Buying a 4K TV for PS4K thread!

family_guy said:
They all do. I returned two to finally get a good one. That's why I wouldn't bother with online shopping unless it's from Amazon.
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Best Buy is good too if you do delivery

I had a TV with some light spots, and they picked up the bad one when they brought a new one in just a couple days. They set the second one up and made sure it worked.

(Elite Plus member, don't know if that makes a difference)
 
MastAndo said:
I'm all for saving a few bucks, but I would have to agree with this. If it's an online retailer, make sure they won't make your life difficult when it comes to returning a big, expensive item like a TV.

I've currently got one broken 55KS8000 boxed up, sitting in my apartment waiting for FedEx to pick up and return to Samsung, another in transit back to Samsung after I refused delivery since they shipped it despite my order cancellation, and a fully functioning set from PC Richard. I paid the full $1000 for it from PC Richard, whereas the others were EPP, but they brought it to my place the next day after ordering and would have taken it off my hands right there if it was broken. This peace of mind of avoiding hassles goes a long way.
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Yea that's what I'm worried about getting a broken tv. I've read on slickdeals about folks getting broken tvs shipped to them.

It would suck and definitely change my mood @family_guy. Hoping for the best.
 
So the 8500 is pretty much identical to the 8000 right? Because i am about to pull the trigger right now in best buy because it's on sale and they don't have the 8000 series in 55" and i really dig this curve.
 
styl3s said:
So the 8500 is pretty much identical to the 8000 right? Because i am about to pull the trigger right now in best buy because it's on sale and they don't have the 8000 series in 55" and i really dig this curve.
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yep, it's just the curved screen model of the same TV
 
Not trying to "defend" my purchase I swear (lol), but this review seems a lot more positive on the KU6300's HDR capabilities than RTINGS, although it still acknowledges that the TV is limited in this regard:

http://4k.com/tv/samsung-ku6300-rev...-un60ku6300-un55ku6300-un50ku6300-un40ku6300/

Key portions of the review about HDR on the KU6300:

Additionally, we should mention that we really like the HDR technology in this TV. It’s not the premium caliber of HDR that you’ll find in Samsung’s SUHD TVs or Vizio’s excellent P-Series models but it still delivers a superior viewing experience that is notably better than what you’ll see in any normal SDR 4K TV on the market. Peak brightness and black level are both rich enough to deliver the sort of dynamic range that stands out with its quality to the naked eye and Samsung additions like Ultra Clear Panel, which works to reduce glare in the KU6300’s screen further augment the quality of this TVs somewhat limited HDR capabilities.
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First of all, there is the lack of full high dynamic range technology in the entire KU-Series TV range. Like the KU7500, KU7000 and KU6500, the KU6300 comes with HDR but in a much more loosely defined sense of the technology. None of these TVs offer high dynamic range that matches the quality defined either by HDR10 standards from the UHD Alliance or by Dolby’s Dolby Vision rubric. Furthermore, none of these 4K TVs offer Wide Color Gamut technology and as a result, their overall value is reduced slightly. In the case of the KU6300, this is mitigated by the fact that this is a really affordable 4K TV in all of its size ranges but it would have been nice to see a more robust caliber of HDR installed in 2016 4K TVs like these.
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HDR Premium: Once again, the KU6300 doesn’t offer the same full range of 4K high dynamic technology as its 2016 SUHD cousins with their compatibility to HDR10 standards. This means that the TV doesn’t deliver the peak luminance of 1100 nits or more and same Wide Color Gamut as those top-shelf 4K HDR TV models do. Furthermore, its color coverage doesn’t offer quite the same realistic richness we’ve seen in models like the KS9500 2016 HDR television. However, the KU6300, like the KU6500, does come with HDR Premium capacity and this does offer up a level of dynamic range that’s at least comparable to high dynamic range as we’ve seen it in some 2015 4K TV models with this technology. It’s not the best in HDR that you’ll find in the KU6300 but the TV still delivers a range of contrast that’s better than what you’ll find in the vast majority of SDR 4K TVs.
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The HDR in this model may not be of the same caliber as that we’ve seen in the other TVs linked to above but it still delivers superb contrast at over 3,200:1, fairly decent peak brightness at 480 nits and black levels that go below the 0.05 nits stipulated for HDR10 compliance. Furthermore, the overall black uniformity of the display is great, with no blooming we could see and little in the way of light bleed for an LCD TV, though activating local dimming in the KU6300 does sharply reduce black level depth in darker parts of the screen. Colors also look very good even if they don’t come with the twin augmentations of Quantum Dot color and Wide color Gamut for HDR standards that we’ve seen in the SUHD TVs.

To explain a little better on these color differences, 10-bit Wide Color Gamut for high dynamic range is what’s necessary for full HDR10 certification for the “Ultra HD Premium” label from the UHD Alliance, and the inclusion of this color means over 1 billion color values and 1024 Red, Green, Blue (RGB) color variations. This essentially means that the KU6300 can’t produce the deeply smooth and varied color gradients or 90%+ Digital cinema level DCI-93 color space coverage we saw in other full HDR TVs like the 2016 Vizio P-Series models, Sony’s X930D and other 2016 XBR-D 4K HDR TVs or Samsung’s own 2016 SUHD TVs.

Thus, while the KU6300 doesn’t come close to the 10-bit color vibrancy and 1400 nit+ peak brightness levels of 2016 SUHD TVs like the KS8000 from the same brand , it delivers decent HDR contrast range and definitely beats most SDR 4K TVs we’ve seen on sale to-date in overall display quality.
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Again, this review still doesn't love the lack of full HDR support, and lists it as a negative. But the text of the review delivers a much more nuanced overview of the TV's HDR capabilities and seems to support the argument that it is basically HDR-lite, as opposed to RTINGS which is of the opinion that the TV does not benefit from HDR very much at all.

I don't pretend to know who is "correct" between the two, just thought it interesting and worth sharing.

Loving mine, blown away by it :-)
 
meanspartan said:
Not trying to "defend" my purchase I swear (lol), but this review seems a lot more positive on the KU6300's HDR capabilities than RTINGS, although it still acknowledges that the TV is limited in this regard:

http://4k.com/tv/samsung-ku6300-rev...-un60ku6300-un55ku6300-un50ku6300-un40ku6300/

Key portions of the review about HDR on the KU6300:









Again, this review still doesn't love the lack of full HDR support, and lists it as a negative. But the text of the review delivers a much more nuanced overview of the TV's HDR capabilities and seems to support the argument that it is basically HDR-lite, as opposed to RTINGS which is of the opinion that the TV does not benefit from HDR very much at all.

I don't pretend to know who is "correct", just thought it interesting and worth sharing.

Loving mine, blown away by it :-)
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I just returned my KU6500 for a KS8000, but not because of the HDR or panel quality. Image quality was pretty superb on the panel, but the curve is pretty pointless other than aesthetics. Too much plastics used for my liking as well. The KS8000 is better in nearly every regard, but I wouldn't have been upset if I kept the KU6500. I tried HDR out on both and while the KS8000 looks really good, it was harder for me to notice the difference on the KU6500. HDR performance is something you'd probably quickly get over with a set in the 6 series, because it hits all the other notes well. Hopefully better build quality and wide color gamut trickles down next year to the more budget sets.
 
conpfreak said:
I just returned my KU6500 for a KS8000, but not because of the HDR or panel quality. Image quality was pretty superb on the panel, but the curve is pretty pointless other than aesthetics. Too much plastics used for my liking as well. The KS8000 is better in nearly every regard, but I wouldn't have been upset if I kept the KU6500. I tried HDR out on both and while the KS8000 looks really good, it was harder for me to notice the difference on the KU6500. HDR performance is something you'd probably quickly get over with a set in the 6 series, because it hits all the other notes well. Hopefully better build quality and wide color gamut trickles down next year to the more budget sets.
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Ya, I don't get curved TVs to be honest. They look like a nice gimmick, but kill viewing angles (obviously). I'll admit they might add a tiny bit to immersion, but they also make the TV look like a bow-tie when sitting in front of it lol.

I just went with the basic flat-panel 6300, didn't even cross my mind to plop down more for a curved version. If I were to spend a couple hundred more, I woulda just gone after better HDR of course.
 
OMGGOGGLE skyrim at 4K is :O

I need major help calibrating tho. Games look great but TV looks dark actually. I have like no 4K tv sources. :(
 
Curved is a gimmick. There is some daya supporting a curve above 70"-90" which surrounds your field of view. But aside from aesthetics and slick marketing, the curve has done nothing but cost more. I've said it before but I have yet to see a curved set perform better all things being equal to a flat tv. They may be equal but almost always are worse. More light bleed, worse uniformity in terms of greys etc.

Y2Kev said:
OMGGOGGLE skyrim at 4K is :O

I need major help calibrating tho. Games look great but TV looks dark actually. I have like no 4K tv sources. :(
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Have you tweaked any of the game mode settings?
 
No, I didn't. I just flipped it to game mode. It just got...brighter and cooler I think.

What is a good test for HDR?
 
Y2Kev said:
OMGGOGGLE skyrim at 4K is :O

I need major help calibrating tho. Games look great but TV looks dark actually. I have like no 4K tv sources. :(
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Calibration using an HD source is generally accurate enough for most purposes. If you have a Blu-ray disk with THX calibration, like Wall*E, then that's as good a place as any to start. I put my set in Movie mode and calibrated before enabling Game mode. I'm not sure if that's relevant.

Most people report getting brightness in the 45/46/47 range and contrast somewhere from 95-100. Set sharpness to 0 unless you absolutely positively can't live without extra artificial jagged edges and halos, and don't go above 20 even if you're slightly crazy. Color and tiny at neutral settings are generally spot on (50 and G50/R50.)

I have Smart LED on High and Dynamic Contrast at Medium because I like fairly high-contrast imagery. Many people find Warm1 preferable to Warm2 even though the latter is what a professional calibrator will recommend. Don't thinker with the grayscale 2-point or 10-point settings unless you have a professional with a meter, just focus on: brightness, contrast, and gamma for a start. I found gamma at -2 to be closest to reference gamma but that might be a little dark for some tastes and it's possible it has something to do with the specific panel (AA02.)

Color space should be set to Auto to prevent excessively saturated colors in non-HDR material. Enjoy! It really is a spectacular television for the price.
 
Good fucking god you turn off dynamic brightness and it goes up to surface of the sun

LOVE
IT


we're just watching 4k demo reels
 
graywolf323 said:
yep, it's just the curved screen model of the same TV
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Any real disadvantage from a curved? my viewing will be pretty much at the center of the TV i just want to make sure i am not buying into some dumb gimmick thing.

Given all the shipping troubles i just don't want to deal with that on the 8000 and they do have the 55 in the 8500.
 
Just got a 4KTV with HDR! It's probably not as good as the Samsung or Vizio, but it looks amazing! It's the LG UH6030. Going to test the input with the Pro shortly.
 
Question for those with the Ps4 pro and a 4K TV. Currently Im in the 1080pTV/OGps4 club and I figure to completely upgrade, I'd have to spend a grand just about.

Is it worth it? The only thing holding me back is the underwhelming PS4 pro specs vs. what was expected.
 
KTS2448 said:
Question for those with the Ps4 pro and a 4K TV. Currently Im in the 1080pTV/OGps4 club and I figure to completely upgrade, I'd have to spend a grand just about.

Is it worth it? The only thing holding me back is the underwhelming PS4 pro specs vs. what was expected.
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Mine was normally $900+ and has HDR, but it's currently $400 at Target for Pre-Black Friday. I'm going to test it soon.
 
Madness said:
Unless you are going OLED or Z9D, pretty much every television is a panel lottery because they outsource from several places.
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Even then you have all the various panel defects to worry about. If the OLED deal hadn't saved me enough to buy a KS8000 in the side, I'd have never rolled the dice.
 
I picked up a Sony X750D today. It supports 4:4:4 color. I have an Xbox S. I currently have the Xbox set at PC RGB and the TV on full. Has the black crush been fixed on the Xbox or should I put it on limited and the TV on auto?
 
I keep going backwards and forwards on buying a TV now vs waiting a year or two - deciding to get the Sony X800D and then talking myself out of it - it not hitting the brightness spec for Ultra HD Premium being the only significant drawback I can find with it.

My head is saying the sensible thing is to wait because specs will only get better, and if I had unlimited space for the TV that's exactly what I'd do. The space I have will fit a maximum 43" TV however, and I keep thinking by ~2018 there will be no well specced 4K HDR TVs at 43" or less, because there are barely any right now. Am I overreacting with that?

I could always relocate stuff to fit a larger TV but would rather not. I hope there will still be TVs to cater to "smaller" screen sizes by the time UHD Premium is common.
 
blado said:
I have about $400 to spend and am torn between the https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CH9ZTI4/?tag=neogaf0e-20 or the Samsung 50 inch KU 6300. I'm not really used to gaming on a tv so I'm a bit torn on which to buy. I'll probably also use it for pc gaming as well.
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I bought that LG monitor a few months ago and it's amazing. I do a lot of video and photo editing, so I need the color accuracy that comes from IPS panels. Sleek design with a sleek finish, it's a quality monitor and great for gaming too. I didn't even have to do any calibrations out of the box.
 
One year ago I've bought a nice Sony 43" LED TV, Full HD.
I'm using it pretty much with PS4. I'm ok with it.

Recently I've started thinking to move to a 4K HDR TV of the same size and give this TV to my sister (that needs one). I could evenually enjoy the PS4 PRO experience.

So, I'm looking for a good TV with these features. It would be great to save some money for Black Friday.

43"/50" inches
4K
HDR
Low input lag (so I think I should go for a LED not OLED

Do you have any raccomandation?
Thanks so much
 
Snowballo said:
One year ago I've bought a nice Sony 43" LED TV, Full HD.
I'm using it pretty much with PS4. I'm ok with it.

Recently I've started thinking to move to a 4K HDR TV of the same size and give this TV to my sister (that needs one). I could evenually enjoy the PS4 PRO experience.

So, I'm looking for a good TV with these features. It would be great to save some money for Black Friday.

43"/50" inches
4K
HDR
Low input lag (so I think I should go for a LED not OLED

Do you have any raccomandation?
Thanks so much
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The most popular TV on this site is the Samsung KS8000. That's your best bet for the price. Try to get in on someone's Employee Pricing Program for a massive discount. You can get a 49" for $650.
 
Ugh. My ks8000 has an issue with the backlight. There are 2 small cones of light emanating from the lower right side. It's not noticeable on bright full screen images but very distracting when black or dark images are displayed. I didn't even notice until playing a bluray with a different aspect ratio.

Has anyone dealt with Samsung on an exchange?
 
Snowballo said:
One year ago I've bought a nice Sony 43" LED TV, Full HD.
I'm using it pretty much with PS4. I'm ok with it.

Recently I've started thinking to move to a 4K HDR TV of the same size and give this TV to my sister (that needs one). I could evenually enjoy the PS4 PRO experience.

So, I'm looking for a good TV with these features. It would be great to save some money for Black Friday.

43"/50" inches
4K
HDR
Low input lag (so I think I should go for a LED not OLED

Do you have any raccomandation?
Thanks so much
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I just ordered the Sony Bravia KD49XD8077 last night

Checking multiple reviews (and hearing reports from people I game with) it only has 33m/s latency which for the price range is great
 
PaulLFC said:
I keep going backwards and forwards on buying a TV now vs waiting a year or two - deciding to get the Sony X800D and then talking myself out of it - it not hitting the brightness spec for Ultra HD Premium being the only significant drawback I can find with it.

My head is saying the sensible thing is to wait because specs will only get better, and if I had unlimited space for the TV that's exactly what I'd do. The space I have will fit a maximum 43" TV however, and I keep thinking by ~2018 there will be no well specced 4K HDR TVs at 43" or less, because there are barely any right now. Am I overreacting with that?

I could always relocate stuff to fit a larger TV but would rather not. I hope there will still be TVs to cater to "smaller" screen sizes by the time UHD Premium is common.
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For context, also worth considering brexit. Prices are likely to be 15-20% higher when new models come out
 
mrklaw said:
For context, also worth considering brexit. Prices are likely to be 15-20% higher when new models come out
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Very true - finally decided to just go for the 43" KD43X8088 (US X800D) and just got back from ordering. Not the brightest TV but since I watch most at night in darker lighting conditions it shouldn't be a problem for my situation - looking forward to it arriving tomorrow or early next week!
 
Wanted to buy a cheap Samsung at 899$ first.

May end up buying a 2300$ OLED.

I'm freaking out. OLED sounds like everything I ever wanted, all the other TVs seem to have a compromise except this one.
 
PaulLFC said:
Very true - finally decided to just go for the 43" KD43X8088 (US X800D) and just got back from ordering. Not the brightest TV but since I watch most at night in darker lighting conditions it shouldn't be a problem for my situation - looking forward to it arriving tomorrow or early next week!
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Fistbump

I got the KD49X8077 (same TV but black)

From what I read we've made a good choice (and cheap on black friday deals)
 
Supa Necta said:
Ugh. My ks8000 has an issue with the backlight. There are 2 small cones of light emanating from the lower right side. It's not noticeable on bright full screen images but very distracting when black or dark images are displayed. I didn't even notice until playing a bluray with a different aspect ratio.

Has anyone dealt with Samsung on an exchange?
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sounds like what they call flashlighting. i had the same issue with a samsung set i bought several years ago. they worked with me well and sent replacements, but they never sent me one that completely got rid of it. the third one they sent finally only had a very little bit in one corner. it was acceptible but not perfect. no panel is perfect. but some are damn close. it was a real hassle, and to be honest i thought they had solved this problem. you may have just gotten a rare bum one. call them immediately. and now that you bring this up, i was just about to pull the trigger on a ks8000 but you have me second guessing it. i don't want to go through that again.

edit: and the only reason i kept the one with minimal flashlighting was because you really couldn't notice it when i played games in game mode. otherwise it was annoying but eventually i just kind of stopped noticing it. now the same tv has a large wavy line/discoloration that looks like a water spot (it's very old now) so it's driving me nuts and i'm champing at the bit to pull the trigger on the ks8000 that is in my amazon cart right this minute. sorry, i like to help but i wish i had never seen your post.
 
So I ordered a 65" KS8000 through Samsung and the ASG tracker says in the description that the size is 55".

Should I be concerned and contact them or is this just a typo?
 
Nightz said:
Did anyone who bought a TV from Samsung get it with white glove shipping? Was it worth it?
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Makes it easier to return things since they unpack it for you so you can visually inspect it before they leave just in case you get a dud. What I would do is buy the same model at a retail store and then return the EPP shipment to the retailer.
 
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