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[DForce]

Most things that go woke usually go full woke on the marketing. That's when it affects the sales, because people aren't interested in identity politics for entertainment.
Perfect example is some of the recent woke movies that bombed, like Terminator Woke Fate. They went full woke on the Marketing and no one was interested in that trash.

TLOU2 didn't go full woke on the marketing, so most people have no idea that it's full of agenda driven story telling. A lot of people are in for a massive disappointment.

Trailer 1: Ellie playing the guitar
Trailer 2: The Mysterious strong woman
Trailer 3: Lesbians kissing + gameplay reveal
Trailer 4: Ellie out for revenge

This is what many people consider "woke" and pre-order sales were doing great. Will there be a large amount of cancellations after all this drama this past week? Still has yet to be determine.

If this game breaks records during the first week and gets a rating of 90+ on MC, then I don't want to hear any excuses from anyone. lol

 

[Jbomb19]

Trailer 1: Ellie playing the guitar
Trailer 2: The Mysterious strong woman
Trailer 3: Lesbians kissing + gameplay reveal
Trailer 4: Ellie out for revenge

This is what many people consider "woke" and pre-order sales were doing great. Will there be a large amount of cancellations after all this drama this past week? Still has yet to be determine.

If this game breaks records during the first week and gets a rating of 90+ on MC, then I don't want to hear any excuses from anyone. lol

Oh they'll have excuses alright. They'll say a high rating just means that critics are pushing their own "woke" agenda and/or that critics are afraid of seeming noninclusive. And if it gets bad reviews they'll say its because the game was pushing a "woke" agenda. Either way, they'll feel vindicated.

 

[Temp0]

Trailer 1: Ellie playing the guitar
Trailer 2: The Mysterious strong woman
Trailer 3: Lesbians kissing + gameplay reveal
Trailer 4: Ellie out for revenge

This is what many people consider "woke" and pre-order sales were doing great. Will there be a large amount of cancellations after all this drama this past week? Still has yet to be determine.

If this game breaks records during the first week and gets a rating of 90+ on MC, then I don't want to hear any excuses from anyone. lol

but do we actually know if the preorders are really going that great? I mean OP just looked at a few amazon HOURLY CHARTS, that doesn't really mean anything.

you have to look at the yearly charts OR at least, look at the "most wished for" charts:

Stop using amazon hourly chart to spread misinformation!
please use amazon yearly chart for more accurate data of physical sales

US

Amazon.com Best Sellers of 2020 in Video Games

Discover Amazon’s Top 100 best-selling products in 2012, 2011, 2010 and beyond. View the Top 100 best sellers for each year, in Amazon Books, Kindle Books, Music, MP3 Songs and Video Games. Browse Amazon’s “Best of 2012 (So Far)” list to find the most popular products throughout the year based...

www.amazon.com

UK

Amazon.co.uk Bestseller Archive in PC & Video Games for 2020

Germany

Amazon.de Bestseller-Archiv in Games für 2020

Canada

Amazon.ca Bestsellers Archive in Video Games for 2020

France

Amazon.fr Archives des meilleures ventes dans Jeux vidéo au 2020

In other word = Underwhelming chart position

Fun fact. SMO, Smash Ultimate, Pokemon SnS, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, and BOTW were at the top of the yearly chart before the release date.

2020 is going to be another Nintendo Game dominating amazon chart

Animal Crossing(25-30 million seller without another console SKU) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TLOU2

there last of us part II is at #60 in the US. FF VII remake is at#18. so in that sense last of us is doing really bad.
I think OP is just trying very hard to paint last of us in a good light, since it's been getting a lot of Negative news lately, that's why OP is trying very hard to get some good news about that game.
But it's ridiculous to take HOURLY - PS4 ONLY GAMES charts for a few selected Amazon sites and then talk about the preorders being great ACROSS THE WHOLE WEB! Ridiculous. And just untrue.
Look at the yearly charts, or wait for Sony or NPD to confirm something.
But just look at HOURLY and PS4 only charts for a few selected Amazon sites is NOT a good metric for preorders. It's just reaching for some STRAWS of good news about last of us.

 

[DForce]

but do we actually know if the preorders are really going that great? I mean OP just looked at a few amazon HOURLY CHARTS, that doesn't really mean anything.

you have to look at the yearly charts OR at least, look at the "most wished for" charts:



there last of us part II is at #60 in the US. FF VII remake is at#18. so in that sense last of us is doing really bad.
I think OP is just trying very hard to paint last of us in a good light, since it's been getting a lot of Negative news lately, that's why OP is trying very hard to get some good news about that game.
But it's ridiculous to take HOURLY - PS4 ONLY GAMES charts for a few selected Amazon sites and then talk about the preorders being great ACROSS THE WHOLE WEB! Ridiculous. And just untrue.
Look at the yearly charts, or wait for Sony or NPD to confirm something.
But just look at HOURLY and PS4 only charts for a few selected Amazon sites is NOT a good metric for preorders. It's just reaching for some STRAWS of good news about last of us.

Stop using amazon hourly chart to spread misinformation!
please use amazon yearly chart for more accurate data of physical sales

US

Amazon.com Best Sellers of 2020 in Video Games

Discover Amazon’s Top 100 best-selling products in 2012, 2011, 2010 and beyond. View the Top 100 best sellers for each year, in Amazon Books, Kindle Books, Music, MP3 Songs and Video Games. Browse Amazon’s “Best of 2012 (So Far)” list to find the most popular products throughout the year based...

www.amazon.com

UK

Amazon.co.uk Bestseller Archive in PC & Video Games for 2020

Germany

Amazon.de Bestseller-Archiv in Games für 2020

Canada

Amazon.ca Bestsellers Archive in Video Games for 2020

France

Amazon.fr Archives des meilleures ventes dans Jeux vidéo au 2020

In other word = Underwhelming chart position

Fun fact. SMO, Smash Ultimate, Pokemon SnS, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, and BOTW were at the top of the yearly chart before the release date.

2020 is going to be another Nintendo Game dominating amazon chart

Animal Crossing(25-30 million seller without another console SKU) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TLOU2

The Last of Us Pre-orders began in September 27 2019.

Sales started to resurface after the new release date announcement on Monday April 27th.

Video game sales have spiked during quarantine while The Last of Us Part II was delayed again with no release date for weeks.

If you think games like NBA 2K20, Jedi: Fallen Order, Resident Evil 3: Remake are going to sell better than TLOU Part II in 2020 (which the chart shows) then you're likely going to be in for a real surprise.

 

[Arachnid]

TLOU sold 17 freaking million copies. 17! That's their constituency, that's why this is so huge. I honestly had no idea until I checked it out.

But you'd be fool thinking leaks won't hurt early sales . They will. But more significant impact will be on long-term sales (where first game flourished). I've seen hours upon hours of leaked scenes and I'm telling you, guaranteed, word of mouth will not be good on this one. There's just no saving grace.

Many bad games sold tremendously at launch like, for example, FFXV or RE6 but it didn't last once the word got out they were bad. There's still a lot of curiosity about Part 2 and, though hard to believe, not everyone is on twitter. Vast majority of people will go blindly into this.

Idk man. RE5 is the highest selling RE game (highest selling Capcom game too I think). It got that riding off the hype RE4 generated (RE4 being a game tons of people grew up with, and it's still in the top 25 highest rated games of all time; RE6 benefited from the reputation it gave the series too, combined with RE5s coop expectations and I think it's just right behind 5). TLOU2 will probably sell just as much as the first game (maybe more if they decide to double dip for next gen again). If it's as bad as you say though, hopefully word of mouth does kill it.

The Last of Us Pre-orders began in September 27 2019.

Didn't they cancel all those preorders due to the game being delayed indefinitely before the leak? I assumed the recent spike was all those people reinstating their preorders.

 

[MasterDerico]

...And yes, mostly professional reviewers follow leftist agenda.

Mods, link this thread to resetera please...

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Didn't they cancel all those preorders due to the game being delayed indefinitely before the leak? I assumed the recent spike was all those people reinstating their preorders.

Correct.

Good to see you are someone who didn't get fooled into thinking LoU2 is such a hot seller, it magically topped pre-order lists twice 8 months apart due to normal sales.

 

[llien]

if you're excited for this game. Gaf is not the place to be. You won't be able to have a normal conversation here. It's pretty toxic.

Yeah, "pretty toxic" as in "mods won't ban people, just for disagreeing with your views and PR move of calling your views 'progressive' won't help either".

 

[DForce]

Didn't they cancel all those preorders due to the game being delayed indefinitely before the leak? I assumed the recent spike was all those people reinstating their preorders.

They did that with digital pre-orders. People still had their physical pre-orders, unless they canceled it themselves.

 

[Arachnid]

They did that with digital pre-orders. People still had their physical pre-orders, unless they canceled it themselves.

Are you sure? I haven't seen any kind of distinction between physical and digital preorders from amazon.

Amazon Cancels The Last Of Us Part II Special Editions As Game Delayed

The Last of Us Part II is delayed until further notice, with all preorder queries retracted from Amazon and other sites, fans enraged and disappointed.

esportsnext.com

 

[Hobbygaming]

Correct.

Good to see you are someone who didn't get fooled into thinking LoU2 is such a hot seller, it magically topped pre-order lists twice 8 months apart due to normal sales.

You guys are in for a big surprise. As long as Sony can keep up with the stock, TLOU 2 will sell like hotcakes

 

[llien]

They'll say a high rating just means that critics are pushing their own "woke" agenda and/or that critics are afraid of seeming noninclusive.

Come on, there was literally a list of "critics who dared not praising the movie" (don't remember which movie it was, most likely SW:TFA).

 

[DForce]

Are you sure? I haven't seen any kind of distinction between physical and digital preorders from amazon.

Amazon Cancels The Last Of Us Part II Special Editions As Game Delayed

The Last of Us Part II is delayed until further notice, with all preorder queries retracted from Amazon and other sites, fans enraged and disappointed.

esportsnext.com

This is talking about the collectors edition. Reading the comments on Twitter, people still had their pre-orders for TLOU 2.

Robot Check

The Special, Ellie and Collector's edition are all sold out.



Sold out at Target.

The Last of Us Part II: Ellie Edition - PlayStation 4

Read reviews and buy The Last of Us Part II: Ellie Edition - PlayStation 4 at Target. Choose from contactless Same Day Delivery, Drive Up and more.

www.target.com

There are still some editions available on other websites like Best Buy and Gamestop.

 

[zkorejo]

Ofcourse it will sell well. ND has built goodwill over years with amazing games, to the point where the ND logo sells the games. But if the game is as bad as the spoilers... Will their next game do well in sales? I highly doubt it.

People always eventually see through bullshit.

 

[Paracelsus]

I've notice lately this is happening more and more:

- Focus on using reviews to protect item because "they played the game" (try that with movies, you'll be laughed out of the building). This didn't happen until few months ago (I've seen some guy in here defend KH writing using reviews with a straight face)
- Stale debate on eventual spoilers until game is out, then use sales to build a strawman. (Like trying to claim FFXV is good because it sold Nine million copies or Jurassic World 2 is a good movie because it made 1.3bn)
- Build false narrative the bashing is not backed up by valid arguments, when in reality it's the defense that is not. Pretend you were never explained the reasons for the bashing.
- If something fails, act like it had nothing to do with the writing.

I also suspect a lot of people who pretend journalists are unbiased (they love when a cherished brand is destroyed, regardless of politics, because it's an FU to the core audience) are either very young or dishonest. I don't believe they are actually this silly.

This is unbiased media for them.

Idk man. RE5 is the highest selling RE game (highest selling Capcom game too I think). It got that riding off the hype RE4 generated (RE4 being a game tons of people grew up with, and it's still in the top 25 highest rated games of all time; RE6 benefited from the reputation it gave the series too, combined with RE5s coop expectations and I think it's just right behind 5). TLOU2 will probably sell just as much as the first game (maybe more if they decide to double dip for next gen again). If it's as bad as you say though, hopefully word of mouth does kill it.

RE6 also sold very well, more so than RE7.
People don't believe until they see, no matter how horrible a spoiler is, they give the benefit of the doubt.
Then the product lives on in infamy, but it doesn't matter because they already moved on to the next thing to ruin.

If you do remember them something got ruined by what they're currently defending, they will dismiss it until that new thing is also ruined, and then they move on.
I expect three more series to be destroyed over the next 5 years: Uncharted is a foregone conclusion, then it's The Witcher, and then another which I don't even dare to mention because I hope they're not stupid.

 

[Azurro]

Oh they'll have excuses alright. They'll say a high rating just means that critics are pushing their own "woke" agenda and/or that critics are afraid of seeming noninclusive. And if it gets bad reviews they'll say its because the game was pushing a "woke" agenda. Either way, they'll feel vindicated.

Really? This is a bit disingenuous, given its...diverse...cast of characters and its production values, then of course it's going to receive 9s and 10s across the board. It is most likely going to be a good game, but the wokeness will certainly skew the scores higher than they probably should be, given what type of people will be reviewing it.

 

[Shambala]

I never thought a video game would have so many feathers ruffled . Some of y'all need help bruh. It's a video game

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

i was going to preorder it but after those leaks i aint touching it.

anyone preordering this is gonna be disappointed or will be coming in here pretending they love it and don't totally regret it at all...lol

 

[JerryinSoCal]

Lesbian lead isn't "woke" lesbian lead pushing feminist agenda is a lot closer to work and some parts of the spoilers will also come across as woke. The only thing that bothered me about that deep dive trailer a while back wasn't the kiss but when Ellie said "I'm just a girl" why would she say that? there wasn't any sarcastic tone to her voice so if it was meant as a joke it sure didn't come across like one. With everything she has been through and done the last thing she's going to say is "I'm just a girl, nobody is scared of me" now maybe there is more to that scene and it'll make more sense later but it pissed me off when I originally saw the trailer.

 

[B-universe]

Oh they'll have excuses alright. They'll say a high rating just means that critics are pushing their own "woke" agenda and/or that critics are afraid of seeming noninclusive. And if it gets bad reviews they'll say its because the game was pushing a "woke" agenda. Either way, they'll feel vindicated.

Conversely, low scores will have you decrying how critics caved in to the Alt-right, right? High-scores will mean critics stood up bravely and courageously for Representation.

This petty game of yours can be played by anyone else and more competently so.

This, of course, from you, who cannot define Oppression, can't explain what it is in today's world, to whom it is happening and who is enacting it out, but nevertheless won't tire of talking about it.

Yes, talk is cheap.
Yours is from Dollar Tree, right?

 

[Kagey K]

Oh they'll have excuses alright. They'll say a high rating just means that critics are pushing their own "woke" agenda and/or that critics are afraid of seeming noninclusive. And if it gets bad reviews they'll say its because the game was pushing a "woke" agenda. Either way, they'll feel vindicated.

I see you already have the goalposts set for either way.

Nice forward thinking on your part.

 

[Hostile_18]

I have stayed out of the negative/spoiler threads but all I can say is this;

Uncharted 1-4, Lost Legacy and The Last of Us have for me all been amazing 10/10 games and I have every confidence this is going to be just as good.

Like Taylor once said gamers gonna play, play, play. Haters gonna hate, hate, hate.

Last of Us: Part 2 = Game of the Generation.

 

[Kagey K]

I have stayed out of the negative/spoiler threads but all I can say is this;

Uncharted 1-4, Lost Legacy and The Last of Us have for me all been amazing 10/10 games and I have every confidence this is going to be just as good.

Like Taylor once said gamers gonna play, play, play. Haters gonna hate, hate, hate.

Last of Us: Part 2 = Game of the Generation.

Oof. Your games of the generation are mostly last gen games, yet B/C is unimportant.

 

[Zaffo]

It's not even a matter of ND having a pedigree, if you are a person in the Sony ecosystem tlou2 is the next big cinematic game you are going to buy because you own a ps4.
Halo games have been mediocre at best for years and they still sell millions, while everything with the Mario name is an automatic slam dunk on Nintendo platforms.

 

[Mattyp]

If this game breaks records during the first week and gets a rating of 90+ on MC, then I don't want to hear any excuses from anyone. lol

Why does anyone consider any reviewers word here as gospel when 90% of them have no fucking idea about gaming? The same people who stuck up for Zoe Quinn and Anita? These are the people we listen to?

If by MC you mean by user reviewers yes let's go with that. BUT MAH FAKE REVIEWERS OF RIGHT NAZIIIIISSS. I await the excuse.

 

[Hostile_18]

Oof. Your games of the generation are mostly last gen games, yet B/C is unimportant.

I think you've got the wrong person I'm massively pushing for backwards compatibility next generation, especially PS1-3 games (it's a dream I know).

 

[Geki-D]

If by MC you mean by user reviewers yes let's go with that. BUT MAH FAKE REVIEWERS OF RIGHT NAZIIIIISSS. I await the excuse.

Considering all the hate the game is already getting, you think it won't get review bombed day one? Ha, that's cute.

 

[Kagey K]

I think you've got the wrong person I'm massively pushing for backwards compatibility next generation, especially PS1-3 games (it's a dream I know).

So if that was the case, shouldn't most of your Games of the Generation be disqualified?

Only Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy (and eventually TLOU2) are current gen games.

 

[Geki-D]

So if that was the case, shouldn't most of your Games of the Generation be disqualified?

Any occasion is an occasion to console war. Jesus Christ.

 

[DForce]

Why does anyone consider any reviewers word here as gospel when 90% of them have no fucking idea about gaming? The same people who stuck up for Zoe Quinn and Anita? These are the people we listen to?

If by MC you mean by user reviewers yes let's go with that. BUT MAH FAKE REVIEWERS OF RIGHT NAZIIIIISSS. I await the excuse.

It's not gospel, but they're actually PLAYING the game.

You want to go by user reviews when the it will be filled with trolls who haven't even PLAYED the game?

Your post is complete nonsense.

 

[Strategize]

Why does anyone consider any reviewers word here as gospel when 90% of them have no fucking idea about gaming? The same people who stuck up for Zoe Quinn and Anita? These are the people we listen to?

If by MC you mean by user reviewers yes let's go with that. BUT MAH FAKE REVIEWERS OF RIGHT NAZIIIIISSS. I await the excuse.

I'd rather trust reviewers who actually sat down a played the entire thing back to front than people review bombing.

 

[B-universe]

Considering all the hate the game is already getting, you think it won't get review bombed day one? Ha, that's cute.

If you want to speculate, how about also taking into account those zealous fans and ardent activists coming to the rescue of TLoU2 as well? Can you estimate the effect of each on aggregated user review scores?

Yah, I didn't think so.

 

[Geki-D]

If you want to speculate, how about also taking into account those zealous fans and ardent activists coming to the rescue of TLoU2 as well? Can you estimate the effect of each on aggregated user review scores?

Yah, I didn't think so.

So you agree that user score is actually utter shit and can't be trusted? Well damn, who'd have thought.

 

[Mattyp]

Considering all the hate the game is already getting, you think it won't get review bombed day one? Ha, that's cute.

All the hate by original fans of the game? Those fucking assholes.

 

[Kagey K]

If the game is that good (or presale that good) why do we need biased topics like this to promote it?

Obviously it doesn't hold up under scrutiny and makes it look worse.

 

[Hostile_18]

So if that was the case, shouldn't most of your Games of the Generation be disqualified?

Only Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy (and eventually TLOU2) are current gen games.

I'm not sure what your getting at? Im just speculating Last of Us part 2 has the potential to beat Witcher 3 as my game of the generation and that previous Naughty Dog games I found amazing.

Here's my games of the year for previous years. There are a few Naughty Dog titles in there...

2019: Days Gone
2018: God of War
2017: The Evil Within 2
2016: Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
2015: The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
2014: The Evil Within
2013: The Last of Us
2012: Resident Evil 6
2011: Mortal Kombat 9
2010: Deadly Premonition
2009: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
2008: Fallout 3
2007: Bioshock
2006: Marvel Ultimate Alliance
2005: Civilization IV
2004: Farcry
2003: Rainbow 6: Raven Shield
2002: Mafia
2001: Star Wars: Galatic Battlegrounds
2000: Deus Ex
1999: Sid Meiers Alpha Centauri
1998: Zelda: Ocarina of Time
1997: Goldeneye
1996: Mario 64
1995: Micro Machines '96
1994: Sonic 3 / Sonic & Knuckles
1993: Doom
1992: Sonic 2
1991: The Simpsons
1990: Tetris
1989: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

 

[B-universe]

So you agree that user score is actually utter shit and can't be trusted? Well damn, who'd have thought.

Yet, somehow, mysteriously, to you it only seemed reasonable to point out one side of that coin.
Carry on.

 

[Kagey K]

I'm not sure what your getting at? Im just speculating Last of Us part 2 has the potential to beat Witcher 3 as my game of the generation and that previous Naughty Dog games I found amazing.

Here's my games of the year for previous years. There are a few Naughty Dog titles in there...

2019: Days Gone
2018: God of War
2017: The Evil Within 2
2016: Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
2015: The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
2014: The Evil Within
2013: The Last of Us
2012: Resident Evil 6
2011: Mortal Kombat 9
2010: Deadly Premonition
2009: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
2008: Fallout 3
2007: Bioshock
2006: Marvel Ultimate Alliance
2005: Civilization IV
2004: Farcry
2003: Rainbow 6: Raven Shield
2002: Mafia
2001: Star Wars: Galatic Battlegrounds
2000: Deus Ex
1999: Sid Meiers Alpha Centauri
1998: Zelda: Ocarina of Time
1997: Goldeneye
1996: Mario 64
1995: Micro Machines '96
1994: Sonic 3 / Sonic & Knuckles
1993: Doom
1992: Sonic 2
1991: The Simpsons
1990: Tetris
1989: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

This list makes me sad for games.

Look at how far we've come and how backwards it's got.

 

[T_LVPL]

Should be a fun final few weeks now before the game comes out with everyone pretending the game won't be absolutely brilliant, imagining the game will flop, and pretending they won't buy it.

 

[PharaoTutAnchAmun]

In the charts presented by OP, it's only PS4 games though.

I love this downplaying no matter what....." but the game is woke, Cuckmann is woke, but the story is shit, SJW, gaytrash, people must boycott this woke game" Ma-am, blah blah blah. Most gamers dont care for all this downplaying the game, only keyboardwarriors with an agenda, trying to convince gamers not to buy the game.
But people can make up theyr own mind, thank God for that.
The game will sell great, the downplaying of the game will have a minor effect.

 

[Geki-D]

All the hate by original fans of the game? Those fucking assholes.

Ah yes. I'm sure the "true fans" are the ones who have been harping on the game about "wokeness" & "Cuckmann" for the last 2 years. I'm sure those unbiased individuals will be totally impartial about the game when giving it a score

Yet, somehow, mysteriously, to you it only seemed reasonable to point out one side of that coin.
Carry on.

Because it's way, way more common.

Metacritic Says It Has Removed Rule-Violating Mass Effect 3 User Reviews - Kotaku

Aggregating website Metacritic says it has deleted some Mass Effect 3 user reviews and will "continue to monitor" what seems to be a unified effort to

kotaku.com

A brief history of how Steam review bombing damages developers

We have a tendency to instantly and loudly react to things we do not like in the videogame industry, and that noise can be deafening. We are also used to being pandered to. Don't like the ending of a game? Hound the developers to change it. Sad because Dante had a haircut? Hound the developers to

www.pcgamesn.com

Steam review bombing is working, and Chinese players are a powerful new voice

Flooding Steam reviews has become a popular form of protest, and now Chinese players are using reviews to demand localization.

www.pcgamer.com

Steam users are attacking Dota 2 because there’s no more Half-Life

“Where the ♥♥♥♥ is half life 3 ??”

www.polygon.com

PUBG Review Bombed on Steam Due to In-game ads Found in China

Chinese players are reporting an in-game ad for a VPN in their lobbies.

www.usgamer.net

Star Wars Battlefront 2 Has Been Review Bombed Over "Pay to Win" Controversy

Star Wars Battlefront 2 has been review bombed over its recent "pay to win" controversy, with EA's upcoming shooter already being slammed online before its release.

www.gamerevolution.com

Steam users review bomb Total War: Rome 2 over female characters

Total War: Rome 2 has suffered a Steam review bombing run over women characters and a recent update - but it turns out …

www.eurogamer.net

Metro games are getting review-bombed on Steam

2033 and Last Light are getting review bombed because Metro Exodus isn't launching on Steam

www.pcgamesn.com

Old Borderlands games are getting review bombed because of the Epic store

Borderlands 3 isn't on going to be on Steam for a while, but it's getting plenty of reviews there

www.pcgamesn.com

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare review bombed over Russian portrayal

Consumers are lashing out, attacking the game on Metacritic

www.polygon.com

Comics Fanboys Are Pissed About ‘Watchmen’

The series has been “review bombed” and blasted on social media for “race-baiting” and making a popular character a symbol of white supremacy. It’s predictable. It’s also wrong.

www.thedailybeast.com

‘Captain Marvel’ Sandbagged on Rotten Tomatoes Within a Few Hours of Opening

'Captain Marvel' had only been in theaters for hours on Friday and the female-driven Marvel film already had been torpedoed by online trolls via Rotten Tomatoes.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Rotten Tomatoes will no longer allow audiences to review movies before release

Among other changes the review aggregator is making to audience reviews

www.polygon.com

Star Wars: The Last Jedi is being review-bombed on Rotten Tomatoes (update)

Let’s dig into this

www.polygon.com

There are like 3 examples of "positive" review bombing. Unless you have proof that positive review bombing is as widespread a problem?

Should be a fun final few weeks now before the game comes out with everyone pretending the game won't be absolutely brilliant, imagining the game will flop, and pretending they won't buy it.

They gotta keep hoping, gotta keep coping.

 

[OliverKahn]

As if Uncharted and Tlou games aren't sales juggernauts lol even amongst a plethora of different good games found on PS4 from third party they still sell. unlike Nintendo machines which lack those third party games and the only competition thy have between droughts are themselves. Bro get out your bubble and stop posting frivolous bs. Tlou will be a juggernaut just like the first was.

Juggernaut? did you even realize how aggressive Sony was when bundling UC4 with play-station?

Sony gave away UC4 copies for free for every PS4 sold to costumer, the numbers were inflated by that marketing strategy.

Despite bing the best selling exclusive of PS4, Zelda BOTW physical sales alone made more revenue than UC4 physical + digital as stated in NPD report(NPD didn't count free copies bundled).

Top 20 best-selling games from 2010 through 2019 in the U.S.

1. Grand Theft Auto V
2. Call of Duty: Black Ops
3. Call of Duty: Black Ops II
4. Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
5. Call of Duty: Black Ops III
6. Call Of Duty: Ghosts
7. Red Dead Redemption II
8. Call of Duty: WWII
9. Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII
10. Minecraft
11. Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare
12. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2019
13. Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
14. Mario Kart 8
15. Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare
16. Battlefield 1
17. Battlefield 4
18. Destiny
19. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
20. Star Wars Battlefront 2015

Zelda BOTW physical sales alone made more money than any other PS4 exclusives physical+digital.

 

[Kagey K]

Should be a fun final few weeks now before the game comes out with everyone pretending the game won't be absolutely brilliant, imagining the game will flop, and pretending they won't buy it.

I dont think anyone says it will flop. It will sell, but the people that buy it might not enjoy it.

There is a difference there that you just seem to be unable to see.

 

[B-universe]

Ah yes. I'm sure the "true fans" are the ones who have been harping on the game about "wokeness" & "Cuckmann" for the last 2 years. I'm sure those unbiased individuals will be totally impartial about the game when giving it a score


Because it's way, way more common.

Metacritic Says It Has Removed Rule-Violating Mass Effect 3 User Reviews - Kotaku

Aggregating website Metacritic says it has deleted some Mass Effect 3 user reviews and will "continue to monitor" what seems to be a unified effort to

kotaku.com

A brief history of how Steam review bombing damages developers

We have a tendency to instantly and loudly react to things we do not like in the videogame industry, and that noise can be deafening. We are also used to being pandered to. Don't like the ending of a game? Hound the developers to change it. Sad because Dante had a haircut? Hound the developers to

www.pcgamesn.com

Steam review bombing is working, and Chinese players are a powerful new voice

Flooding Steam reviews has become a popular form of protest, and now Chinese players are using reviews to demand localization.

www.pcgamer.com

Steam users are attacking Dota 2 because there’s no more Half-Life

“Where the ♥♥♥♥ is half life 3 ??”

www.polygon.com

PUBG Review Bombed on Steam Due to In-game ads Found in China

Chinese players are reporting an in-game ad for a VPN in their lobbies.

www.usgamer.net

Star Wars Battlefront 2 Has Been Review Bombed Over "Pay to Win" Controversy

Star Wars Battlefront 2 has been review bombed over its recent "pay to win" controversy, with EA's upcoming shooter already being slammed online before its release.

www.gamerevolution.com

Steam users review bomb Total War: Rome 2 over female characters

Total War: Rome 2 has suffered a Steam review bombing run over women characters and a recent update - but it turns out …

www.eurogamer.net

Metro games are getting review-bombed on Steam

2033 and Last Light are getting review bombed because Metro Exodus isn't launching on Steam

www.pcgamesn.com

Old Borderlands games are getting review bombed because of the Epic store

Borderlands 3 isn't on going to be on Steam for a while, but it's getting plenty of reviews there

www.pcgamesn.com

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare review bombed over Russian portrayal

Consumers are lashing out, attacking the game on Metacritic

www.polygon.com

Comics Fanboys Are Pissed About ‘Watchmen’

The series has been “review bombed” and blasted on social media for “race-baiting” and making a popular character a symbol of white supremacy. It’s predictable. It’s also wrong.

www.thedailybeast.com

‘Captain Marvel’ Sandbagged on Rotten Tomatoes Within a Few Hours of Opening

'Captain Marvel' had only been in theaters for hours on Friday and the female-driven Marvel film already had been torpedoed by online trolls via Rotten Tomatoes.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Rotten Tomatoes will no longer allow audiences to review movies before release

Among other changes the review aggregator is making to audience reviews

www.polygon.com

Star Wars: The Last Jedi is being review-bombed on Rotten Tomatoes (update)

Let’s dig into this

www.polygon.com

There are like 3 examples of "positive" review bombing. Unless you have proof that positive review bombing is as widespread a problem?


They gotta keep hoping, gotta keep coping.

Oh, I don't have to do anything, because, unlike you, I didn't assert anything as factual. I have said several times now the game will probably become a bestseller, that I found the first two TLoU2 trailers great, that the graphics look amazing to me, that Neil has every right to make the game he wants to, etc.

But leave it up to people who seem to think Kotaku, Polygon and PCgamer are impartial sources of objective data when it comes to politicized gaming topics to view the world through the prism of one-sidedness.

 

[Bloody Knuckles]

...And yes, mostly professional reviewers follow leftist agenda.

Mods, link this thread to resetera please...

Ah yes, the loud minority mouth breathers such as youtubers etc following the rightist anti sjw agenda

Mods please link this thread to the White House please......

 

[Wolfgang Jr]

Yep. I stopped needing validation for things I like/dislike ages ago. I enjoyed all the new Star Wars movies to varying degrees, including Rise of Skywalker. It has flaws for sure, but I'm just looking to shut my brain off and be entertained with movies, shows and games.

I couldn't give a Coronavirus filled shit about artistic merit or critical reception. If something entertained me I'm good. My opinion, and how I come to it, is no more or less valid than anyone else's and I stopped arguing about subjective things online years ago.

Yes, shut of your brain; living in society is far too much effort for the standard neckbeard these days. Lie on your couch (or bed if you can't physically or be bothered moving), cover yourself in Doritos, play vidya and die a virgin. No-one cares about you or your pathetic life.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

Stop using amazon hourly chart to spread misinformation!
please use amazon yearly chart for more accurate data of physical sales

US

Amazon.com Best Sellers of 2020 in Video Games

Discover Amazon’s Top 100 best-selling products in 2012, 2011, 2010 and beyond. View the Top 100 best sellers for each year, in Amazon Books, Kindle Books, Music, MP3 Songs and Video Games. Browse Amazon’s “Best of 2012 (So Far)” list to find the most popular products throughout the year based...

www.amazon.com

UK

Amazon.co.uk Bestseller Archive in PC & Video Games for 2020

Germany

Amazon.de Bestseller-Archiv in Games für 2020

Canada

Amazon.ca Bestsellers Archive in Video Games for 2020

France

Amazon.fr Archives des meilleures ventes dans Jeux vidéo au 2020

In other word = Underwhelming chart position

Fun fact. SMO, Smash Ultimate, Pokemon SnS, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, and BOTW were at the top of the yearly chart before the release date.

2020 is going to be another Nintendo Game dominating amazon chart

Animal Crossing(25-30 million seller without another console SKU) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TLOU2

Yeah, on the yearly chart it will be behind games that actually released. Lots of gamers don't actually pre-order things, it's why games have huge opening weekends. It will be interesting to look at the 2020 yearly chart post-launch.

But when some bulletproof series that always sold well gets woke stuff added to it and does like usual, it's totally because of the woke stuff, right?
Why did Battlefield V underperform?
You're like the people blaming ROS instead of TLJ, because ROS "tried to undo" what TLJ did. It wasn't TLJ fault for existing.
When something gets too woke to the point it's impossible to not notice, it tends to underperform.

Probably because TLJ fans also hated ROS. You guys might want to paint it like TLJ ruined the franchise but it had at least as many fans as haters, it was polarizing, not despised and made enough money both in theaters and video to secure the idea people generally liked it. Why do we blame poor performance of a follow up on the film from before anyways? Are we really taking everything away from word of mouth for that film and its marketing? ROS is the only Sequel trilogy entry without a 3x multiplier in America, for instance, that's word of mouth. Why did TLJ still do 3x it's OW if word of mouth was as bad as you guys make out? You can say it did worse than TFA but that film didn't quite hit a 4x multiplier so wasn't this huge leap above it, it also arguably had far less competition considering the break-out success of Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle, the incredible legs of The Greatest Showman and then the juggernaut of Black Panther killing its tail end in a way TFA didn't need to deal with. There are so many factors at play and the question will always linger if the noisy internet minority was just that... a minority. To me it's an easily answered question, I would have expected the film to have tanked on video had the internet mob been correct but it's #28 on the all-time blu charts. It can't be compared to the female Ghostbusters or Battlefield V in good faith.

Just more system wars nonsense.

Yawn....

From me? Or are you agreeing with me? That said I wasn't referring to system wars type of coping, I didn't get the idea people wishing this franchise to fail were console warriors so much as people upset about how allegedly "woke" the game will be (with no self awareness that Druckman's personal politics filled both TLOU and Uncharted 4 as well, incredibly well received and high selling games).

 

[The Cockatrice]

Yes, shut of your brain; living in society is far too much effort for the standard neckbeard these days. Lie on your couch (or bed if you can't physically or be bothered moving), cover yourself in Doritos, play vidya and die a virgin. No-one cares about you or your pathetic life.

Sounds to me like you're the one with a pathetic life if you feel the need to insult another mans way of enjoying things.

 

[Hobbygaming]

90% of the people preordering the game now are fans who've played part one and loved it. They're the mainstreamers who don't visit forums and, as of now, can't conceive of the train-wreck headed their way. It's up to many of us to warn them. The game will sell a few million until the wtf-brakes are put on. It will give the soys the illusion of its success.

I loved the 1st game and from what I've seen, I'll love the 2nd game so what now?

 

[GymWolf]

there is anyone surprised?
this game is gonna sell like wet pussy.