Sho_Nuff82
Member
Ahahahahahaha I'm sorry this is too much for me this morning.
Oxford student spared jail after stabbing boyfriend had two other assault charges.
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Ahahahahahaha I'm sorry this is too much for me this morning.
Dash_Riprock
Member
Some people need to learn when they've lost. Jesus...
EatinOlives
Member
It's comedic that they say "I care about the two" and then IMMEDIATELY downplaying the victim's situation.
WrenchNinja
Member
someone intentionally stabbing a person is definitely equivalent to you being pushed and accidentally falling over
Air Zombie Meat
Member
No one would be defending a man that had a history of assaulting and stabbing their partners.
EdibleKnife
Member
Would that manage to make a single fuck of difference to you if you were in his position? You care about both of them except maybe the guy's physical wounds weren't that harsh and you'll just ignore the fact that it was a traumatic experience mentally as much as a physical one. But maybe it wasn't that bad and also minorities won't stop being treated unfairly just because this woman gets a harsh punishment.
Give me a break
PaulExcellent
Member
With this comparison, I gotta ask.
Are you 5?
NVM, I just realized this was just a sad dude trolling. Fell for it.
It's not shocking that Heckler456 is the one doing it. Post history on race and racism is quite interesting.
Dash_Riprock
Member
No one would be defending her either if she was fat and/or ugly. Reminds of the Casey Anthony Defense Force I saw pop up everywhere on other forums.
AlexFlame116
Member
I still can't believe that she originally got off free because she was an aspiring doctor.
Yep. I was baffled.
Ah it's you. You were one of the posters back then attacking everyone about this and doing your best to defend her.
LostCaress
Member
She can't be that smart. If she was, she would've waited a few years and would've been able to stab people in the heart legally.
Depends on what aspect we were discussing in regards to the punishment. There is certainly many things we could stand to fix with the justice system in America (certainly to the benefit of many criminals as well as society), and I'm sure the same is true in the UK.
Heckler456
Banned
I would, depending the circumstances.
This isn't a win-lose thing. It's me voicing my opinion. I'm sure there are others out there who'd agree with me, but who in their right mind would come into these threads when they largely result in the minority opinion being ridiculed and overwhelmed by nigh-on aggressive responses? Don't worry, have fun in here. I'm heading out.
Abilidebob
Member
"Well Judge, you see, the defendant here only semi-raped the victim. Do we even know how severely scared the victim is? Just a few decades of psychological help and the victim will be fine. The defendant is a cancer researcher, and he only semi-raped the victim twice before, so you can see how putting him in jail would be bad for society!"
YIKES
Raylan Targaryen
Member
Thanks for the advice. I'm gonna tell my kids to want to be lawyers and doctors when they grow up so they can murder people and get off free because of their chosen career path.
WrenchNinja
Member
I doubt people would be ridiculing your opinion if you didn't say so much dumb shit
EdibleKnife
Member
Maybe you should do your own self a favor and stop coming into these topics in the first place with pitiful stances then you wouldn't have to run away when people, rightly, call you out on them.
A person getting away with stabbing someone because she lives a life of extraordinary privilege mainly down to the fact she is white.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
Actually I'll revise that. If the guy was a famous sportsman or celebrity there'd probably be a defence force.
You're an idiot.
On topic, I hope this information is solidified in her file for all future employers to see during background checks. She shouldn't be allowed to practice medicine if she can't uphold the Hippacratic Oath in her personal life.
Wow. I know this is quite different, but it reminded me of this for some reason: too rich for prison (A summary: a kid is spared 20 years in jail because he's rich even tho he killed 4 people in a drunk driving accident)
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Oh sure you fucking care about the dude. I can tell how much you care in this post. But hey the stabber needs love too right?
Not racist!
Squirrel Killer
Member
Not to get too MRA-y, but it sounds like there's a dash of female-on-male domestic violence denial going on here too.
They decided to express a scummy opinion.
Smells like a duck, quacks like a duck...
Anyway the OP is misleading.
There were 2 type of defenders.
There were the ones who tried arguing the same ting the judge did and there were those who thought she should be convicted but the judges decision wasn't based on white privilege but class only.
It felt like the white privilege discussion is what got that thread locked because that's what most of the dramatic and most acerbic statements were about.
Dude, we had people defending pedophilia here. This is Easy mode to some.
On-topic, it's scary how some people can get away with awful shit due to their skin color, beauty or bank account size. The world is such an unfair place.
I do all the time. I think it's the way you are getting so defensive that makes you an easy target. Do you believe in rehabilitative prison philosophy? Community based policing? How deep have you looked into this stuff?
Because there's a good section of GAF on either side of that issue, and we tend to have fun discussions on the subject whenever the latest controversial sentencing/story comes out. The subject of the death penalty also has a strong GAF contingent who is pro-death penalty (otherwise known as "Blood lust GAF").
Trust me there are things I'd say about the way to redesign how penal system that would certainly make some GAFers aghast, but I'm confident in my ideas here because it is something I've studied and researched for years and so I'm quite familiar with the statistics and evidence in support of my claim.
Ultimately, is your whole argument "she should not be given prison because she could become a surgeon and save lives"? I guess my issue is that this on its face does not seem a compelling reason to overlook the other extenuating circumstances. What makes you believe this is enough?
Abilidebob
Member
Wait what
See, I think there is a good argument that provided the injury is not severe (like no permanent life long debilitation, just scar tissue) and that some punishment is received (several years in jail for such a repeat offender, surely) that this is them paying debt to society and that society would only benefit from that individual being able to properly reintegrate and potentially save lives w/ their surgeon skill.
That's a nuanced layer I could fuck with, not this allowing her to avoid punishment but allowing her to not have it forever hanging over her head after she serves her appropriate time.
In other words, I would hope it wouldn't end your career either. I would hope we can eventually live in a society where the punishment itself is what you do to pay for a crime, not have an albatross hung around your neck for the rest of your living days. Sometimes people change drastically, and it's unfair to that older version of you that some serious mistake will forever follow you even though you did the time and repaid your debt to society.
And I would want all people treated this way within the system. With very few, rare exceptions, I don't think it should be legal for your employer to seek out your criminal background. The damage this does to society at large is pretty much incalculable. This alone provides such a foundation for constant recidivism that there will never be a way to properly count the destruction and price society has paid for this mistake.
TheSpoiler
Member
If you have to make statements like "they are probably fine" for abuse victims it might be time to stop posting.
once a GAFer defended the dancing boys of Afghanistan by saying "it is their culture, what right do I have to judge?"
Look up the dancing boys of Afghanistan if you want to puke
The latest Milo Yiannopoulous threads (at least the ones about his opinions on pedophilia and his resignation from Breitbart) had this. I can look up the links if you want, but I assure you it wasn't nice.
Abilidebob
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AlexFlame116
Member
That sounds like a rabbit hole that I DON'T want to go down in.
All doctors in the UK have to provide 'enhanced disclosure' of their records. Even a minor offence could cause major problems, and has done for colleagues. What this girl has/is getting away with is unheard of. And her actions obviously speak to her temperament and character.
TimeEffect
Member
I dont understand why mentioning the gender bias would automatically be MRA. if she was a man who stabbed a woman he would be in jail wouldnt he?
Abilidebob
Member
She stabbed his leg, quite a way from the heart.
Just 5 or 6 more stabbings and she'll hit the jackpot.
Don't worry, he just has to say he wants to be a brain surgeon/astronaut/Kim kardashian and he'll be fine.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
She needs the practice, clearly.
Shadow Puppetry
Member
Makes me think of the Ivanka thread after Nordstrom and other stores pulling her products off.