very interesting to follow from outside of the US. From a political standpoint, I'm not a fan of neither one of them. But one is an idiot (to put it VERY mildly) and the other is a politician. So please don't vote for an idiot as president.
I must admit though that a small part of me want Trump to win, you know the "some men just want to watch the world burn" part.
I must admit though that a small part of me want Trump to win, you know the "some men just want to watch the world burn" part.
Black Republican
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So after tommorow, Obama uses executive powers to stay for a 3rd term then Inducts Michelle Obama to the Supreme court, right?
The electoral college actually makes more states matter. Nobody would campaign in Maine, New Hampshire, Nebraska or even states like Wisconsin otherwise.
esmith08734
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What an interesting election, honestly. Please steamroll, HRC.
Green Yoshi
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I wonder who will run against Hillary in 2020. David Duke? Moderate candidates as John Kasich don't seem to have a chance.
Well, I would probably put it more as my inner troll. But yes sociopath isn't that far off.
Only from people that don't give a fuck about politics.
I would say almost everyone still knows the difference between Hilary and the piece of shit Trump is.
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