Mass shooting at the Mandalay Bay Las Vegas; 58 dead, 500+ injured.

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It's been said plenty but after Sandy Hook I don't see any level of mass murder making people change their minds.

i think it's possible (though i'm not sure how likely) that there being videos of mass shootings (now and going forward) could make them have a different effect on people than something like Sandy Hook.

the videos of this are terrifying. the sound of automatic weapons fire is terrifying. as dumb as it is, people might be more affected by something like this where this is audio/video than Sandy Hook. that's just part of our nature, i think. maybe wishful thinking on my part, but i was shook after watching a couple of those cell phone videos.
 
Anyone else seen that clip on Sky News where a girl said a woman was escorted out by security for getting in the front row of the concert and telling everyone they were 'going to die' about 45 minutes before the shooting started?

Just Vegas drunkenness?
 
I hope everyone gets the help (medical and financial) they need, but as someone living in a country with healthcare this seems such an odd sentence.

It is.
There are entire reports on how broken our healthcare system is can be partly defined by just how much crowdfunding is solely dedicated to medical expenses.
 
Anyone else seen that clip where a girl said a woman was escorted out by security for getting in the front row of the concert and telling everyone they were 'going to die' about 45 minutes before the shooting started?

Just Vegas drunkenness?

Some people make up shit for attention.
Or it’s just a weird coinsidence
 
I'm not sure why anyone would have anxiety over firearm purchases when you have total Republican ownership of the top echelons of government. Seems like a dumb reason to 'stock up'.

I'm not sure why anyone would have anxiety over firearm purchases when the slaughter of children resulted in the expanding of gun ownership and gun rights.
 
I think what bothers me the most is when people say “Common sense gun control legislation wouldn’t have prevented THIS shooting.” Ok, maybe that’s true, but if common sense gun legislation only prevents one death from now until the end of time, then it still would have been worth it. You should not be willing to trade even just one person’s life in exchange for being able to buy a gun a bit more easily.
 
I think what bothers me the most is when people say “Common sense gun control legislation wouldn’t have prevented THIS shooting.” Ok, maybe that’s true, but if common sense gun legislation only prevents one death from now until the end of time, then it still would have been worth it. You should not be willing to trade even just one person’s life in exchange for being able to buy a gun a bit more easily.

But my toy's!
 
Anyone else seen that clip on Sky News where a girl said a woman was escorted out by security for getting in the front row of the concert and telling everyone they were 'going to die' about 45 minutes before the shooting started?

Just Vegas drunkenness?

It was bullshit.
 
I hope everyone gets the help (medical and financial) they need, but as someone living in a country with healthcare this seems such an odd sentence.

It's beyond nuts. Only country where this bullshit happens so consistently and then when it does happen the victims have to setup fucking GoFundMe pages for their healthcare? That's our country failing them twice.
 
Oh! My bad, I completely missed that.

If he had zero motivation that'd be absolutely terrifying.
People broadcasting every idea and intent they have to the world has really only emerged in the past decade with social media. As soon as I saw the shooter's age, I knew there would be way less of a digital footprint than you see with younger murderers and terrorists. He had a reason, but he wasn't routinely discussing it with other people. If he was religiously or politically inactive like a lot of Americans, there may be scant information in his home that would help authorities understand his motivation.
 
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America as a country is incredibly fucked. I have no idea how they're supposed to rebuild for the better. You have the nonsense like this photo where people thinking mass killings is justified because "MUH GUNZ TO PROTEK FROM GUBMENT" (never mind that they're disregarding the context of the times the amendment was written. People love to be disingenuous to avoid the tougher conversation aka realizing that beating arms is an archaic concept). To put gun rights above the human life is archaic, absolutely devoid of any rationality, and frankly a degenerate idea. You also have the nonsense in the past few weeks where people have similarity put nationalism, patriotism above human life in an effort to avoid having tough but necessary discourse on the quality of life of the average American.

All this shit in the past year, seems to point at the idea that America may actually be more fascist than they think. But because they avoid the dialogue and drink the Kool-Aid of intense patriotism and fabricated superiority, they turn a blind eye to the reality unfolding before their very eyes. And everyday I thank my parents that they never emigrated to the USA.
 
I'll never get over how the alt right were quick to blame a Geary Danley for this mess even so far as to create a briedbart wiki page accusing him on the basis that he liked Rachel Maddox.

I fucking hate people so much
 
I think what bothers me the most is when people say “Common sense gun control legislation wouldn’t have prevented THIS shooting.” Ok, maybe that’s true, but if common sense gun legislation only prevents one death from now until the end of time, then it still would have been worth it. You should not be willing to trade even just one person’s life in exchange for being able to buy a gun a bit more easily.

People in this country absolutely do not understand statistical analysis and behavior mitigation.
 
Anyone else seen that clip on Sky News where a girl said a woman was escorted out by security for getting in the front row of the concert and telling everyone they were 'going to die' about 45 minutes before the shooting started?

Just Vegas drunkenness?
Unless there are multiple reports of this, disregard.
 
I hope everyone gets the help (medical and financial) they need, but as someone living in a country with healthcare this seems such an odd sentence.

I don't see a scenario where MGM Resorts International, the City of Las Vegas, and private donations don't cover the majority of the victim's immediate financial needs, even if the federal government doesn't get involved.
 
So not only will these people be traumatized for life they’ll possibly go bankrupt.

America.

The affordable care act put a cap on annual out of pocket costs. I believe it's 14k for a family and 7k for an individual on the exchange this year. So that is the most the victims will be liable for. If the ACA is repealed though you can waive goodbye to protections like that, especially if you live in a red state.
 
The assaulter's brothers seems really cool, tried his best to answer questions and give background despite being bombarded with mics. Hope he can recover from this shock.
 
So if you can't buy illegal weapons where the hell would the man have got them? Is the black market really that prolific a normal guy can just grab an AR? This has to be the most horrifying & peculiar mass shooting of all time.
 
So if you can't buy illegal weapons where the hell would the man have got them? Is the black market really that prolific a normal guy can just grab an AR? This has to be the most horrifying & peculiar mass shooting of all time.

He was apparently a multi-millionaire, so I wouldn't really consider him a "normal guy" in regards to his buying power.
 
Anyone else seen that clip on Sky News where a girl said a woman was escorted out by security for getting in the front row of the concert and telling everyone they were 'going to die' about 45 minutes before the shooting started?

Just Vegas drunkenness?

Yellow Journalism
 
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