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SLoWMoTIoN
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I'd buy Diablo 2 again for the Switch.
GOG and Blizzard bring Diablo 1 back from the dead, Warcraft 1 and 2 to follow
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Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
I just woke up. Is this a dream?
A few weeks ago, I fished out my old burnt copy of Diablo from my shed because I had the itch to play it and it wasn’t available anywhere to buy digitally. I even downloaded an old dodgy nocd patch too. Never got around to playing it though.
This is great! So bought. I’m going to buy Warcraft 2 as well, even though I still own it on CD.
A few weeks ago, I fished out my old burnt copy of Diablo from my shed because I had the itch to play it and it wasn’t available anywhere to buy digitally. I even downloaded an old dodgy nocd patch too. Never got around to playing it though.
This is great! So bought. I’m going to buy Warcraft 2 as well, even though I still own it on CD.
Technical question:
It's been a long time since I've worried about Direct IP support, and I never understood how UPNP worked.
If I have a public-facing IP address to my NAT gateway, do I still need to set up port forwarding to my PC running the new version of Diablo if I want to play the new version in multiplayer, or will UPNP automagically handle the NAT traversal?
It's been a long time since I've worried about Direct IP support, and I never understood how UPNP worked.
If I have a public-facing IP address to my NAT gateway, do I still need to set up port forwarding to my PC running the new version of Diablo if I want to play the new version in multiplayer, or will UPNP automagically handle the NAT traversal?
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
Cool, excited for this and Warcraft 2 in particular.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Diablo 1 is rough as fuck. I don't see why anyone would want to play that (I'm talking SP, as I never did Battle.net kind of stuff).
After my bros and I played through the game the first few times, few were done and bored. Combines that with archaic town walking and needing to pick up gold one by one and town portal scrolls, it's not age well even after playing it a few playthroughs 20+ years ago. It's aged even worse now.
After my bros and I played through the game the first few times, few were done and bored. Combines that with archaic town walking and needing to pick up gold one by one and town portal scrolls, it's not age well even after playing it a few playthroughs 20+ years ago. It's aged even worse now.
Mochilador
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Hari Seldon
Member
So does it have the OG 90s yahoo chat style battle.net thing? I might get it just for that haha.
Revolutionary
Member
Diablo 1 has been abandonware for years - meaning it was perfectly legal to download it for free. Now you get the privilege of paying Activision $10 for a 20+ year old game, and the profits will reach absolutely no one that actually worked on the game. Fuck that.
Again, this is PERFECTLY OKAY to download:
https://archive.org/details/Diablo_1996_Blizzard
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Hinedorf
Banned
Kinda feels like the way Blizzard is conducting business they're too afraid to actually put the time necessary into a new IP that their corporate overlords wont give them the time and creativity they're accustomed to which brought us their past gems.
So they'll play it safe with a retread that takes minimal effort to make quick cash that keeps them afloat. Don't worry though I'm sure they're going to bounce back because we've all got cellphones right?
Keep this in mind, StarCraft 2 Blizzards last big single player game was essentially broken into 3 full price campaigns that that in comparison to Starcraft 1 was 3 campaigns IN ONE PURCHASE.
Blizzard has been Nickel and Diming their fans for well over a decade, now they're not even trying.
Give me a new IP I'll be a Day1 buyer just based on your past history, give me a retread and I'll do business elsewhere
So they'll play it safe with a retread that takes minimal effort to make quick cash that keeps them afloat. Don't worry though I'm sure they're going to bounce back because we've all got cellphones right?
Keep this in mind, StarCraft 2 Blizzards last big single player game was essentially broken into 3 full price campaigns that that in comparison to Starcraft 1 was 3 campaigns IN ONE PURCHASE.
Blizzard has been Nickel and Diming their fans for well over a decade, now they're not even trying.
Give me a new IP I'll be a Day1 buyer just based on your past history, give me a retread and I'll do business elsewhere
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SkinnerSw33t
Member
The GOG support is what you're paying for, which as someone mentioned earlier is likely why Blizz went this route.
If you're fighting the machine, then good on you, but if you want to own Diablo in a library and play it from time to time with minimal hassle, it's worth a tenner.
ZehDon
Gold Member
It caters to the niche that Diablo Immortal ignores and pissed off. This is a way of reminding people what Diablo was, is, and could be again.
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Revolutionary
highlighted, Diablos been around for a while. For me, with the work going into the DX version, this version is worth paying for.
Revolutionary
Member
Maybe I was a bit too harsh and hasty in saying this isn't good news. I see now that there's actually been some effort put into the launcher by GOG.
That said, there's little hassle in mounting an iso of the original game (especially on Windows 10 which has a built in virtual drive function) and running it in compatability mode if necessary. But I digress, if people want to pay for a little more convenience then that's their choice I suppose.
I do wonder what will happen to the abandonware version, though.
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SkinnerSw33t
Member
It caters to the niche that Diablo Immortal ignores and pissed off. This is a way of reminding people what Diablo was, is, and could be again.
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OK. Don't disagree. But kind of bypasses the point I was making. The idea that this is a PR move doesn't seem likely to me.
sol_bad
Member
Abandonware does not make it legal.
From your link:
to Jurannok, a Blizzard representative on their Support Forums, the game has been discontinued and Blizzard has no current plans to update it or start selling it again. Sources:
As far as I am concerned, that makes Diablo 1 abandonware, so feel free to download this iso, legally.
Obviously Blizzard changed their mind and so it 100% is no longer abandonware.
anthraticus
Banned
Cause the first Diablow had the best atmosphere/music/artstyle out of all of them.
BigBooper
Member
Abandonware is not a real thing. It's a made up reason people give to make them feel better morally to do something that's illegal.
It is definitely not legal to download something just because you say it's abandonware.
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sol_bad
Member
My above post was typed quickly because I was at work but now I'm on break.
So I'll just say and add that I can understand why (and I do myself) people download "abandonware" games. There is no way to buy said game and have that money go towards the developer/publisher/license holder. Buying it from someone on Ebay/3rd party seller on Amazon/Facebook does not allow that money go to the developer/publisher/license holder either. In this instance, I am morally OK with downloading the game as you can't purchase it and have that money go towards the industry.
Once/if the game gets released digitally at a later date, that is where I feel that people should start coughing up dough if they pirated it. Doesn't matter if the game used to be "abandoneware", fact is the developer/publisher/license holder has now decided to sell it and now your money can go towards the industry.
BigBooper
Member
I agree with everything you wrote here and I have done it myself. I just don't like when people make wrong and misleading statements like claiming it's not illegal.
Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
Firstly, Diablo is worth $10 (or$13.79AUD) imo.
Secondly, anybody can wait for an inevitable sale, GOG are great with those.
Thirdly, Activision are the owners of the Diablo IP. If they get the money, that is fair. If you were the second owner of a car and wanted to sell it, should the original owner get the money? No, of course not.
Revolutionary
Member
Okay, I edited the first post because I made the incorrect assumption that people would see the follow-up (a mere two posts later) where I said I was hasty in typing that up. Activision and EA bring up a rancor in me.
https://archive.org/details/Diablo_1996_Blizzard
Doesn't make it illegal, either. It's a grey ground and generally understood to be okay, hence the reason why it's hosted on archive.org and why Blizzard (and other companies in a similar situation) generally don't do anything about it.
Until they say something and/or take it down then it's perfectly okay to download from the link provided.
https://archive.org/details/Diablo_1996_Blizzard
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sol_bad
Member
Alrighty.
Perfect time for an experiment.
I will let them know about the link you provided. If it gets removed then that is them saying it's not OK. If the link stays up they are happy for the game to be pirated.
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ZehDon
Gold Member
I disagree. To me, outsourcing a barebones re-release of Diablo 1 for modern machines is an easy win that could make a little money. It’s an easy PR win that has no downside. A quiet way of telling the hardcore “we get it”.
Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
I was listening to the Bill Burr podcast today and he exclaimed “what’s with this generation?”, “always ready to tell on eachother”, “the generation of the rat”.
Right on Bill. Right on.
sol_bad
Member
It's not about "telling on him". It's about "putting your money where your mouth is".
People can pirate all they want, I live in a nation absolutely rampant with piracy everywhere. I don't report any websites ever.
I just get annoyed when people try to justify it.
Screamer-RSA
Member
Don't you guys have old PCs?!?
Good on GoG though
Good on GoG though
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JimmyRustler
Member
Got goosebumps when I started this yesterday and realized they use the same music in the first camp as in Diablo 2 (I have never played 1 so far).
Man, can't wait to give this a go once I'm done with Silent Hill.
Oh, and there is no option to run in this game, right?
Man, can't wait to give this a go once I'm done with Silent Hill.
Oh, and there is no option to run in this game, right?
ToughestSoul
Member
That's great, love Diablo!
I wonder, did they change anything besides resolution scaling and compatibilty?
I wonder, did they change anything besides resolution scaling and compatibilty?
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Revolutionary
Member
This is absolutely pathetic. You can justify it in your head all you like, but your actions show that you are little more than a rat.
FYI I paid full price for Diablo back when it was released (and pay damn near MSRP for every new game; thanks to GMG for the discounts), but sure, keep thinking you have a moral high ground here. Seems to me like you're more upset with your country's piracy problem than actually understanding the crux of the issue here. And in your 'moment' of ignorance, you may have just removed a not-illegal avenue to play a classic game for many people. Well done - I'm sure Activision will thank you for your efforts.
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Handy Fake
Member
Still sends shivers up my spine.
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Plaguecrafter
Neo Member
Handy Fake
Member
I only found it last week when I fell down the YouTube rabbithole. Took me right back to the game. Stay a while... And listen.
GenericUser
Member
the battle.net edition had online support years ago, nobody played it though.
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Deleted member 738976
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I'd prefer if they remade Warcraft 1 and 2 instead. Those games actually do need updates to how they play and control unlike Warcraft 3.
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Denton
Member
The atmosphere is ageless. Is by far the darkest and most atmospheric game in the series.
