Raylan Targaryen
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He doesn't give a fuck about anyone in this thread. Why are people supposed to care about him? Cuz he has cancer?
Millions of people have cancer and he's helping to try and make their lives worse. Not everyone deserves pity
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John McCain has Brain Cancer
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Millions of people have cancer and he's helping to try and make their lives worse. Not everyone deserves pity
eBay Huckster
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funny, because this is all i can say about all the tone policing this thread already has after six pages.
like, keep on pissing yourselves because people are actually taking his policy actions into account when deciding what to post!
Puck Beaverton
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yeah I'm the one that is definitely appreciating the irony of McCain getting cancer. You got me.
Dude.
Do you know the amount of racists who don't think they're beliefs cause harm?
"Man, I would love to hire Li Zhong but her name is too hard to say and what if she brings something stinky to the breakroom."
Intent doesn't matter when you disregard every single indication that your actions are wrong. Knowingly giving someone who's allergic to peanuts a peanut butter cookie because you think allergies are bullshit is considered at least manslaughter in most states.
Aaronology
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Answer me this: Would you wish McCain a speedy recovery if it was a given he would subsequently be instrumental in passing the GOP Healthcare bill?
Here's the reality. McCain is a political terrorist helping to steer the speeding, out of control bus that is the GOP bill into a crowd full innocent Americans. This needs emphasis and reiteration: McCain would knowingly act in a way that would kill millions. Millions! Bin Laden killed a few thousand and he's rightfully vilified for eternity. McCain and the GOP intend to beat that high score many times over. I'm not going to wish a dude holding my life and my family's lives on the line to "get well soon".
On the contrary, there happens to be a particular Pocahontas gif that better expresses my opinion on this news.
Just waiting for the Trump tweet. "I don't like people who get cancer."
You can be for universal healthcare and still judge people by the assholes they are.
Funny, that's what I get from your posts.
Hey, I should apologize. I wrote that in the context of, that I believe "how" we win is super important. Not stooping to the same levels as the alt-right, etc.
I did not intend to downplay the reality of what this country is facing today. Losing the election to Trump and his goons is a nightmare come true, and millions are suffering or are in fear of this insane administration; you are absolutely spot on that the stakes are high. Also, shit is crazy. I certainly can't act like I have answers, but I believe its important that we be better and do better.
psynergylover
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Didn't Jimmy Carter get through whatever he had?
I'm assuming brain cancer is more lethal?
If his cancer was born in the last couple weeks, it's a cancer.
it's cool, he bombed people in his plane in the vietnam war
he is an actual mass murderer
Explain.
bombs? people die from bombs? vietnam civilians were targets of his bombings?
dunno what part is not clear
No, you.
plagiarize
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Of course. But if your first reaction to the news someone you don't like has cancer is to go "well fuck that guy still" I'd advise some self reflection.
No one should have to suffer brain cancer. We will win the war of ideals. I believe that. I wish cancer on no one.
If we need people to get sick or die for our ideals to move forwards (and trust me, we don't need that) then you lack compassion. Dehumanizing people who disagree with us isn't healthy and it doesn't win debates.
What goes through your mind when you think that this is the place to call soldiers murderers?
He was the lone reason of this occuring?
Thousands of Americans did that. Are they mass murders too? Not to mention a lot of Americans were drafted into that war and lied to by the government about it.
John McCain was held as a POW and tortured by the Vietnamese, as far as I'm concerned he should be forgiven for anything he may have done in the Vietnam war.
Subpar Spatula
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I don't see what's wrong with appreciating the irony. People rightfully see this man as a terrible human being. You're not going to convince people to be nice to a person who has tried repeatedly to strip them of healthcare and general life standards. Cancer doesn't differentiate between good and bad people but we can.
Hierophant
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You can tell who treats politics as a game in this thread and not something that affects the lives of millions
It's really similar to if an rival team member got an injury "He's a good player and an honorable man I hope he recovers soon!"
Except politics isn't a game and John McCain has continuously voted to adversely affect millions of people
It's really similar to if an rival team member got an injury "He's a good player and an honorable man I hope he recovers soon!"
Except politics isn't a game and John McCain has continuously voted to adversely affect millions of people
Not all cancer is created equal
No. He's also not the lone reason millions of people will die if the ACA is repealed without improvement.
You can't actually be this dense.
Maybe you should tell this to the GOP instead of playing the tone police. I'm pretty sure they'd serve you a piping hot plate of bull shit in response.
I've got compassion for people who deserve compassion.
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My uncle who I was incredibly close with died from this a few years ago. It crushed everyone around him. His kids, extended family, friends, etc. Why not take a step back and try to sympathize with what his family is going to go thru. Some of the posts full of just venom are fucking embarrassing.
100% lethal. Glioblastomas are relentless. They probably dropped radioactive strips right on the tumor site while he was open, and the cancer will all but laugh them off.
I would rather Democrats get a majority, and I think this extreme response to others would further result in a lack of communication between parties and if anything benefit the GOP.
TheLostBigBoss
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i mean his family is a pretty terrible group of people too
plagiarize
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You think I don't?
psynergylover
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I know, just hoping for some miracle.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Killing in war is not generally considered to be murder unless it is knowingly and willingly committed against unarmed non-combatants sans any military justification. Paul Tibbets is manifold worse than Timothy McVeigh, going by that logic, but I think the breakdown here is obvious, no?
His war record caused people to die of health care?
SolarPowered
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Well, I guess that explains why he has seemed off the last few weeks.
DrForester
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Trump will tweet about how McCain should resign so his seat can be filled.
Fucking hell.
Just because someone is an asshole doesn't mean horrible shit like cancer or watching a loved one die should happen to them.
I feel for his family. That doesn't mean I can't tell him to fuck off for nearly destroying millions of other people's lives to give the rich a tax break.
Man remember that time we committed a bunch of mass murders of Nazis in Germany, I sure hope we jailed all those American soldiers
Lol that's cute. Oh he is a pow so let's cut him some slack same shit if ISIS nutjobs get capture?
not all soldiers are murderers. most american people participating in the vietnam war were drafted into it, lied to by their government that this was a just war that they had to join
not mccain; he joined the navy willingly, he then he asked for combat and then he willingly participated in bombings of civilian targets
not the same
please stop fetishizing troops
what was the justification of the vietnam war again? if you don't consider the vietnam war justified...he murdered civilians knowingly and willingly sans any military justification
I mean, I am sure you will try to weasel him out. sure, he would not be declared guilty in any court of war, sure
he still willingly flew a plain to drop bombs on vietnamese civilians for a war that made no sense
Our civility is one of the traits that separate us. If nothing else, it is worth the exercise of being the bigger person.
Hierophant
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I like how you're equating the murder of Vietnamese civilians to murdering Nazis
You argue like a first year philosophy major failing at employing the Socratic method. Do better.
Racism and discrimination are objectively immoral.
Believing a market based take to healthcare is subjective. And the ideal implementation to it is not very clear, probably a combination of socialized medicine and market forces. I'm not an expert on it by any means but I know enough to spot a faulty analogy.
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