United States Election: Nov. 8, 2016 |OT| Hate Trumps Love

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robochimp said:
Things are topping out for Trump in WI, gap is narrowing and that is without additional reporting from Dane and Milwaukee. I predict Hillary by 30,000 in WI.
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Yeah. There's still some decent change the PA/MI/WI firewall holds. It's not over yet. But it is looking pretty terrible. WI is definitely the weakest of the three right now. I'd actually put money on MI Clinton as it stands right now.
 
Hitman said:
How many of Trump's promises is he going to follow through on now? I'd bet probably less than 80%. How many Americans will care? I bet probably close to none.

Which bet would I put my money on? The second one.
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He will have a rubber stamp congress and supreme court, he will be able to get away with a ton of it.
 
Kathian said:
I do wonder how Clinton plays this. I mean theres going to be some anger and shes basically had a campaign based on "trust me! I got this!" and its not worked out.
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That's what her fanbase has told me this entire time. In fact I often saw people chased out for asking for assurance. (Hell one thread had a poster say go shit yourself somewhere else). Why did it play this way?
 
Is there... Is there any chance that something happens? Like getting disqualified because of something I don't even know. I haven't eaten in hours and I want to go get something to eat but I just... Just feel so horrible right now and I just don't even know what to do anymore... I don't... What's the point.
 
 
Here's to the next 4 years:

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Last post, I swear.

I think this book is going to be essential reading for liberals the next four years.

The Democratic Party has to figure the white working voter issue out.
 
Veitsev said:
ACA is dead. People with pre existing condition will now not get healthcare. Don't have money? Tough shit. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps, if you can even stand up. Potential for Medicare to be turned into a voucher program.

Immigration reform is dead. Some form of increased border presence will absolutely happen. Even if it is just an expensive ineffectual wall. Deportations of some measure will happen. Anti-immigrant sentiment will become more accepted and normalized. If you are hispanic you are going to have a rough time. Muslim? Good luck.

Conservative SC for a generation or more. Expect to see more rulings in the vein of Citizens United. Corporations will be cemented as people and they have more money and power than you. Oh and forget about restoring the VRA. Voter suppression of minorities will continue throughout the country. Gay marriage is probably unlikely to be affected but negative rulings against transgender rights may be common place at least at the state level. Republican gerrymandering will continue further cementing control across the country.

Foreign policy wise expect the US to get more heavily entangled in the middle east and a George W. Bush level x 100 of general disrespect toward our allies. Also expect to see a level of nationalist fervor unprecedented in American politics. Putin will be given free reign. We will also see unnecessary and potentially massive increases in military spending. Potential is also here for American forces to support goals that more align with Putin's than the overall wishes of NATO. Any hopes for "small" government will be eradicated by money thrown away in foreign entanglements.

As for the economy Trump is not going to help working class people in places like Michigan. Their jobs are not coming back. The Republican party will not spend the money necessary to help them retrain and enter new fields. Creating a green manufacturing industry was one possible way for this happen. It won't. Trump believes global warming is a conspiracy created by the Chinese.

Taxes will be cut drastically for the 1%. This will further exacerbate the divide between the rich and poor. There will not be an increase in the minimum wage. Government will continue to subsidize the wages of companies like Walmart with food stamps, medicaid and other welfare programs. The people that voted Trump will be the ones most affected by this and they will just blame minorities. Many will also now go without healthcare as the ACA will be destroyed, leaving those that qualified for medicaid or subsidized care without options. They will just blame minorities and many will blame Obamacare long after its dead.

As far as the American political climate Trump's election will make the white nationalist candidate commonplace. You will see many mini-Trumps at the state level across the nation. Qualifications for office like experience in law or politics on some level will now be considered as not required. Celebrities will more likely to run and more likely to win. The American people will reward Republicans for a functioning government not caring that the only reason it is functioning is that Republicans are in full control and no longer obstructing everything.

Following this in 2020 America will re-elect Donald Trump
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With a heavy heart.
 
We've gotten to the point in this thread that people are actually going back in the thread to find people who say something that somebody might assume means they support Trump just to shame them? Come on...

The DNC needs to take a hard look in the mirror today. Stop taking certain demographics votes for granted
 
Citizen_Insane said:
If you're a white male, life's gonna be good.

It's the rest of us that are gonna suffer.
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I'm a white male and I want to fucking punch white males in the face right now. And I don't think I will be ok, my own privelege aside. Anything that makes the world worse is worse for the world, and it always comes around for every single person.
 
TissueBox said:
Watchin' Giulani on NBC lol. This guy...

Either way. Never underestimate desperation. Regardless of where this takes us, promises never reflect certainty...this has been proven negatively innumerable times in the past. America was at a desperate point and got pushed.

A Republican congress ain't going to look so hot for any non-Republican hope in that regard though. But now the future awaits!
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Giulani, Crhis Christie, and the rest of Trumps buddy's are all snakes man, snakes.
 
BrutishMrFish said:
Which is absolutely impossible when the side that needs to be changed isn't interested in facts.
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They think they're the party of facts though. That's where the education comes into play.

It's not impossible. People vote republican for many different reasons. Yes, hated, racism and bigotry are some of them. But not all of them, and I imagine not even most. Most republican voters lean that way because they're simply ignorant. I voted for Bush in my first election because my dad was and I didn't know any better. When you're quick to attack and vilify someone like that you just cause them to dig their heals in, when you may have been able to convert them.

We need to stop all the divisiveness. Unity is the only way.
 
Media said:
I just realized that with a total red landslide, Obamacare is going to be repealed. With means my excellent employer insurance will drop me due to preexisting conditions. And I won't be able to afford the medicines that keep me alive.

I'm going to suffer and die. Thanks, everyone who voted third party. Thanks.
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Employers, thankfully for you, generally can find a way to cover you despite preexisting conditions. It's how my parents were able to remain covered pre-ACA right up until they both retired.

I also don't think a full repeal of the ACA is a sure thing; there are still a lot of barriers to get past, despite the stated goal. And even if it does happen, I would bet on the preexisting condition fix remaining intact; it is universally popular and it would be political suicide to oppose it.
 
I feel so bad for my daughter. I can't stomach the thought of her thinking he's a normal president. I'm on the verge of vomiting.
 
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