Logan |OT| Children of (X)Men (SPOILERS)

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Haha, I'm really tired, I need to go to sleep, long week of work after a long week with the flu, glad I got to see this movie tonight though.

I was trying to say that there was a guy that was super into the movie. Whenever Wolverine was killing someone I would hear "OH SHIT" and stuff like that. I thought it was funny.
While I'm not one to be obnoxious at the movies I was definitely with that guy in spirit. Savoring those kills with glorious Dolby audio

Every stab :')
 
Stuff like the above is why I'm glad I get to watch at press previews.

What does that mean?

It doesn't bother me as long as it's not too annoying. It's one of the reasons why I like the movie theatre. I like being with people that enjoy something the way I do, though I'm not someone that will ever be vocal like that :lol
 
Press previews are boring as fuck, I want a theater that's into a goddamn movie otherwise why wouldn't I just watch it at home

Also my god I didn't know Mangold had this in him, I didn't mind The Wolverine but they clearly fucked with the OG plan a lot. This one was just despair all around, every victory was pretty hollow
 
I was terrified at our screening because right before the movie started a huge group of like 8+ people walked in loudly laughing and wouldn't shut the fuck up during trailers (Ghost in The Shell, "so it's the female Matrix lol haha girl power lol almost spilled my beer haha")

Thankfully they were silent during the actual movie

I have no problem for enthusiasm, that's part of the theater experience, but that's different from just being obnoxious
 
I have no problem for enthusiasm, that's part of the theater experience, but that's different from just being obnoxious

Yeah.

Like when I watched TFA, the crowd made it better since they cheered when we saw old characters and laughed when funny things happened.

But then you have people, like the guy during Logan, who was Charles pulled his tongue out he said something like "Haha, man, they making Charles something something something", no one needs to hear you fucking commentary.

Or during an action scene he yelled, "DAMN THEY FUCKING THOSE GUYS UP!". Shit like that completely distracts everyone from what is happening on screen and puts the attention on them.
 
Logan has a beard, wears denim, gets a black family killed because he's a dumbass, etc etc :p

Yo that father btw was kickass, I popped for him trying to shoot Logan because it's his damn fault
 
While it's not really like The Last of Us, they did have a similar emotional beat when Laura calls him Daddy which reminded me of Joel calling Ellie baby.

They both hit me in the same feels department.
 
I understood where people were coming from with TLOU comparisons from the first teaser. Somber acoustic track, grizzled beard man with young girl traveling across the country, brutal melee combat encounters in hotels and shit, forests......etc

That said the full picture really doesn't have that much in common unless you just want to say "it's grounded, sad, and bleak" (well.....about as grounded as something like this can be)
 
JM: And unwittingly, not very different from our politics, the very people who are demanding better movies - the fans - have become unwitting accomplices, in my opinion, of the undoing of the quality of these movies. Because they bought into the idea that you're supposed to cut all these movies into some giant mega-movie. Then they're all supposed to fit together in a way that the fucking comic books never fit together. I mean, the comic book authors reinvented their worlds 28 times - they even drew the characters different. They changed the outfits, the looks, the height, the muscularity - they changed these characters.

For some reason, people have been programmed with the idea that the interpretive act by a film director is a violation of a canon as opposed to fulfilling one. In comic books, from Frank Miller to Joe Quesada, that's different. From Joe Kubert to Craig Claremont, those are different worlds - different worlds, different visions - and no one expected to be able to interchange panels from those different artists and writers and have the things hold 100 percent true.
That's a great quote from Mangold. Spot on.
 
Just got back from the theater. So fucking bleak. Jackman did a fantastic job portraying a decaying wolverine. I couldn't believe how pathetic their lives had become.
 
I understood where people were coming from with TLOU comparisons from the first teaser. Somber acoustic track, grizzled beard man with young girl traveling across the country, brutal melee combat encounters in hotels and shit, forests......etc

That said the full picture really doesn't have that much in common unless you just want to say "it's grounded, sad, and bleak" (well.....about as grounded as something like this can be)

People saw a bearded Logan with a little girl companion and made a lazy comparison based on nothing else to go on.
 
Kudos for making the future as realistic to our world as possible. So many other movies if they were set in 2029 would have robots, neon lights, cyber enhanced soldiers and civilians. There were a couple of exceptions but I like that they kept their vision of the future tamed.
 
What does that mean?

It doesn't bother me as long as it's not too annoying. It's one of the reasons why I like the movie theatre. I like being with people that enjoy something the way I do, though I'm not someone that will ever be vocal like that :lol

Press previews are boring as fuck, I want a theater that's into a goddamn movie otherwise why wouldn't I just watch it at home

Don't get me wrong, I like the livelier audience as much as the next person, but for me, opening week audiences for this specific lot of movies can go overboard with their reactions and said redundancy for reactions. The only time I was really into it was during TFA because that really felt like a celebration of sorts that involved everybody.

With press screenings and screenings that I watch a week later or on a matinee, it's a good safety net of tameness and reasonable reactions that aren't distracting as hell.

What I'm saying is that for me, for the most part:

Preferred: (Millenium Falcon appears on screen for the first time in TFA) "Eyyyy lmao *clapclapclap*"

Not preferred: (Millenium Falcon appears on screen) "OMGASJNISXNOJNF NDNOJANDOAAAAAAGGGGGHWWWHHOOAAAAAA"
 
I'm surprised Children of Men hasn't come up more often, since
both movies involve a broken man drinking himself to death while immigrants are rounded up, a race is dying out, and the main character gets killed taking a young girl to a safe haven.
 
I'm surprised Children of Men hasn't come up more often, since
both movies involve a broken man drinking himself to death while immigrants are rounded up, a race is dying out, and the main character gets killed taking a young girl to a safe haven.

Naw, it's TLOU.
 
Me right now

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Fuck this was incredible. It really lived up to the hype.
 
Well, I mean if you really wanted to draw comparisons to TLOU...

Both involve payment to deliver a girl to someone. Ellie is a cure to the fungus infection, while Laura could be seen as a cure to the mutant extinction. Both Logan and Joel are washed up fighters, with a long tortured past, who long for a family deep down, but believe they can't have it. Laura and Ellie are both aggressive tomboys who have parents, and want that. TBH Ellie had more of a personality though. I wish we could have seen more of Laura /:

Charles matches Tess. A partner that the main character loves, but has trouble showing it. Even making similar hollow, we'll find someplace safe to settle down comments(granted with less suicide in TLOU). Both Charles and Tess see the girl as a beacon of hope for their futures. Charles/Tess bind the two characters together, wherein Logan/Joel would have left her without him/her, and his/her death forces the two characters to bond. While Tess is a love interest, and Charles is a father figure, they both essentially serve the same propose.

Leaving her with the kids at the end, and the whole "you're better off with them, they can take it from here, I didn't sign up for this" stuff. As well as the, admittedly reversed, "Everyone around me I care about dies". The final charge in as well, but that's just a general trope. The moral dilemma in TLOU is unique, the best thing in the story, honestly, while this was just straight heroism, which is fine because it's a comic book movie.

Most of this stuff may be general genre tropes. Like having a scene that's normal family life to make the characters see what it's like, and then shit going to hell, while with the family, to further drill in that they can't have that life. I mean that was done in TLOU, but as someone pointed out in Wolverine Origins too. The comparisons can be made, but not on a beat by beat basis.
 
Just got back a while ago. Loved it.

Before this movie, I had only seen the original X-Men film. Sort of want to look up the rest of the Wolverine movies.

We were tired and trusted Mediastinger which stated there were no extra scenes after the credits. Was there something after all?
 
Why did I think some form of
Mr Sinister
would be in this, or is that supposed to be another movie?


Thanks Charles identical twin brother who also couldn't walk for having such a shitty brain.

His brain couldn't handle all the power!
 
Just got back a while ago. Loved it.

Before this movie, I had only seen the original X-Men film. Sort of want to look up the rest of the Wolverine movies.

We were tired and trusted Mediastinger which stated there were no extra scenes after the credits. Was there something after all?

Nope.

The Deadpool 2 teaser was this movie's post-credit scene but they showed it at the beginning for obvious reasons.
 
They should do another one of these where Jennifer Lawrence is taking Ian McKellen on a trip , and they like cross paths with the Jackman/Stewart combo at another gas station.

Then the movie abruptly ends when Laura brutally murders Jennifer Lawrence.
 
TLOU's influence, if anything, was aesthetically. I'm sure the production design and art team had some semblance of an idea and access to TLOU.

Really, they are ultimately different because TLOU deals with a bleak existence across the entire world and human race, and Logan focuses of the personal bleakness of Logan, Charles, and Laura's life.
 
They should do another one of these where Jennifer Lawrence is taking Ian McKellen on a trip , and they like cross paths with the Jackman/Stewart combo at another gas station.

Then the movie abruptly ends when Laura brutally murders Jennifer Lawrence.

It would be Rebecca Romijn (and not Lawrence) if we are getting technical on timelines.

Sorry to wreck your scenario. :(
 
"Do not fear the light."

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"Charles, it wasn't me. It wasn't me."

"Sunseeker..."

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"Daddy..."

"So this is... what it feels like..."

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This movie destroyed me.
 
Just came back from seeing this. Easily my favorite Wolverine movie by a long shot. The action and gore is great and I love how they don't hesitate to get really dark or have a kid murdering people. The carnage was amazing. It was like watching Predator or any one of those 80s action movies with ridiculous gore like people losing arms and heads. And a lot of it a little kid doing it. It was like the best elements of The Good Son and the GI Joe scene where the two kid ninjas are beating the crap out of each other, except in this someone might get decapitated on screen as a result.

The Terminator like baddie was kinda dumb but that was the only thing I didn't like. And the length. It felt a little long. I was enjoying it but I did check my watch.

Anyways, cool movie. Wolverine could never show up again and I'd be satisfied. He'd probably be a let down compared to this.

The next X-Men movie needs to be really good. I saw these kids freeze a man's arm and shatter it, make someone explode into gibs, slice someone's head off, and a group watch in satisfaction as they tag teamed in slow killing a man. Zingers from Quicksilver are not going to be enough. I'd love another X-Men movie with X2 levels of action but I don't think Singer has the capacity for it anymore.

The Deadpool 2 teaser was this movie's post-credit scene but they showed it at the beginning for obvious reasons.

I hated that. That and the thanks for not bootlegging thing that played before X-Men Apocalypse. I don't mind trailers but once the lights dim and the theater plays its and now the movie starts animation, I'm expecting the movie to start.
 
And the length. It felt a little long. I was enjoying it but I did check my watch.
It was the opposite for me. It felt long and I was worried that the film was probably going to end way sooner than it actually did (so I was pleasantly surprised with how much they actually fit in the film)

Too many movies nowadays (especially comic book movies) feel limited in scope and basically lead to one or two good fight sequences, and then end. That's how I felt about Dredd (which people love). I enjoyed it but it seemed like once it became Judge Dredd killing fools it didn't last nearly as long as I wanted. Whereas Logan paces out the murdering quite nicely
 
Would you guys want to see a Laura standalone movie? I've been thinking about it since I came out of the theater and I think that I'd rather them leave the character alone. I wouldn't want to see anyone but Dafne Keen play her or see that character in a normal X-men film.

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It'd feel so weird if I saw her fighting fucking Apocalypse or something.
 
Would you guys want to see a Laura standalone movie? I've been thinking about it since I came out of the theater and I think that I'd rather them leave the character alone. I wouldn't want to see anyone else play Dafne Keen or see that character in a normal X-men film.

I'd be open to it, depending on the premise.
 
Would you guys want to see a Laura standalone movie? I've been thinking about it since I came out of the theater and I think that I'd rather them leave the character alone. I wouldn't want to see anyone but Dafne Keen play her or see that character in a normal X-men film.

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It'd feel so weird if I saw her fighting fucking Apocalypse or something.
I wouldn't be opposed to it, but I think what made her character work was the balance between her and Logan. Don't know if she is necessarily strong enough to carry a film (despite me very much enjoying watching a little girl gut people)
 
Was anyone at the 8:30 showing at Cedar Park , TX Cinemark? <After end spoilers>
Half the audience laughed through those last moments. It was surreal.
How did they let Mangold fuck the last act again? That kid who lead the group shrugs, "welp, time to go", they walk away, cue credits. Unreal
 
Was anyone at the 8:30 showing at Cedar Park , TX Cinemark? <After end spoilers>
Half the audience laughed through those last moments. It was surreal.
How did they let Mangold fuck the last act again? That kid who lead the group shrugs, "welp, time to go", they walk away, cue credits. Unreal

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Would you guys want to see a Laura standalone movie? I've been thinking about it since I came out of the theater and I think that I'd rather them leave the character alone. I wouldn't want to see anyone but Dafne Keen play her or see that character in a normal X-men film.

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It'd feel so weird if I saw her fighting fucking Apocalypse or something.

Naw, I would rather see all those kids turn into the New Mutants and branch their own post Logan storyline.
 
How did they let Mangold fuck the last act again? That kid who lead the group shrugs, "welp, time to go", they walk away, cue credits. Unreal
What more was needed there? They're at the border, there's nothing to stop them; they cross, and move onto something better, hopefully. Ending things at Logan's grave is perfect.
 

This is getting hung up on the what and not the execution.

What more was needed there? They're at the border, there's nothing to stop them; they cross, and move onto something better, hopefully. Ending things at Logan's grave is perfect.


Not more...less!
Like, nothiong would have been lost without that kid killing the fucking moment.
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Also, how does them crossing the border stop a militia from getting them? I must have missed this.
 
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