NYT: Comey Memo Says Trump Asked Him to End Flynn Investigation

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ekim

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Kusagari said:
I do legitimately believe Mensch and Taylor have some legit sources, because they have gotten some stuff right that I don't know how they could have predicted otherwise, but they've posted far more shit that just sounded absurd and then ended up being as fake as it sounded.

They're not credible even if they might rarely be right.
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If you blindly shoot 1000 times, you might hit something sometimes.
 
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Hockeymac18

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giga said:
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Apologies for not completely catching up on this thread - but has this been elaborated on in a more explicit fashion?

WSJ doesn't mess around, so if they're reporting on it, then that's saying a lot.
 
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D4Danger

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I like how people are shocked the director of the FBI might have kept notes

what the fuck do you think he was doing
 
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KoopaTheCasual

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Stop.Posting.Mensch.Bullshit.

Jesus Christ.

We have enough crazy "actual" news going on this week, we don't need to muddy the waters with any of her (or Tayler's) deranged ravings.
 
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finley83

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Hockeymac18 said:
Apologies for not completely catching up on this thread - but has this been elaborated on in a more explicit fashion?

WSJ doesn't mess around, so if they're reporting on it, then that's saying a lot.
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Yeah, Comey took notes on all his meetings with Trump. Didn't with Obama as he was trustworthy. Infer from that what you will!
 
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NullPointer

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Hockeymac18 said:
Apologies for not completely catching up on this thread - but has this been elaborated on in a more explicit fashion?

WSJ doesn't mess around, so if they're reporting on it, then that's saying a lot.
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From the article in the OP:

New York Times said:
Mr. Comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after Mr. Flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo. It was part of a paper trail Mr. Comey created documenting what he perceived as the president's improper efforts to influence a continuing investigation. An F.B.I. agent's contemporaneous notes are widely held up in court as credible evidence of conversations.

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Mr. Comey created similar memos — including some that are classified — about every phone call and meeting he had with the president, the two people said. It is unclear whether Mr. Comey told the Justice Department about the conversation or his memos.
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Yeah, there's more.
 
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cameron

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Today is a relatively slow news day (compared to the past straight 8 days), so Mensch & Co. are being opportunistic by seizing the void and filling it with unverifiable garbage.
 
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brianmcdoogle

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I wish we could get a mod ruling on some of these sources that keep getting posted or a user actually writes up something other than "they suck" or "they've been right a couple of times". Like, if they've been right a couple of times, what were those times, and is it like throwing spaghetti against the wall where a couple things stick and turn out true but everything else is way off or wrong?
 
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Minarik

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cameron said:
Today is a relatively slow news day (compared to the past straight 8 days), so Mensch & Co. are being opportunistic by seizing the void and filling it with unverifiable garbage.
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Yeah the most recent bit about the MOE didn't make sense to me, because the only thing I can think of that's similar would be a "writ of execution," but that deals with money/property seizures.
 
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mjp2417

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Hockeymac18 said:
Apologies for not completely catching up on this thread - but has this been elaborated on in a more explicit fashion?
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There haven't been any details released of what is contained in the other memos yet besides the Flynn one (and even then we have just heard a few key lines from that one).
 
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afroguy10

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Mensch is a fruitbat, I don't know anyone who takes her seriously in the UK anymore. Please stop posting her blog posts, it's just muddying the waters in my opinion.
 
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RDreamer

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Kusagari said:
I do legitimately believe Mensch and Taylor have some legit sources, because they have gotten some stuff right that I don't know how they could have predicted otherwise, but they've posted far more shit that just sounded absurd and then ended up being as fake as it sounded.

They're not credible even if they might rarely be right.
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They probably have some legit source that gives them some tiny nugget of shit and they blow it out of proportion into some crazy conspiracy bullshit. Probably like a game of telephone going on there. "Might" turns into "definitely" and investigating something turns into "it totally happened or is happening."
 
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Tovarisc

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Hockeymac18 said:
Apologies for not completely catching up on this thread - but has this been elaborated on in a more explicit fashion?

WSJ doesn't mess around, so if they're reporting on it, then that's saying a lot.
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Basically Comey wrote multi-page memo about every meeting and conversation he had with Trump. Some of them are classified and some are unclassified.
 
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Latvian Hitman

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brianmcdoogle said:
I wish we could get a mod ruling on some of these sources that keep getting posted or a user actually writes up something other than "they suck" or "they've been right a couple of times". Like, if they've been right a couple of times, what were those times, and is it like throwing spaghetti against the wall where a couple things stick and turn out true but everything else is way off or wrong?
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Can't imagine what you would need a mod ruling for if you've actually read what's been posted about said sources for the last couple of pages...
 
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Mattenth

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brianmcdoogle said:
I wish we could get a mod ruling on some of these sources that keep getting posted or a user actually writes up something other than "they suck" or "they've been right a couple of times". Like, if they've been right a couple of times, what were those times, and is it like throwing spaghetti against the wall where a couple things stick and turn out true but everything else is way off or wrong?
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They can quickly be debunked by just asking "Why are their sources exclusive to them?"

Let's assume that Mensch does actually have sources in the government that are leaking this to her. These sources would have to be pretty high up - they're reporting things about multiple agencies, with in depth knowledge about an extremely restricted court process.

So why only her? Why not CNN or WSJ or New York Times? Or maybe the sources did go to those publications, which unanimously deemed them unreliable. What motivation would the source have to blab to one random person?

To accept Mensch's reporting is ultimately to call it question the major investigative journalism divisions.
 
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KingV

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finley83 said:
Yeah, Comey took notes on all his meetings with Trump. Didn't with Obama as he was trustworthy. Infer from that what you will!
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Better yet, FBI officials are trained to keep notes on any contact they have with people involving official investigations.

That's what these memos are. They are documenting things that are pertinent to an ongoing investigation. Calling them "a journal" is really downplaying what they are. The fact that Comey was keeping memos is significant in itself.
 
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Stinkles

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shiba5 said:
Oh Ryan:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ifi_push_breaking-news&utm_term=.1dc3729a9065
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Whoopsy daisy:

After being told that The Post would cite a recording of the exchange, Buck, speaking for the GOP House leadership, said: “This entire year-old exchange was clearly an attempt at humor. No one believed the majority leader was seriously asserting that Donald Trump or any of our members were being paid by the Russians. What’s more, the speaker and leadership team have repeatedly spoken out against Russia’s interference in our election, and the House continues to investigate that activity.”
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Yes, let's keep a small joke secret and not leak it to show family loyalty. Makes perfect sense.
 
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cameron

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Arrogant Bastard said:
Boom
DOJ Appoints Special Counsel To Investigate Russia Ties

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/doj-special-counsel-russia-trump_us_591cbfa2e4b03b485cae5465
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In a statement, Rosenstein stressed that his decision ”is not a finding that crimes have been committed or that any prosecution is warranted." But he said he'd determined ”based upon the unique circumstances, the public interest requires me to place this investigation under the authority of a person who exercises a degree of independence from the normal chain of command."
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Fucking finally.
 
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Hockeymac18

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NullPointer said:
From the article in the OP:



Yeah, there's more.
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Sorry - I should have been a little clear - I guess I was wondering if anything of more substance has been leaked in regards to the memos those other meetings (i.e. how we have learned that one of the memos detailed Trump asking Comey to drop the case against Flynn).

Or if all we know is that there are detailed memos from other discussions (with the inference that there is likely other damaging info yet to be revealed/leaked).

mjp2417 said:
There haven't been any details released of what is contained in the other memos yet besides the Flynn one (and even then we have just heard a few key lines from that one).
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Thanks - that's pretty much what I was asking about.

finley83 said:
Yeah, Comey took notes on all his meetings with Trump. Didn't with Obama as he was trustworthy. Infer from that what you will!
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Interesting - first I've heard that he didn't do it with Obama. I just assumed it was standard practice for Comey.

Tovarisc said:
Basically Comey wrote multi-page memo about every meeting and conversation he had with Trump. Some of them are classified and some are unclassified.
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Thanks!
 
Oppo

Oppo

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RDreamer said:
I really don't think it even has to be that. Trump has a massive ego and lives in his own fantasy world. He probably really does think whatever he's done is no big deal, and he would never actually admit to any wrongdoing on anything.

To me this is all Trump's Razor. You don't need a convoluted explanation for his doings when the answer can just as easily be that the guy's a fucking lunatic moron. It explains everything so far.
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Trump's Razor has been sort of a thing with David Frum (not that particular phrase but the idea). His version was : there are lots of secrets, but no mystery, about Trump. You might not have his tax records but you already know he's corrupt as fuck, for instance.

edit - ah new news is very encouraging
 
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Dr.Acula

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So a Trump surrogate was somehow allowed access to the FBI director's computer?

Also they were able to use a non-hardened USB key to pull files?

The computer was not encrypted to Comey's login credentials?

He saved all his data locally and not on the network drives that were, again, encrypted, and again, tied to his credentials?

I don't see how that story is credible on a technical or procedural level.
 
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Hitman

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BrutishMrFish said:
Mensch, Taylor, and Schindler are not credible, guys. Come on.
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Mensch reported FISA and Trump's Oligarch Plane based on her own reporting. Credible.
Taylor reported Grand Juries, was backed by Mensch's sources. Credible.
Schindler has been sounding the Assange is a Russian assett alarm bell months before US IC confirms it. Credible.
 
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