Wonder Woman now tracking to have opening on par with other DCEU movies
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Really? You can't sign a contract that your payment will be something, but you won't receive payment until the completion of the thing for which you signed the contract? You're right, that NEVER happens.
Sweeney Tom
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But Daily Star called it the superhero movie of the year
Pai Pai Master
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Movie has an uphill battle ahead of itself. The baggage of previous DC shitfest plus having a female lead that lacks major star power. It's gonna perform poorly unless word of mouth is extremely strong. At the very least I hope it's good, I liked that last clip they released.
I don't think star power really matters that much for these movies.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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Aren't most super heroes more popular overseas than in the US? Maybe not superman or captain america, but every other one?
WhateverItTakes
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Completely. All the goodwill of WW being one of DCs main pillars is gone by now, Suicide Squad killed it. I'm hoping we end up with something legitimately great, as opposed to 'good but this this and this'
Count Dookkake
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I bet Wonder Woman has a big opening.
Curious wich footage that is then. All footage and every trailer has been welcomed positive.
Glass Rebel
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Yikes. $65m OW would be pretty bad.
Not really, outside of specific countries in Asia or Latin America. Superhero films tend to have smaller overseas shares than similar blockbusters in different genres (outside of Star Wars and Star Trek).
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Most DC heroes outside of Batman are either unknown or not that popular overseas. Marvel built their brand slowly. Cap 1 had very modest numbers outside of the US but exploded with the sequels. WW could do the same with good word-of-mouth but I don't expect huge numbers for her first film.
female led movies arent though.
also wonder woman is such small character in outside of USA.
Sibersk Esto
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Sho_Nuff82
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Should she though? I still don't see any reason why WW should be substantially bigger at launch than say, Captain America, Hulk, Dr Strange, or Ant Man.
It's by all accounts a by the numbers origin story, and the only visible threat in the movie's ads are people with guns. 200 million domestic is the most optimistic projection you can have for a film like this.
Alex_Mexico
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You've got a point th--
Ok now you're just spewing bullshit!
My 60 year old mother knows who Wonder Woman is through pop culture osmosis! She's the most famous female superhero of all time, for fuck's sakes! Before Suicide Squad no one but comic book nerds and some 90s kids who watched Batman TAS even knew who she was!
ryutaro's mama
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If anyone but you posted this, I would have taken the post at face value.
If it goes over 80 million OW, WB should be doing happy backflips. Even though the movie is looking solid, there really isn't anything there that demands you watch it opening weekend. Couple that with the general ambivalence towards female superheroes inherent in the comic book audience, yeah, I don't expect big numbers.
This is the second or third time I've seen someone suggest this. Where is this idea coming from?
Sho_Nuff82
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Young people (age 18-30, the people making up the bulk of these films' audiences) grew up on BTAS, JLU, The Batman, Lego Batman, Injustice, the Arkham games, they know very much who Harley is. Her Halloween costume (a year before SS launched she was #1 female costume) and comic sales are evidence of that. Along with Deadpool, she's one of a handful of breakout comic characters in the last 25 years.
How many grandmas are filling up theaters to watch 3 hours of edgy Justice League or WW?
Honestly this post reads like the old "only marvel film with a chance to succeed is Hulk, but don't use CGI, everyone knows the 70s tv show" posts.
Boxoffice tracked it some weeks ago at 83. And that was before all the spots and last trailer. And it ususally goes up close to releases. As expected.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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75 years of sales data
PhantomThief
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Exactly this. Thanks for that, now I don't have to explain myself hehe ^_^.
I thought we were talking about the movie-going audience, not the couple hundred thousand of comic readers.
Even then, female led comic books are doing pretty well.
83? i could see MCU hitting twice that in 2019
Wait you think Captain Marvel will hit 160 ow?
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Well he did say "comic book audience". In general, historically, male superhero comics do way better than female ones. Wonder Woman is pretty much the biggest female superhero of all time and I can't think of a time that she's ever consistently sold well.
autumnleaf
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83? i could see MCU hitting twice that in 2019
No chance. Look at the openings for Ant-Man, Dr Strange and GOTG for a better idea of where that will open. 90-100m.
A Marvel fanboy. What more can be said. I've never even heard of that character until the movie was announced.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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The Wrap updated their article accordingly.
The original article was written this way
The original article was written this way
Terrible journalism on the part of The Wrap.
I don't expect Captain Marvel to do $160m OW, but the situations aren't entirely comparable, are they? They're going to introduce CM in Infinity War, so she won't be a total unknown when her first solo movie hits. Maybe Black Panther is a better comparison, but we don't have numbers for it. And Black Panther played a large part in Civil War. It remains to be seen what role Captain Marvel is gonna have.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Her comic has actually been doing really well since Rebirth, around 50.000 per issue and she's well above a lot of popular Marvel and DC characters. But that's a recent phenomenon, it's true that historically, she's never been a big seller.
Real risky predictions there
MugiwaraCole
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There are 4 superheroes you could ask anyone the world over if they've heard of, and the answer will almost certainly be yes; Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, Wonder Woman.
DC failing where Marvel has succeeded is completely on them being inept at this whole world-building thing, and it started in 2011 with Green Lantern. That film was supposed to kickstart the Justice League movie universe, but was so horrible they decided to start over with Man of Steel.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Lol, I think you and I already had that debate. Most people in the non-English speaking world have no idea who WW is, sorry.
MugiwaraCole
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I can guarantee more people there knew who she was pre-MCU than any Marvel hero not named Spider-Man. That's a level of goodwill DC should've absolutely capitalized on by now.
Lord Frieza
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This is not true at all. She sold as much as Superman and Batman comics in the '30s-'50s (Sensation Comics sold so well based purely on Wonder Woman, she got her own solo book during this time), and still sold steadily at those levels through the Golden Age, hence her being part of the "Trinity" since Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman were the only real surviving characters still in consistent publishing due to their popularity and sales after drop of the market post-WWII. And her comic has sold steadily through the years, though she's had more up and downs.
PhantomThief
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In the US? For sure.
Outside the US people will not say Wonder Woman I promise you that much!
Probably Hulk.
to be fair, that's not a dissimilar situation to how many people felt about Dr. Strange.
I do believe, compared to Dr. Strange, that Captain Marvel is going to experience quite the boost from being the first female led Marvel Movie.
Gordon Shumway
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DarknessTear
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I wonder if this does really bad, will Hollywood get scared of making action films with female leads? Ghostbusters, Ghost in the Shell and now this?
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