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[Pagusas]

Seems like they did review it to me “the game is too fucking boring to finish”.

 

[Saruhashi]

Seems pretty unprofessional.

If the game is supposed to be this cinematic thing with story being an important factor then how can you get away with a review without finishing the game?

The only games this could be understandable for would be multiplayer or games like tetris etc where there is basically no "end" to the game.

How could you possibly find yourself competently reviewing a single player, story driven, experience when you haven't finished the game?

I suppose the key pieces of information here are "how long is the game" and "when did they receive their review copy".
A lot of other outlets seem to have reviewed it just fine.

Strange trend of videogame journalists trying to make the coverage about them rather than about the games.

 

[Petaya Berry]

wish i worked at a job where i could just not do my work and tell the boss i ran out of enthusiasm. must be nice to have a job with that kind of privilege.

the fact this jackass can't even do a job he is being paid for tells me more about the game than his review ever could.

It seems that you are not good at what you do either.

I'm very VERY good in my field and sometimes I said "Nope, I won't do this".

Also, you can enjoy the game when it launches, or you can continue to cry because someone on the internet disliked your virtual toy.

 

[Fake]

'I work at IT and my costumer ask help to fix his printer, but I run out enthusiasm long before my job time out'.

 

[Portugeezer]

He doesn't need to review it, we can see clearly that he doesn't like it and we have enough nuanced reviews giving opinions as to why he may or may not have liked it.

 

[nush]

I know it's different people now but i still can't take the mag seriously after this

Or their Super Metroid review that i can't find right now.

That's not the 7 out of 10 GTA III review that no wait sorry, that score was a printing error.

 

[ROMhack]

No issue with this tbh. Reviews are usually the least interesting thing about the magazine and they clearly didn't rike it.

 

[xrnzaaas]

He doesn't need to review it, we can see clearly that he doesn't like it and we have enough nuanced reviews giving opinions as to why he may or may not have liked it.

They should review it at least for the sake of meta/opencritic scores reflecting a full spectrum of opinions about the game.

It's their magazine, but it's still very unprofessional on their part. What's next? We didn't review Cyberpunk because it's a fucking 100h+ long RPG?

 

[#Phonepunk#]

It seems that you are not good at what you do either.

I'm very VERY good in my field and sometimes I said "Nope, I won't do this".

Also, you can enjoy the game when it launches, or you can continue to cry because someone on the internet disliked your virtual toy.

LOL you have no fucking clue what i do. every day i get tickets to work on. i can't just not do them. but good on you for i guess working in a field where you can pick and choose your work. not many people have that kind of autonomy. congrats on your privilege.

if your job is reviewing video games for a living, and part of that job is playing a game all the way through, and you fail to do that, then you are failing at your job. why should i listen to a "professional" opinion from someone who can't even do what they are asked?

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

Nathan Brown is a hack.

 

[PhilipDoesMatter]

Yeap. Kojima blew this up. The game, by the reviews I watched, is just a chore. Exactly like I thought it would be.

 

[Petaya Berry]

if your job is reviewing video games for a living, and part of that job is playing a game all the way through, and you fail to do that, then you are failing at your job. why should i listen to a "professional" opinion from someone who can't even do what they are asked?

Just ignore him. Don't waste your energy being angry because of that. Simple as that.
If you are still "kicking" him, his work still matter to you. Just be indifferent and forget him.

 

[ethomaz]

Yeap. Kojima blew this up. The game, by the reviews I watched, is just a chore. Exactly like I thought it would be.

Well you try to watch others reviews that says the opposite.

"I was hooked from the first time I saw the title screen until the credits rolled 72 hours later. Death Stranding is immensely satisfying, and everything I could have hoped for and more from Kojima Productions."

"Death Stranding is a masterpiece. Hideo Kojima stages a memorable adventure that will be talked about for many years to come."

There is one that made me thinks about this thread and the Edgy's journalist...

"An experiment extraordinaire, Death Stranding is a game like no other. Full of repetition and lengthy chores, yet ingenious and philosophical in its own accord. It is a sight to behold, and something you have to dedicate your whole month if you want to witness its true potential."

But the Edgy's journalist give up even being paid to not give up lol

 

[Petaya Berry]

Well you try to watch others reviews that says the opposite.

Like Just Push Start or The Sixth Axis?

 

[stranno]

I know it's different people now but i still can't take the mag seriously after this

25 years later, Doom still a trend because it requires online activation, lol.

I dont remember the EDGE quality back then, but it had the best covers ever seen in a videogames mag.

 

[Flintty]

Would all the complainers feel better if he changed the preview into a review and put a fat 0 at the end of it?

Edit: after finishing it of course.

 

[ethomaz]

Like Just Push Start or The Sixth Axis?

There are a lot of reviews... a lot of 10s, 9s, 8s, etc... to be fair way more than lower scores because the game sits at 84 on Meta even after 71 reviews added.

It is 84 on Meta even with a 35/100 review added lol

"Death Stranding is an irredeemable piece of garbage that should serve as a warning to publishers who give developers carte blanche to create ‘art’."

 

[AlphaMale]

People review games without finishing them? Is this a common thing and I'm just super naive about it?

Reviewing before finishing a game is very common practice. I'd probably estimate it happens more often than not. (especially for longer games, 30+ hrs)

 

[Gargus]

I love Edge Magazine, this is rather disappointing.

Never read it before but from those needlessly snarky and immature comments it doesn't sound like I am missing a thing. Really, it sounds like shit some 15 year old girl would post on Facebook.

 

[Petaya Berry]

There are a lot of reviews... a lot of 10s, 9s, 8s, etc... to be fair way more than lower scores because the game sits at 84 on Meta even after 71 reviews added.

It is 84 on Meta even with a 35/100 review lol

Yes, but you are just saying that "bad" reviews won't matter because there is "good" reviews out there.
And guess what, some of these "good" reviews are complaining about the same things that the "bad" reviews are.
But I know that you don't read reviews, Edmárcio. Desde os tempos do UOL...

 

[ethomaz]

Yes, but you are just saying that "bad" reviews won't matter because there is "good" reviews out there.
And guess what, some of these "good" reviews are complaining about the same things in the "bad" reviews.
But I know that you don't read reviews, Edmárcio. Desde os tempos do UOL...

Nope... you said just the bad ones matter... I corrected you that there are more than the bad ones.

"Yeap. Kojima blew this up. The game, by the reviews I watched, is just a chore. Exactly like I thought it would be."

Edit - Wait? UOL? I did never had an account there.... are you confusing guys? I used to be in very old ForumPCs but that was more about PC than games... I even take part of the staff with some articles about GPU hardware/tech... btw I love to read, everything, including reviews... I'm did not watch videos... I think it is a waste of my time.

 

[ROMhack]

Never read it before but from those needlessly snarky and immature comments it doesn't sound like I am missing a thing. Really, it sounds like shit some 15 year old girl would post on Facebook.

Edge is a good magazine. Mostly about the industry though.

 

[Zog]

I don't need to finish a game before I know if I like it or not.

I am against reviewers being told how to review a game anyway. This is how you get reviewers who care more about the game publishers than the consumers.

 

[tassletine]

No it should have that rule to every game.

Then you'll probably get more of this. As he said, they ran out of time. Literally not allowed to review the game unless they finished it.
Instead they cleverly changed the review to a preview -- which is just sidestepping the rules laid down by the publisher -- very pragmatic.

 

[ethomaz]

Then you'll probably get more of this. As he said, they ran out of time. Literally not allowed to review the game unless they finished it.
Instead they cleverly changed the review to a preview -- which is just sidestepping the rules laid down by the publisher -- very pragmatic.

They had 2 weeks.

The clearly says he run out of enthusiasms and could not finish the game.
The issue is that he is paid to finish and review the game.

I hate hour reports, it is boring, take a lot of your time, and I'm asked to do them every month... I'm paid for that... everything in my job I love it (IT) but the hour reports well these are a hell.
Can I choose to not do my hour reports? Yes if I want to not be paid or get fired.

So to put what to eat in my children' mouths I had to do every month these hours reports.
I felt every time demotivated and without enthusiasm but it is critical part of my job and I'm paid to do them.

The tweets just shows how unprofessional this guy is.
Edge should apply some disciplinary action over him.

 

[RokkanStoned]

What kinda primadonnas have game reviewers become? People used to spend time through awful and shitty games, just to review them or even just to get through the story (like Drakengard). Now a game that's basically about delivering packages is enough to break a reviewer? Oh well, the struggles with the Cuphead tutorial should've been a big enough sign. YouTubers seem far more relevant than any of the video game websites for me. Was it so hard to finish the game? It can't possibly be a 40+ hours game, so does this mean it's more like the reviewer sucked enough to get stuck for a long time?

 

[hunthunt]

The same magazine that gave a 100 to that insufferable bore-fest called Red Dead Redemption 2 is not reviewing a game because they didn't want to complete it.

I have never used reviews or read gaming "journalists" (i know that most of them know shit about development ) as a valid parameter but cmon, these guys are digging their own tomb into irrelevance with their bullshit.

 

[Deleted member 471617]

Don't give two shits about Kojima or Death Stranding but fuck Edge magazine. Below is why -

"because the embargo insisted we finish the game before we could review it"

Well, DUH. What the fuck? Seriously, fuck all the sites/magazines/youtubers who in general review games but don't actually finish the game. They can all fuck off.

 

[fermcr]

Hummm... the game was so boring they gave up finishing the game.

 

[Spukc]

The same magazine that gave a 100 to that insufferable bore-fest called Red Dead Redemption 2 is not reviewing a game because they didn't want to complete it.

I have never used reviews or read gaming "journalists" (i know that most of them know shit about development ) as a valid parameter but cmon, these guys are digging their own tomb into irrelevance with their bullshit.

call red dead redemption 2 what you want. But it has some amazing story telling.
gameplay wise it's clunky af.

i think death stranding might be the same.
only the story is vague as hell.

at least i finished red dead 2 for the story.
and i have no clue if i would say the same thing about death stranding.

 

[The Scrivener]

I didn't know Edge were butthurt. Of course there will be a review in the later issue.

 

[Fake]

They will at least review Pokemon?

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Not gonna lie, I kinda saw this coming... Hideo is a good lad and all that but man, aside from being pretty, there is nothing that's interesting to me about this game... Game? Is it a game? I couldn't even tell you. May as well be a slot machine, I have no idea.

 

[Zephir]

Back when I used to do reviews for a small/medium site, I loved to get assigned to RPGs because they were my favorite type of games, but also because I was willing to "rush" them and see their endings before starting to write a review in time for the embargo lift...this because I believe a good or a bad ending can improve or destroy the whole experience (i mean, you all remember Mass Effect 3 after all, right?)

I wish I was THIS relaxed about my duty, so I could have skipped most of games like Persona Q, Yokai Watch and Bravely Default....now I know Death Stranding is not an RPG, but it still applies

With that said, he has all the rights in the world to say that Death Stranding wasn't a good game and that annoyed him...just don't say that you didn't want to review it and called it a day

 

[Darak]

Well, the game is about being a delivery man. If you already have the kind of job you can just not do when you are not in the mood, the game is not for you.

 

[ethomaz]

I didn't know Edge were butthurt. Of course there will be a review in the later issue.

They won't it is in the OP.

 

[MagnesG]

Well at least the mags will release a 4 page preview of DS, worth 40 hours. Maybe that's the score.

 

[Portugeezer]

They can buy their own copy and publish a review after launch without finishing the game, surely there is no embargo for that. Why can't a review be in the next issue?

 

[Pejo]

Imagine if I walked into my job and said "I know my project is due by next Tuesday but I don't feel like finishing it so I cancelled the project"

 

[JimiNutz]

That's certainly a legitimate position to have. You could still spin that into a decent review imo.

There are certainly games that I drop before I'm done nowadays because they're just not good enough. But I always play enough to form a solid opinion that could easily be shared.

True, I've enjoyed games that I didn't finish.

I think it's pretty telling that a 'professional' game reviewer couldn't bring himself to finish it though. I get the argument that it's pretty unprofessional of them not to finish but if you play a substantial amount of the game and hate it then what's the point in playing any more?

 

[ethomaz]

They can buy their own copy and publish a review after launch without finishing the game, surely there is no embargo for that. Why can't a review be in the next issue?

They won't do that... it is on OP.

 

[Team Andromeda]

So the game is crap, but EDGE didn't want to say so...

 

[ethomaz]

True, I've enjoyed games that I didn't finish.

I think it's pretty telling that a 'professional' game reviewer couldn't bring himself to finish it though. I get the argument that it's pretty unprofessional of them not to finish but if you play a substantial amount of the game and hate it then what's the point in playing any more?

Do the job you are paid for?

Let's forget DS.

If a reviewer just review half of the campaign of TLOU... that is right for you knowing the strongest part of the narrative is the last act?

 

[GHG]

Preorde... I mean subscription cancelled.

 

[JCK75]

Am I supposed to be pissed that he hated the game so much he didn't want to finish it?

 

[_Ex_]

Seriously, fuck all the sites/magazines/youtubers who in general review games but don't actually finish the game. They can all fuck off.

It makes about as much sense as trusting film critics who review a movie before watching all of it. Or book critics who review a book before reading the entire novel. Or music critics who review an album before hearing the whole thing. All of that sounds ludicrous right? And yet for years, this industry has trusted the reviews of video game critics who do not, on average, finish a game before reviewing it. Deadlines are the usually cited answer. Because publications are in a rush to get their reviews out before their competitors.

 

[ethomaz]

Am I supposed to be pissed that he hated the game so much he didn't want to finish it?

If he was only a gamer... not.
But he is first a journalist and he is paid for that job.
So you need to get pissed.

It is like a journalist doing a article not checking all the story facts.... it is unprofessional.

 

[Croatoan]

My hot take, Kojima sucks and always has. Dude should just go be a bad film director like he obviously wants to.

 

[JimiNutz]

Do the job you are paid for?

Let's forget DS.

If a reviewer just review half of the campaign of TLOU... that is right for you knowing the strongest part of the narrative is the last act?

Yeah I mean I do def get the argument that they have failed to do their 'job'. That's for the owners of Edge magazine to worry about though, not me.

From my perspective I think this response from Edge provides me with enough info. The game looks quite slow in the footage that we've seen. If the game is so slow that the reviewer couldn't bring themselves to finish it then that probably tells me enough.

Re TLOU, sure the game has a huge narrative element but the point is that TLOUs gameplay is good enough that reviewers are happy to keep on playing to completion....

 

[Neff]

If a reviewer doesn't want to finish something, I think that's fair.

If a movie/game/book/show isn't grabbing you by the halfway point at least, it's doing something wrong.

I'm still buying DS.

My hot take, Kojima sucks and always has. Dude should just go be a bad film directed like he obviously wants to.

Metal Gear, Snatcher, Policenauts, Metal Gear Solid, and Metal Gear Solid V don't suck.