Who's cancelling their 3DS preorder and joining the winning team?

Naked eye 3D-S in the palm of my hand is too tempting. Plus it's like a couple of months away.

Nothing about the PSP2 interests me, really. Need to get a price though and other details.
 
it is inconceivable to me that either of them won't have enough stuff worth playing to make the unit worth owning, so the answer to the title question is "not me"
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
I'm not buying either until they're $199, but the NGP's game lineup just looks bad, not sure if I'll ever pick it up.

Yeah, 3DS definitely has the upper hand in software for now.
 
The biggest thing for me in the DS vs PSP fight was the games.

A large number of PSP's good games are just portable versions of PS3 titles. Meanwhile the DS had a larger number of unique games I felt. I also think the DS was better for puzzle games with the stylus.

The truth is most PSP games I did not feel like playing simply because I knew a superior and very similar game was available on PS3 and would be much more enjoyable.

The portability aspect doesn't really come into play since I never played a portable outside of my home since I was 13-14 years old.

This system looks great, but if the flagship games are inferior versions of Killzone and Uncharted... well I would rather play Uncharted 3 and Killzone 3 on my PS3.
 
The smart boys will wait on revisions. Because by then if either handhelds have decent game libraries that's when the games will start to come out more often and we won't be holding a 50 pound clunker of a handheld. I'm expecting DS-lite/PSP Go sleekness here.
 
Let's crank this shit up a notch.

3DS - headache inducing graphics from 2002 liked by manbabies who wear Nintendo feety pajamas and haven't seen a shader since they walked past the PS3 display at Walmart while picking up the latest wii shovelware.

PSP2 - overpriced bloated monster of a machine with no clear vision or reason to even exist, sure to be abandoned by all third parties within three hours of its launch. a definite missed opportunity by sony, which is par for the course since the only things more deluded than sony management are sony enthusiasts. anyone who buys one should probably have their assets frozen by the government as they are most likely a terrorist.
 
I'm canceling my 3DS pre-order. Launch titles are kind of underwhelming, and I really shouldn't buy a new system without exhausting all current gaming options available to me.
 
Discotheque said:
And with it's game library PSP2 will just be a useless piece of technology. lololol.

Nah but really portable PS3 games while cool isn't what I had in mind for a handheld. Development support is something Sony should be rallying for big time. Their first party is great but if that's all then meh.

Easy-porting presents a great potential for PSP2. It may barely able to handle PS3 games, but what about older PSP and PS1, PS2 titles
 
The NGP looks like a great system, but I haven't seen any games I have a damn about yet. Plus it will probably be too expensive. I see myself holding out for the first price drop. I'm still going to get a 3DS at launch.
 
Y2Kev said:
Let's crank this shit up a notch.

3DS - headache inducing graphics from 2002 liked by manbabies who wear Nintendo feety pajamas and haven't seen a shader since they walked past the PS3 display at Walmart while picking up the latest wii shovelware.

PSP2 - overpriced bloated monster of a machine with no clear vision or reason to even exist, sure to be abandoned by all third parties within three hours of its launch. a definite missed opportunity by sony, which is par for the course since the only things more deluded than sony management are sony enthusiasts. anyone who buys one should probably have their assets frozen by the government as they are most likely a terrorist.

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comedy bomb said:
I'm not really following this logic. I think what's been shown for both systems so far is pretty bland.

Yeah, agreed. Hoping the digital floodgates open up soon (ha) and show off some more engaging software.
 
canova said:
look most of us know 3D is a gimmick. Sony is one of the biggest 3D whore in the industry, for more than a year they, along with other TV manufacturers, have been pushing 3D with their TVs, and the result is nothing.
Because the TV manufacturers aren't the ones responsible for providing 3D content. On some level with all of their media, Sony is, which is why they're trying to sell those TVs.

Nintendo can make 3D games now. It doesn't mean every game will make use of such functionality but it's going to be one of the most affordable 3D products. The possibility of compelling content is the responsibility of those who want to sell the hardware (or specific technology).

Y2Kev said:
Let's crank this shit up a notch.

3DS - headache inducing graphics from 2002 liked by manbabies who wear Nintendo feety pajamas and haven't seen a shader since they walked past the PS3 display at Walmart while picking up the latest wii shovelware.

PSP2 - overpriced bloated monster of a machine with no clear vision or reason to even exist, sure to be abandoned by all third parties within three hours of its launch. a definite missed opportunity by sony, which is par for the course since the only things more deluded than sony management are sony enthusiasts. anyone who buys one should probably have their assets frozen by the government as they are most likely a terrorist.
your doing it wrong if you're not taking a seid
 
I've been fairly apprehensive about the 3DS for some reason, and really high on my PSP1... but I dunno. I think I am more likely to quit console gaming and just be exclusively handheld with stuff like this, though. Especially once the Japanese support starts rolling in hardcore.
 
comedy bomb said:
I'm not really following this logic. I think what's been shown for both systems so far is pretty bland.

The only logical thing to do is wait until E3.
 
Y2Kev said:
Let's crank this shit up a notch.

3DS - headache inducing graphics from 2002 liked by manbabies who wear Nintendo feety pajamas and haven't seen a shader since they walked past the PS3 display at Walmart while picking up the latest wii shovelware.

PSP2 - overpriced bloated monster of a machine with no clear vision or reason to even exist, sure to be abandoned by all third parties within three hours of its launch. a definite missed opportunity by sony, which is par for the course since the only things more deluded than sony management are sony enthusiasts. anyone who buys one should probably have their assets frozen by the government as they are most likely a terrorist.

You forget: Meh, I'll stick to gaming on my cellphone. The games are just as good as anything that will be available on the PSP2 or 3DS, probably better 'cause they're more original. I like the touchscreen only controls and the imaginary d-pad works great. Games are cheap or free, which I like because I know I'm getting the best developer support.
 
Willy105 said:
Yeah, 3DS definitely has the upper hand in software for now.

please correct me if I'm wrong, but they have only announced first party games and then a list of partners in Japan. Considering first party alone, the PSP2/NGP is quite a lot better than what the 3DS is offering. 3DS just has a very strong third party. We'll see how the PSP2 stacks up there.

The only thing shown by third parties here were tech demos, except for Monster Hunter 3 PSP played with full dual analog support, which is huge.
 
Y2Kev said:
Let's crank this shit up a notch.

3DS - headache inducing graphics from 2002 liked by manbabies who wear Nintendo feety pajamas and haven't seen a shader since they walked past the PS3 display at Walmart while picking up the latest wii shovelware.

PSP2 - overpriced bloated monster of a machine with no clear vision or reason to even exist, sure to be abandoned by all third parties within three hours of its launch. a definite missed opportunity by sony, which is par for the course since the only things more deluded than sony management are sony enthusiasts. anyone who buys one should probably have their assets frozen by the government as they are most likely a terrorist.
psp2 list is longer, owned
 
Plinko said:
The only logical thing to do is wait until E3.

I'll end of with a 3DS before then. Nintendo products are one of my greatest weaknesses. All I need shown/confirmed is the original Zelda in 3D and a new version of Mario Golf. The thought of illusion of depth in these games makes me salivate.

On a side note I see your avatar is a hybrid of Yoshi and the Detroit Lions. This makes you possibly the neatest person ever. Perhaps someday we can meet and have corndogs?
 
BattleMonkey said:
Well the 3DS is close to release, the PSP2 is not so all we got is some tech demos and a handful of actual game announcements. Too early to compare launch software

You are right. Perhaps the 'NGP' should have been announced at a later date (like E3), but they wanted to make sure they got their machine out into public knowledge to combat the 3DS, which launches before E3.

But still, the 3DS had slightly more games to show off during it's announcement (although four of them were ports).

Linkzg said:
please correct me if I'm wrong, but they have only announced first party games and then a list of partners in Japan. Considering first party alone, the PSP2/NGP is quite a lot better than what the 3DS is offering. 3DS just has a very strong third party. We'll see how the PSP2 stacks up there.

The only thing shown by third parties here were tech demos, except for Monster Hunter 3 PSP played with full dual analog support, which is huge.

If Sony's first party offerings will be what is used to launch the console with (instead of the opposite like Nintendo), then Sony will definitely have a better first party lineup. Paper Mario, Animal Crossing, and Mario Kart are still probably a year away.
 
Linkzg said:
please correct me if I'm wrong, but they have only announced first party games and then a list of partners in Japan. Considering first party alone, the PSP2/NGP is quite a lot better than what the 3DS is offering. 3DS just has a very strong third party. We'll see how the PSP2 stacks up there.

The only thing shown by third parties here were tech demos, except for Monster Hunter 3 PSP played with full dual analog support, which is huge.


Most of the first-party stuff from Sony is outsourced to terrible devs.
 
What both portables have to offer bores me to no end. I just can't decide which one bores me more - the one with the main sell being a lame gimmick that is barely portable and that it can play the same games I played 8 years ago, or the one with the main sell being that it can play the same games I played 5 years ago.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Most of the first-party stuff from Sony is outsourced to terrible devs.
I liked Resistance Retribution and GoW:GoO more than many Sony first party PS2 & PS3 games.
 
Opiate said:
How does the Playstation Suite evolve? How stable is online play?
These questions interest me the most.
I'm excited about Playstation Suite! I really hope they will push this. Android is getting big, and with this I may look forward to some nice gaming on android.

I'm temted to get that thing when the price is right, or when they release a smaller model. I can really notice the PSPgo working out as a tester device with their current announcements. I'm just saddened by the failed excecution of PSN. A lot of download services are in need of improvements, maybe we will see them on PSN and 3ds Ware.

3g Online Play is a mystery at this point. Looking forward to see how that turns out.
kodt said:
The biggest thing for me in the DS vs PSP fight was the games.

A large number of PSP's good games are just portable versions of PS3 titles. Meanwhile the DS had a larger number of unique games I felt. I also think the DS was better for puzzle games with the stylus.
As a mostly handheld gamer it was the perfect blend for me. But the lack of more PSP games drove me nuts. Still I played shitloads of lumines.
MisterHero said:
your doing it wrong if you're not taking a seid
he's right xD
 
The most surprising thing when comparing the two is how seemingly progressive Sony is with inputs compared to Nintendo. It's just weird to see Sony being more innovative than Nintendo, who found success entirely because they were innovative with the last two systems.

I believe it was Opiate (apologies if I get this incorrect) that brought up the disappointment with Nintendo going more for visual flair. I disagreed with that because of the analog, motion sensor and augmented reality things, that both introduce more ways of controlling the games. But it is still a bit disappointing when you think it is still using the worse resistive touch screen tech.

Sony, on the other hand, has two analog sticks, motion sensing, the cameras, multitouch capacitive touch screen, and a back touch panel. My feeble mind can only imagine using the back touch panel to simulate extra buttons, such as L2/L3/R2/R3, and the uses in Uncharted look stupid, but who knows what others can do with it. That one game where pushing the back lifts the ground looks neat.

Shit, by the end of this year I'm gonna be spending a shit ton of money on gadgets. If there is a new iphone, it will probably be more than $1K :(

ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Most of the first-party stuff from Sony is outsourced to terrible devs.

is there a list of the devs doing each game?

Uncharted is out to Bend. I know that because Bend made a better Resistance game than Insomniac and two excellent Syphon Filter games.

Don't know about the rest of the games. LBP PSP was great so if they're on LBP NGP, I'm excited for that.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Most of the first-party stuff from Sony is outsourced to terrible devs.

Other than Resistance - Nihilistic, what are those games outsourced to terrible devs?

Uncharted - Sony Bend
Wipeout - Sony Liverpool most likely (they did Wipeout PSP)
LB2 - Sony Cambridge most likely (they did LBP PSP)
Little Deviants - BigBig Studios
Killzone - Guerrilla Games most likely (they did KZ:Liberation)
Hot Shots Golf Next - Sony Japan Studio
 
Willy105 said:
You are right. Perhaps the 'NGP' should have been announced at a later date (like E3), but they wanted to make sure they got their machine out into public knowledge to combat the 3DS, which launches before E3.

But still, the 3DS had slightly more games to show off during it's announcement (although four of them were ports).



If Sony's first party offerings will be what is used to launch the console with (instead of the opposite like Nintendo), then Sony will definitely have a better first party lineup. Paper Mario, Animal Crossing, and Mario Kart are still probably a year away.

According to Mario, who works for Sidhe Interactive, Sony was soliciting third-party game footage in order to assemble a sizzle reel. They ended up not showing said reel at all.

I honestly don't know what they were thinking. Some specific, concrete third-party announcements could have done a lot to take mindshare from 3DS.
 
What it really boils down to is this:

The 3DS will let you take 3D photos of your boner.

The PSP2 will let you control games with your boner through the rear touch pad.
 
I hate the fact the 3DS doesn't focus on touch screen anymore, because the main screen isn't touch. For example on Nintendogs, instead of touching the dog directly the bottom screen is used a a mouse pad and a cursor is touching the dog instead. Games that require you to touch the game environments can't be done such as Kirby Canvas Curse, Trauma Centre, Cut the Rope and etc. PSP2 has an advantage having a proper touch screen, from the trailer wheel I have already seen a few quirky games that use touch, this was exactly what the original PSP was missing, and the problem seems to be solved.
 
Linkzg said:
I believe it was Opiate (apologies if I get this incorrect) that brought up the disappointment with Nintendo going more for visual flair. I disagreed with that because of the analog, motion sensor and augmented reality things, that both introduce more ways of controlling the games. But it is still a bit disappointing when you think it is still using the worse resistive touch screen tech.
Not sure if serious. Do you mean them being in an opiate situation before the wii came out?
 
I'll most certainly get both though I'm going to try to hold off for a few months and not go in day 1 like I always do. In my dreams I have two awesome handhelds and a gaming PC and don't have to participate in the next gen of home consoles but that probably won't happen :(
 
Y2Kev said:
Let's crank this shit up a notch.

3DS - headache inducing graphics from 2002 liked by manbabies who wear Nintendo feety pajamas and haven't seen a shader since they walked past the PS3 display at Walmart while picking up the latest wii shovelware.

PSP2 - overpriced bloated monster of a machine with no clear vision or reason to even exist, sure to be abandoned by all third parties within three hours of its launch. a definite missed opportunity by sony, which is par for the course since the only things more deluded than sony management are sony enthusiasts. anyone who buys one should probably have their assets frozen by the government as they are most likely a terrorist.
I consider myself more of a Nintendo fan and even I cringed at this one.

ouch
comedy bomb said:
What it really boils down to is this:

The 3DS will let you take 3D photos of your boner.

The PSP2 will let you control games with your boner through the rear touch pad.
I just realized for the first time ever how lewd someone could get with this feature. Pedophiles and 3D cameras...

WHAT HAS NINTENDO DONE
 
I would maybe trade in my 3000 if the trade in value wasn't so terrible ($30). Maybe there will be some trade in deals in the future for the NGP pre-orders.
 
3DS still has Resident Evil Revelations, nothing on psp2 can compare so far. I don't know why Sony held it's meeting in Japan then came out with a bunch of games in franchises Japan doesn't care about. " Look, we have a Resistance game!" RE Revelations won't be coming out till after E3 anyways, probably not till after PSP2 releases so i have time to decide and see what other games will be coming out for it.
 
Y2Kev said:
Let's crank this shit up a notch.

3DS - headache inducing graphics from 2002 liked by manbabies who wear Nintendo feety pajamas and haven't seen a shader since they walked past the PS3 display at Walmart while picking up the latest wii shovelware.

PSP2 - overpriced bloated monster of a machine with no clear vision or reason to even exist, sure to be abandoned by all third parties within three hours of its launch. a definite missed opportunity by sony, which is par for the course since the only things more deluded than sony management are sony enthusiasts. anyone who buys one should probably have their assets frozen by the government as they are most likely a terrorist.

XPERIA - Sony's iPhone killer that is as dead as their next walkman.
 
sillymonkey321 said:
3DS still has Resident Evil Revelations, nothing on psp2 can compare so far. I don't know why Sony held it's meeting in Japan then came out with a bunch of games in franchises Japan doesn't care about. " Look, we have a Resistance game!" RE Revelations won't be coming out till after E3 anyways, probably not till after PSP2 releases so i have time to decide and see what other games will be coming out for it.

It is just an announcement meeting to spoil the 3DS launch.

Would not surprise me if Nintendo returns the favour near PSP2 launch with a press conference to announce X-franchise is coming to the 3DS. (you can fill in the X)

I'm actually surprised they showed as much as they did. A lot of people expected graphs and financials with a passing mention of the PSP2 and wait till E3.
 
This is E3 2004 all over again.

Seriously though, 3DS has shown me the games that I want, NGP has yet to do that (real games, not tech demos). Call me back when it has.
 
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