JadedWriter
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Ok this makes sense. I hope you can get a good amount out of it.
NeoGAF Camera Equipment Thread | MK II
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Rentahamster
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It looks like the A9 does indeed have some banding and overheating concerns.
JadedWriter
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This is not surprising at all. I think Max Yuryev confirmed banding the week he tested it out.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I was more than willing to give Sony the benefit of the doubt, but I'll admit I raised an eyebrow when their media event had people shoot sports scenes with studio lighting (i.e. not typical real world circumstances).
It's still a very promising camera though, with very promising tech.
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Deleted member 17706
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Looking forward to seeing more detailed reviews. If it's not too bad, then the camera will still be awesome, but if it's prevalent, then that pretty much kills the camera, especially at that price point.
JadedWriter
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I shoot in such bullshit light at times I'd probably never use one of these for an event even if I could afford it. Indoor lighting is all kinds of god awful.
Rentahamster
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At this point, I assume it's not too bad. There are things you can do to combat banding and overheating, but implementing those countermeasures don't let you use the unique features of the A9 to the fullest extent, defeating the purpose of choosing it over other brands in the first place.
Yep. Especially in places where they're switching their old light bulbs for new energy efficient light bulbs with a different color temperature, but instead of replacing them all at once, they replace them as each old bulb dies out. Fuck that shit.
JadedWriter
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My office building has rooms with both tungsten and fluorescent bulbs and they of course stick the lecture podium in some alcove of the room with like no lights whatsoever. I got people standing in front of big ass LCD screens throwing highlights off horribly as well. Can be a bit of a mess to do stuff in post. Gotta turn that white clipping all the way down on top of decreasing highlights.
Rentahamster
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JadedWriter
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If you have a person standing in front of a 60inch LCD tv with 80% of it being in white it's like highlight clipping overkill. I can fix it yeah, but I don't always want to. Granted I only know shit's clipped that badly cause I have that switched on usually and it's like the dude is standing in front of a red background.
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Speaking of nasty indoor lighting, have you all encountered the issue of "flickering," or patches of dark covering portions of the photo when shooting at higher shutter speeds? Apparently it has something to do with frequency of certain light bulbs (60hz or 50hz).
I've only encountered it in a specific room in my home, but it must be brutal for people who need to shoot indoor events.
https://photographylife.com/light-frequency-issue/
I've only encountered it in a specific room in my home, but it must be brutal for people who need to shoot indoor events.
https://photographylife.com/light-frequency-issue/
JadedWriter
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So...I just got caught up on it and someone said the A9 overheated after 20 minutes of still photography. How the hell does that happen?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Old school fluorescent lighting sucks.
High ambient temps + sun = oh noes. I still want to see more reactions from other people to see if that guy's experience was an outlier or not.
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Deleted member 17706
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If you're reading the same thing that I am, he's saying that the overheating warning appeared after 20 minutes of shooting, but he kept shooting and the camera never shut down or had any issues.
Still disconcerting, of course, but there appears to be some nuance to the sensational claim.
Rentahamster
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There is a difference, but if your job depends on it, then it's unacceptable. That is a huge con that might be as large as all the other pros combined.
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Sure, but it may just be a faulty detection mechanism triggering the warning that could be fixed in an update. I think it's important to note that the camera's functionality was not compromised during the shoot.
Anyway, I always try to avoid first gen products, and this seems especially true with companies like Sony and Apple. I bet the A9 Mark II will be great.
JadedWriter
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I would not want to shoot a NYC parade for my job in 90 degree weather for about 5 hours with this thing. My D7100 survived my whole parade rotation no problem last summer.
The_Inquisitor
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Hey Photog GAF. I am ready to get back into photography. I want to go mirrorless on my new body so the Sony A6000 is my primary target. I used be a Canon guy with a primary kit of a 70-200mm F/4L and 50mm f/1.8. I'm not sure what glass would be appropriate start with. My first big use case would be my trip to Greece in July to visit my family. So something wide would probably be good. Thanks for your advice.
milkham
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I've probably asked this before but you guys with a bunch of gear, how do you store it?
Right now my stuff is strewn across camera bags, bookshelves and laying on my desk.
I've been trying to find a solution that's like a trunk or case I can put everything into and slide under my bed or something. I don't need (can't afford) something like a Pelican as I won't be travelling with it.
I keep coming across this company, SRA Cases's products on Amazon and from all the reviews it seems like they're held together with spit and optimism. I don't need a lot of durability though, so they might work.
I'm curious what you guys do before I start spending money.
Right now my stuff is strewn across camera bags, bookshelves and laying on my desk.
I've been trying to find a solution that's like a trunk or case I can put everything into and slide under my bed or something. I don't need (can't afford) something like a Pelican as I won't be travelling with it.
I keep coming across this company, SRA Cases's products on Amazon and from all the reviews it seems like they're held together with spit and optimism. I don't need a lot of durability though, so they might work.
I'm curious what you guys do before I start spending money.
JadedWriter
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Fuji is pretty much comparable to the Sony's with better build quality with an actual dedication to crop sensor. So if you can swing it look at an X-T1, just get the 18-55 F.2.8-F4 kit lens and you should be fine for travel.
Google is killing Nik.
https://www.dpreview.com/news/9649959407/google-will-no-longer-develop-nik-collection
What a fucking waste. The least they could do is open source it.
https://www.dpreview.com/news/9649959407/google-will-no-longer-develop-nik-collection
What a fucking waste. The least they could do is open source it.
ElectricKaibutsu
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Does anyone know why Sony's e-mount lenses would go up in price? I've been keeping an eye on the SEL35F18 for my a6000. It's been $400 for awhile on Amazon and suddenly jumped up to $450. Are these kind of price fluctuations normal?
theepicoftyler
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https://camelcamelcamel.com/Sony-SEL35F18-35mm-Prime-Fixed/product/B0096W1P5W
Looks like it's spent much more time at $450 than at $400. Probably just goes on sale for $400 every once in awhile.
ElectricKaibutsu
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Lasthope106
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You might still be able to find it at $400 on ebay. I got mine from Adorama and they included a cleaning kit and other goodies. Also ebay does their 10% off once in a while.
Astral/H3X
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Dunno if this got answered, but Monoprice makes, more or less, Pelican cases for like half the price. That might end up being a better value for you.
Is it okay to post for recommendations?
I'm a complete noob at photography and I shouldn't even own a camera in the first place. With that being said, I'll be making some traveling soon and I want to take some beautiful pictures. My budget is $500-600. I just want to be able to take a beautiful high resolution picture. What camera is recommended for this purpose?
1. What is your budget budget?
$500-600
2. Main purpose of the camera?
Take pictures for personal use and try to become better at it. I want high resolution pictures. Does this make sense? I want to take 4k images?
3. What form factor is most appealing to you?
No preference. As long as it is comfortable to use
4. Will you be investing in the camera? (buying more stuff for it later)
Not sure. I'd like to be able to zoom though. Is buying stuff worth it? What are somethings i can buy to take a better picture?
5. Any cameras you've used before or liked?
Not "used" per se, but the Nikon's on display at Best Buy were pretty nice! i really don't have a brand bias. I just want whats best for me.
I'm a complete noob at photography and I shouldn't even own a camera in the first place. With that being said, I'll be making some traveling soon and I want to take some beautiful pictures. My budget is $500-600. I just want to be able to take a beautiful high resolution picture. What camera is recommended for this purpose?
1. What is your budget budget?
$500-600
2. Main purpose of the camera?
Take pictures for personal use and try to become better at it. I want high resolution pictures. Does this make sense? I want to take 4k images?
3. What form factor is most appealing to you?
No preference. As long as it is comfortable to use
4. Will you be investing in the camera? (buying more stuff for it later)
Not sure. I'd like to be able to zoom though. Is buying stuff worth it? What are somethings i can buy to take a better picture?
5. Any cameras you've used before or liked?
Not "used" per se, but the Nikon's on display at Best Buy were pretty nice! i really don't have a brand bias. I just want whats best for me.
VisceralBowl
Member
a note on resolution
Your phone probably already takes higher than "4k" resolution pictures. I wouldn't worry too much about resolution with more modern cameras.
Your phone probably already takes higher than "4k" resolution pictures. I wouldn't worry too much about resolution with more modern cameras.
milkham
Member
Thank you! I didn't know monoprice made these I'll look into it.
JadedWriter
Member
Keep in mind the stuff in your budget are not the "nice" Nikon's. You can get a Panasonic G7 at that price and a Fuji X-T10. If you want DSLR still you can most likely still grab a D5500 or go for a refurb D7100 depending on what you find.
StopMakingSense
Member
Man, pour one out.
Capture NX2 still secret best RAW converter, still miss using it despite a lot of its tech falling into other Nik plugins.
So tomorrows arrives my D750...Im like a kid before christmas
opticalmace
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So tomorrows arrives my D750...Im like a kid before christmas
Nice! What lens(es)?
JadedWriter
Member
I'd actually pair this with my 810 for events. My 600 AF definitely leaves much to be desired for some of my events.So tomorrows arrives my D750...Im like a kid before christmas
A Nikkor 50mm F1.4 and a 24-120 F4. I wasn't sure about that last one, but it was cheap, so lets see how it goes.
JadedWriter
Member
The 24-120 is good enough for what it is though I've heard the 50 1.4 isn't even a good lens. You honestly should've gotten a Tamron 35 1.8 or the Nikon 85 1.8.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I feel like the first budget primes someone considers for full frame Nikon include:
Rokinon 14mm f2.8
Nikon 35mm f2
Nikon 85mm f1.8
Tokina 105mm f2.8
Rokinon 14mm f2.8
Nikon 35mm f2
Nikon 85mm f1.8
Tokina 105mm f2.8
Mirrorless vs DSLR in a nutshell?
JadedWriter
Member
Really depends on what you want to do. Something maybe slightly more portable with focus peaking for manual focus and better video capabilities go mirrorless. If size doesn't matter to you and you're primarily a stills person then DSLR. Granted most mirrorless camera's are either micro 4/3rds or crop sensor. Anything full frame is out of your budget.
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
I'll check it out, thx. I was planning on getting a used one through Amazon Warehouse Deals. That's how I got my a6000 and 55-210mm. They have a good return policy.
jongkookie
Member
Nah.
The 1.4 "isn't good" because the 1.8 is really good to begin with.
The biggest difference between the 1.8 and 1.4 is the bokeh quality(besides the ability to shoot with less light of course).
Shoot at 2.8 with the 1.8 and the DOF is less shallow.
With a 1.4, the DOF at 2.8 is as shallow as the 1.8 when shooting at 1.8.
But in terms of color rendition and sharpness, both are pretty dang close imo.
Knew this would happen when they bought them out. They were probably thinking that they could turn Snapseed into a Instagram competitor (or use some of its IP for a separate app) but a loss of focus and a management change later the whole operation is now seen as a dead weight to their bottom line. Sad.
Astral/H3X
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb9hEeEe8OI
Things to note: he doesn't go into Mirrorless having a supermassive black hole of advantage in regards to using vintage, MF lenses, or that MILC's have the advantage in learning manual shooting, as it'll show you roughly what your exposure will look like before you fire away.
Also I hate OVF but that's purely personal.
This video goes over what EVF's can do, though keep in mind the "lag" bit will vary from camera to camera.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyjnDnaWINE
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
The "bulky and heavy" disadvantage of DSLRs go away once you start using pro lenses. You can make the electronics smaller, but there is only so much you can do with the physics of glass.
However, that is not a concern for Kurt's budget anyway.
However, that is not a concern for Kurt's budget anyway.
Astral/H3X
Member
Nor is it a concern if you like prime lenses. There are professional lenses other than 28-70 and 70-200.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
mirrorless is slightly smaller and more compact but supposedly at the cost of reduced image quality.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Nah, the image quality is just fine. Unless we're talking about cheap point and shoots which I guess would technically be mirrorless.
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