2016-17 TV Cancellations Thread: TNT finds "Nothing can come of nothing."

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According to that interview with in Deadline it doesn't seem like there's much confidence in 24:Legacy moving towards a second season. I wonder how low this show will go, could we see a 0.8 or even a 0.7 in a few weeks or is 0.9 the floor?

Though I am surprised that APB seems to hanging in there even.

Also, regarding yesterday's ratings, with Riverdale, Powerless, Training Day and now Time After Time it looks like WBtv have had four new shows stumble and fall right out of the gate. I suppose having Lethal Weapon being considered a 'sort of' hit is still a win for this season.
 
Busty said:
According to that interview with in Deadline it doesn't seem like there's much confidence in 24:Legacy moving towards a second season. I wonder how low this show will go, could we see a 0.8 or even a 0.7 in a few weeks or is 0.9 the floor?

Though I am surprised that APB seems to hanging in there even.

Also, regarding yesterday's ratings, with Riverdale, Powerless, Training Day and now Time After Time it looks like WBtv have had four new shows stumble and fall right out of the gate. I suppose having Lethal Weapon being considered a 'sort of' hit is still a win for this season.
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I think the only hope for 24 is if Designated Survivor ends and they bring Jack back for occasional seasons.
Not that the show is bad without Jack, but a huge portion of the audience literally only watched for Jack Bauer.
 
- Feud premiere ratings via Deadline
FX’s new Ryan Murphy anthology series Feud launched its first installment, Bette and Joan, on Sunday with solid 2.26 million Live+same day viewers tuning in. While bellow the opening of Ryan’s pop culture phenom People v. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story (5.1 million), it was in line with the premiere of the Emmy-winning FX limited series Fargo (2.66 million). The heavily promoted Feud also edged the debuts of recent FX entries Taboo (1.8 million) and Legion (1.6 million). All data is L+SD.

Airing on an atypical night, Sunday (AHS and ACS run on Wednesday and Tuesday, respectively, as re most of FX’s series, including Legion and Taboo), Feud was FX’s most watched program of last week by a wide margin (Taboo drew 1 million viewers, Legion logged 751,000 viewers in L+SD)

Given Feud‘s subject matter — a story set in 1960s Hollywood — and the fact that it is toplined by two actresses who are 67- and 70-year-old, Jessica Lange and Susan Sarandon, the series understandably was old-skewing.

The Feud debut drew a 0.5 adults 18-49 LSD rating (663,000 viewers), below any major FX premieres in the past few years. Still, it is broadening FX’s audience and last week it managed to edge the Legion and Taboo originals.
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CBS Looking To Renew 5-6 Freshman Series

Drama Bull, the most watched new series of the season; comedy Kevin Can Wait, the most watched highest-rated new comedy series of the season; and drama MacGyver, which has improved CBS’ ratings performance on Friday and makes money for CBS TV Studios internationally, are considered shoe-ins. Three freshman comedies, Man With a Plan, Superior Donuts and The Great Indoors, will likely duke it out for the remaining two slots or all make it in if CBS decides to return six first-year shows.

Of the three, The Great Indoors is considered the more vulnerable at the moment but all are in real contention and all owned by CBS, as are Bull and MacGyver; Kevin Can Wait is co-produced by Sony TV and CBS TV Studios. (CBS’ other new scripted series this season, drama Ransom, is an international acquisition, which falls under a different business model.)
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Of CBS’ 17 drama and comedy pilots, Moonves said he expects two comedies and two dramas to be picked up to series, though he warned that the plans “all could change depending on how good they come in.”

Indeed, last year at the same event Moonves said he expected to pick up “no more than four or five” pilots to series. The network ended up picking up 8 pilots to series in May, followed by a ninth, Superior Donuts, in the off-season after it was recast and reshot.
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Meanwhile, last year he projected that five freshman series would be renewed. In light of the larger volume of new series orders, only three first-year shows made it to Year 2, Life In Pieces, Code Black and Criminal Minds: Beyond Borders. So things will likely change between now and May.
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RatskyWatsky said:
Frequency, No Tomorrow, etc.
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Containment... The Secret Circle... Star-Crossed... The Tomorrow People... ;__;

Emily Owens MD ;_____; (just kidding)

(This got me looking at the list of CW programs. In addition to the above, still missing The LA Complex and The Carrie Diaries. And Veronica Mars but that kinda doesn't count. Putting aside my love of genre TV, I think non-CW fans would find a lot to like in The LA Complex in particular, though that one technically wasn't a CW show but a Canadian series.)

Anyway, I am glad to see this. I had a feeling it may be coming with the Archie Comics development deal that was announced.
 
maxcriden said:
Containment... The Secret Circle... Star-Crossed... The Tomorrow People... ;__;
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I'm still missing some of those. Well, all of them except The Secret Circle. But I'm quite happy with their general renewal strategy. If something is good enough, they seem to renew it. Outside of Containment, all of the stuff they cancelled didn't really meet high quality standards. No Tomorrow will be the next exception.
 
Joni said:
I'm still missing some of those. Well, all of them except The Secret Circle. But I'm quite happy with their general renewal strategy. If something is good enough, they seem to renew it. Outside of Containment, all of the stuff they cancelled didn't really meet high quality standards. No Tomorrow will be the next exception.
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Surprised you didn't dig TSC. It had a good VD-type vibe going on. When you say outside of the quality standard, do you mean only stuff canceled in S1? I don't think Carrie Diaries for example is any objectively lower quality than, say, Riverdale (which I dig).
 
Yeah, I'm really not understanding why Frequency and No Tomorrow got the shaft and Riverdale is staying. They all had similar ratings, did they not? Riverdale was promoted very heavily too.
 
eternalcircle said:
Yeah, I'm really not understanding why Frequency and No Tomorrow got the shaft and Riverdale is staying. They all had similar ratings, did they not? Riverdale was promoted very heavily too.
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They probably feel like it has room to grow while those other shows didn't.

Also the Netflix deal probably helps with the cost.
 
eternalcircle said:
Yeah, I'm really not understanding why Frequency and No Tomorrow got the shaft and Riverdale is staying. They all had similar ratings, did they not? Riverdale was promoted very heavily too.
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Matt said:
They probably feel like it has room to grow while those other shows didn't.

Also the Netflix deal probably helps with the cost.
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I think it's a combo of the Netflix deal, wider potential appeal for Riverdale as you indicated, Matt, and also the overall Archie properties deal.
 
Joni said:
Oh, I simply never saw it. Can't miss what I didn't see. Shows like The Secret Circle and Cult might pop on my radar once if I ever need more Haley/Alaric/Octavia in my life.
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Oh, I see. Gotcha. I think you'll enjoy it when you do get to see it. (I don't know who Octavia is, but I understood the two other references.)
 
Cornballer said:
- Riverdale renewed for S2 by CW
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Great news. I had a good feeling about this. The live viewing was lower than I expected but it seems like it's catching on overseas. I'm still betting on it getting a cultural awareness boost over the summer via US Netflix.

Now we all just have to cross our fingers for an iZombie renewal after its premiere, and we're good.
 
jrush64 said:
I know iZombie S3 hasn't started, but does it have a good chance of being renewed? Its like the best show CW has.
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No clue until S3 begins. If the ratings fall between a .6 and a .8, then it will be safe, as that seems to be the new normal for the CW.
 
jrush64 said:
I know iZombie S3 hasn't started, but does it have a good chance of being renewed? Its like the best show CW has.
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I would say it has an okay chance, depends how many pilots CW wants to pick up, and if unrenewed stuff like The Originals get another season. I plan to enjoy the eps and just hope for the best but not expect it - same as last season. I'm really looking forward to it, though.
 
My iZombie sense is tingling.

jrush64 said:
I know iZombie S3 hasn't started, but does it have a good chance of being renewed? Its like the best show CW has.
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I guess it could be able to get another season, but given the spot (Friday) and the already not-too-great ratings of S2 I fear for the worst.
 
El Topo said:
You're right. Huh. For some reason I thought it got the Friday slot.
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Its position isn't too bad, I think.

Its season premiere is on after Legends' finale. It then gets the last few episodes of the Flash, including its finale, as a lead-in.

The trouble might come when the show is on by itself. But by then, I think whether it'll get another season will be decided.
 
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