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diffusionx

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I watched it last night and basically the gist of it is that Fauci is part of big pharma that owns patents and they are playing up this virus because they stand to make billions on the vaccine....which is some Bond villain level shit. Heres some thoughts I had on the 26min interview (not sure if there are other videos out there)

The issue that I have is if they are fear mongering (Fauci/Birx), they are doing a fairly bad job at it. They readily admit that there are a lot of people out there that are asymptomatic which will drive down the CFL rate but we just dont have enough data to say how low it will go. They've been pushing that the data shows its relatively rare to have a serious reaction to it if you are under 70. If they stand to make billions, why not ramp up the hysteria?

Also, if this was a big plan to sell vaccines, wouldnt they pick a deadlier virus? I mean, this one is disruptive for sure, but its not deadly enough to panic everybody into getting a vaccine for it.

Lastly, they play clips of Birx freely admitting that their method of accounting COVID deaths is wrong....why is this played like a "gotcha" clip?

The actions of Birx/Fauci/the media/governors/etc. honestly baffles me at this point. Early on, I think they saw some scary numbers coming out of China, saw some really shitty and incorrect models, and based policy off that. I get it. I get it. it made sense back then. But we have more info now, and it's been almost 2 months, and it's clear this thing just isn't as deadly or dangerous as they first thought it was. But instead of charting a responsible path towards they're just doubling down. It's confusing.

And as much as I'm not into the conspiracy thing, I also know they aren't stupid people (well, Cuomo might be, if his brother is any indication). So are they just not telling us something big, or what.
 

cryptoadam

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Oh this won’t end well. Rodney King riots 2.0 will force the lockdown to end.

Gotta love that the headline is about the cops not wearing masks or social distancing, when there was a group of 100 people there not social distancing and fighting each other. It even looks like the guy the cop was beating on took a swing at him. He probably shouldn't of gave him that beating, but the original headline made it seem like these cops just went to 2 people standing around and start giving them a smackdown.

I though being outside was murder and everyone needs to stay at home? How come there was this huge group of 100 people that were fighting? Shouldn't the group that was fighting be chastized and thrown in jail for going outside and murdering everyone with the kill Coronachan? And meanwhile this story will get a lot more play than the story about the 2 guys who shot a security guard because they asked his daughter to wear a mask. I wonder why :unsure:
 

Nymphae

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...Fauci is part of big pharma that owns patents and they are playing up this virus because they stand to make billions on the vaccine

Is he involved in a conflict of interest as stated in the video? The information about the Bayh-Dole act was news to me.

but its not deadly enough to panic everybody into getting a vaccine for it.

It's not like I've been hearing people get into a panic about this literally waiting for a vaccine....

Lastly, they play clips of Birx freely admitting that their method of accounting COVID deaths is wrong....why is this played like a "gotcha" clip?

Are faulty data and incorrect assessments not relevant to the plot here?
 
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hariseldon

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An interesting read - one of the stand-out bits tells of how, after apologising to China for Cameron and Clegg daring to meet the Dalai Lama, in a meeting between British and Chinese officials, the Chinese officials demanded the British officials read the apology out loud. Afterwards, the Chinese delegation said "We just wanted to know that you meant it". Degrading behaviour, the behaviour of an abusive spouse.

It's time to jettison these arrogant bastards and bring the West back from the grave.

Hugging China hasn’t done us any favours

Like nearly everything named a ‘scandal’, ‘affair’ or given the post-fix ‘gate’, almost nobody now remembers the Dalai Lama affair. But back in 2012, flush with recently acquired power and optimism, David Cameron and a man called Nick Clegg went to see the Dalai Lama while he was on a trip to London.

Whether Cameron and Clegg knew what they were getting into wasn’t clear. The pair had a short meeting with the Lama at St Paul’s Cathedral — or at least in one of those bland conference ante-rooms English cathedrals constructed in the last century to atone for the splendours next door. Looking like a couple of travelling salesmen trying to flog the Dalai Lama a timeshare, Cameron and Clegg had the meeting and moved on.

Not so Beijing. The British ambassador was immediately called in and given the traditional post-Lama telling off. In the wake of the meeting the Chinese Communist party announced relations with Britain had been damaged. Sure enough, Chinese investment into the UK went on hold. A trip to the UK by Chairman Wu Bangguo was called off. And the CCP talked about how ‘hurt’ the Chinese people had been by the meeting.

You can do that sort of thing if you are a dictatorship: pretend to act as the mouthpiece of more than a billion people, not one of whom can hold you to account. But Cameron got understandably spooked and — proving himself years ahead of the game — announced plans to socially distance himself from the Dalai Lama. Indeed soon he was declaring that he saw no need ever to meet him again. The British government issued an apology to the Chinese authorities for all the offence caused and normal trade relations were eventually restored.

It isn’t healthy to be told that you’re chewing gum on the sole of another country’s shoes
It was the account of the first meeting between British and Chinese officials after this affair that was so memorable. I was told that before the meeting could get under way, the CCP officials attended to a bit of old business. A copy of the British apology was pushed across the table towards the British officials, who were then asked to stand up and read it out loud, which they duly did. Sitting down afterwards, the lead Chinese official apparently smiled and said: ‘We just wanted to know you meant it.’
I doubt there is a British subject whose skin doesn’t crawl at the thought of someone being so abject on our behalf. But there it is. A nadir of the conundrum that Britain — and the wider world — has long known ourselves to be in.

We always realised that there were price tags attached when dealing with the CCP. And as our politicians have repeatedly learned, the line between receiving the largesse of China and receiving orders from it is a fine one.

Other countries have been aware of this for years. On a trip to Australia in 2018 I was struck by how much further along the road the public’s understanding of the China conundrum was there compared with in Britain. They had long since passed through their politicians praising the benefits, watched them join the boards of Chinese companies, and then slowly but surely observed the political class back away as they saw what that cooperation entailed.

Today the Australians have an advantage over us. While we have a vast trade deficit with China (around £20 billion), Australia has a vast trade surplus with the country (around £30 billion). Even so, they remain vulnerable to the CCP’s normal diplomatic routine of extortion and threats.

Towards the end of last month the Australian government started calling for an international, independent inquiry into the origins of Covid-19. This followed intelligence leaks suggesting that the virus may have originated in a laboratory in Wuhan rather than one of the city’s famously delicious wet markets. The Chinese response was textbook. The country’s ambassador to Australia warned the Australian Financial Review that the Chinese public (there they go again) were ‘frustrated, dismayed and disappointed with what you are doing now. If the mood is going from bad to worse, people would think why we should go to such a country while it’s not so friendly to China. The tourists may have second thoughts.’ Students, parents and consumers were also said to be on the verge of once again choosing bat soup over Aussie beef and Shiraz.

In other words, the CCP’s response to Australia was the usual mob trick: nice continent you’ve got there. Shame if anything happened to it.

The editor of the state-run Global Times, Hu Xijin, was less diplomatic. Hu took to Weibo (China’s answer to Twitter) to describe Australia as a piece of ‘chewing gum stuck on the sole of China’s shoes’. He went on: ‘Sometimes you have to find a stone to rub it off.’ As Britain learned in 2012, the stone that China uses to get rid of us pieces of chewing gum is a familiar one. It involves the full litany of investment threats. And it includes claims — issued from its embassies worldwide — that all criticism of the CCP is motivated by ‘racism’.

Of course the CCP has no interest in bigotry. A survey of what it has been willing to do to the Uighur people over recent years might go some way to countering that claim. But it knows the West is cowed by such distractions. After all it isn’t very many weeks since Nancy Pelosi was telling Americans to visit their local Chinatown and the mayor of Florence was urging residents of his city to hug a Chinese person to fight racism and coronavirus.

Yet just as surely as Cameron was ahead of his time, so the Florentine mayor turned out to be behind his. We have been hugging China for years now, and it didn’t make us better. It made us sicker. And not just virally, but psychologically too.

It isn’t healthy to have your officials lick another country’s shoes. Or be told that you’re chewing gum on the bottom of them. We need to find a way out of this relationship — one that we all know turned abusive years ago.
 

Joe T.

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I just picked an example of one State ( Not even the biggest one ) having bigger numbers than a whole country, i coud give you other examples.

You could have picked any number of states that have already re-opened to make your point and instead you chose one of the harder hit states that remains closed. Puzzling choice that speaks to the point I was making - the states, like the various countries around the world, are re-opening when they deem the situation within their borders satisfactory.

It appears you're satisfied with the conditions Italy, Germany, etc set for themselves if you had nothing to say about them. Like I said, life goes on.
 

Chaplain

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"What would it be like if you stopped thinking for yourself and believed everything the media tells you? Here's what it might look like to be completely brainwashed by the news." (5/6/20)

 
Is he involved in a conflict of interest as stated in the video? The information about the Bayh-Dole act was news to me.

Big pharma is definitely a problem and the ability to patent these "cures" is a double edged sword at the very best. Is Fauci involved in a conflict of interest? Honestly, I dont know. There is no vaccine for it yet though so how can he have his hands involved in each one being currently developed? Also, they are tanking the world economy with this plan. How many billion dollar companies are out there that would love blow the lid on this whole thing and get back to making money?



It's not like I've been hearing people get into a panic about this literally waiting for a vaccine....

Yeah there is a not-insignificant number of people who are in a panic about the vaccine, but its more the media that seems to be hyping this up vs. Fauci or Birx. Also, again, it just seems like there would be a better virus to try and make money off of, something more deadly.



Are faulty data and incorrect assessments not relevant to the plot here?

Not saying that they arent but who isnt running off faulty data and incorrect assessments? How could you not in the middle of this thing? We are still learning more and more about this virus every day and most of the major countries have been criticized about how they are classifying their dead or infected numbers. Plus, i think there is a genuine debate about how to classify the deaths. If someone has been living fairly comfortably with a potentially fatal disease that is exacerbated by COVID and dies, what should the cause of death be? Seems like it should be more of a judgement call on behalf of the caregiver, but that would never fly as an actual policy. You have to set terms.


I'm not saying its not good to question the narrative given but its just difficult to imagine what the angles are here.
 
You're not a mod and no one has stated that as far as I know. Glad to see he put it back in his post. This video is getting removed from YT left and right, the one I posted last night is already down. Cheer on those censors bro.

If that copy of PLANDEMIC: Part 1 is taken off youtube again, here's another source for it.

 
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Nymphae

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Big pharma is definitely a problem and the ability to patent these "cures" is a double edged sword at the very best. Is Fauci involved in a conflict of interest? Honestly, I dont know. There is no vaccine for it yet though so how can he have his hands involved in each one being currently developed? Also, they are tanking the world economy with this plan. How many billion dollar companies are out there that would love blow the lid on this whole thing and get back to making money?





Yeah there is a not-insignificant number of people who are in a panic about the vaccine, but its more the media that seems to be hyping this up vs. Fauci or Birx. Also, again, it just seems like there would be a better virus to try and make money off of, something more deadly.





Not saying that they arent but who isnt running off faulty data and incorrect assessments? How could you not in the middle of this thing? We are still learning more and more about this virus every day and most of the major countries have been criticized about how they are classifying their dead or infected numbers. Plus, i think there is a genuine debate about how to classify the deaths. If someone has been living fairly comfortably with a potentially fatal disease that is exacerbated by COVID and dies, what should the cause of death be? Seems like it should be more of a judgement call on behalf of the caregiver, but that would never fly as an actual policy. You have to set terms.


I'm not saying its not good to question the narrative given but its just difficult to imagine what the angles are here.

At the very least I think it's worth watching and considering, it's funny to see people claim this highly credentialed woman is a kook. It really does amaze me at what information people consider worthy of censorship. Nothing in that video, to me, would seem to require nuking it from the internet. Refute it, don't hide it.
 
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Deleted member 17706

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Oh this won’t end well. Rodney King riots 2.0 will force the lockdown to end.

Man, fuck these power hungry hypocritical cops. Hope they get identified and fired, but I won't hold out hope...

I wonder if any of them really think assaulting people is going to get them to stop gathering. And since they don't even bother to wear masks themselves, it's quite clear they don't even think this Coronavirus thing is all that important, meaning they shouldn't give a shit about gatherings anyway.
 
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Joe T.

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I loathe the media and the local leaders are quickly catching up. The long term care facilities were identified as a major problem fairly early on - I think they account for over 80% of deaths in the province - so that more hasn't been done to focus on addressing it and then using that to extend the lockdown is maddening. This is a problem that goes from the local level all the way to the top. And mayor Valerie Plante was the only Canadian named to the worldwide covid-19 task force.

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cryptoadam

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I loathe the media and the local leaders are quickly catching up. The long term care facilities were identified as a major problem fairly early on - I think they account for over 80% of deaths in the province - so that more hasn't been done to focus on addressing it and then using that to extend the lockdown is maddening. This is a problem that goes from the local level all the way to the top. And mayor Valerie Plante was the only Canadian named to the worldwide covid-19 task force.

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I can't believe dumb as a plant Plante go on that task force. I swear its only because she is going to focus on climate change and socialist policies over the virus. But at least we have BIXI Bikes!!! BIXI BIKES!
 
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Deleted member 17706

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If that copy of PLANDEMIC: Part 1 is taken off youtube again, here's another source for it.


Interesting video, but seems largely implausible to me. I find it hard to believe that Big Pharma can control how the entire world operates in regards to vaccines and treatments. I'm sure there are plenty of bad actors when it comes to patenting and trying to make money off this stuff vs. actually saving lives, but this video seems like a bit much...

Also, I wish these type of videos would cool it with the ominous background music. When you're claiming to be revealing the truth, you should be able to do that with just straight facts and not attempting to manipulate people emotionally with music and visual effects.
 
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cryptoadam

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I don't buy into these "conspiracy theories", but the board that is testing drugs for corona chan in the US has 9 out of 50 members from Gilead.

I don't know if these means anything or not. Gilead people are probably pretty smart, but it also kinda seems like a conflict of interest that the people making the expensive drug that is touted as a theraputic are sitting ona comitte that will decide which drugs to use.
 

cryptoadam

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Usually this guy is pretty good so I didn't expect him to start floating CV being made in a lab theories. And he is also getting behind HCQ a bit. Looks like he also caught onto Dr. Campbell and his Vitamin D talk.

 

Joe T.

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He was holding rallies in February, shaking hands with people at large events (CPAC) and hanging around other politicians that went on to test positive. While other leaders were in self-isolation or getting medical treatment because they tested positive he seemed unconcerned for a man of his age. Maybe he really is invincible?!

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Or maybe he's just really lucky. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

cryptoadam

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This has to be fake news or Russian twitter bots?

First time closing the subway to clean it? I guess they did smaller cleaning before this but you would think Mr 40K ventilators science based you will all be like New York would of cleaned the public transport a bit earlier no?
 

All Hail C-Webb

Hailing from the Chill-Web


ManaByte with the follow-through, after also calling out that conspiracy theory nut job video. Didn't see that coming, but happy to be wrong. Shows you at least think for yourself even though I still disagree with most of your thoughts. :)

That's a picture from last year during Pride. Somebody else posted the uncropped image. That's quite the fuck-up from Yahoo.




This has to be fake news or Russian twitter bots?



First time closing the subway to clean it? I guess they did smaller cleaning before this but you would think Mr 40K ventilators science based you will all be like New York would of cleaned the public transport a bit earlier no?


They clean the subways all the time. They were cleaning them often when the lockdown started, but they had never shut down train service to do so.
The main reason that they're doing this, and making a show of the cleaning is because they need to remove the homeless, without making it seem like that's the goal.
 
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From the UK's Guardian live blog:

"The World Health Organization has advised governments to clinically test a herbal drink touted by Madagascar’s President Andry Rajoelina as a remedy against coronavirus.

The Covid-Organics infusion is derived from artemisia - a plant with proven anti-malarial properties - and other indigenous herbs.

Rajoelina hopes to distribute the infusion across West Africa and beyond, claiming it cures COVID-19 patients within 10 days."

Hmmm... I'll refrain from writing a snarky comment, this is legit, and... natural? Gonna get me some (if they sell it down town lol). Will supplement me zinc and sun tan.
 

cryptoadam

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From the UK's Guardian live blog:

"The World Health Organization has advised governments to clinically test a herbal drink touted by Madagascar’s President Andry Rajoelina as a remedy against coronavirus.

The Covid-Organics infusion is derived from artemisia - a plant with proven anti-malarial properties - and other indigenous herbs.

Rajoelina hopes to distribute the infusion across West Africa and beyond, claiming it cures COVID-19 patients within 10 days."

Hmmm... I'll refrain from writing a snarky comment, this is legit, and... natural? Gonna get me some (if they sell it down town lol). Will supplement me zinc and sun tan.

A President touting an anti-malerial drug ??

So the WHO is now telling me to drink fish tank cleaner ?
 

Joe T.

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So Yahoo was trying to stoke racial division and start race riots I see.

Bold strategy Cotton.

Yeah, as I mentioned in the SF police face mask thread, I saw this bubbling up. It seems to be a deliberate attempt by Dems (plenty on Twitter raising a stink) and the liberal media to inflame racial tensions across a variety of stories, some of which are more subtle than others. It's undoubtedly so they can capitalize on that tension in the coming elections by pandering to racial justice/equality, a common theme of theirs every election cycle.

Back on topic, watched Texas governor Greg Abbott in the Oval Office earlier explain, along with Deborah Birx, how they've focused their efforts on the most afflicted/vulnerable areas of the state - meat packing plants, prisons, old age homes - to put out the "fires" and re-open the state. Abbott claimed the state had one of the lowest death rates among senior citizens. Not sure if that checks out, but the state's approach resonated with me because Montreal could be open today had it been applied here in Quebec.
 

JORMBO

Darkness no more


I think Trump said it best.

Your a Yahoo thats why no one knows who you are. LOL.

FAKE NEWS Busted.


It's one thing to post a biased story or to get something wrong due to sloppy reporting. Cropping the image in order to sell a story they know is completely fake from the start is some next level bullshit.


I knew exactly what the last image was going to end up being as I scrolled through but it still got a chuckle out of me. :messenger_grinning_squinting:
 
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cryptoadam

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Yeah, as I mentioned in the SF police face mask thread, I saw this bubbling up. It seems to be a deliberate attempt by Dems (plenty on Twitter raising a stink) and the liberal media to inflame racial tensions across a variety of stories, some of which are more subtle than others. It's undoubtedly so they can capitalize on that tension in the coming elections by pandering to racial justice/equality, a common theme of theirs every election cycle.

Back on topic, watched Texas governor Greg Abbott in the Oval Office earlier explain, along with Deborah Birx, how they've focused their efforts on the most afflicted/vulnerable areas of the state - meat packing plants, prisons, old age homes - to put out the "fires" and re-open the state. Abbott claimed the state had one of the lowest death rates among senior citizens. Not sure if that checks out, but the state's approach resonated with me because Montreal could be open today had it been applied here in Quebec.

For sure the left is looking to stoke racial tensions. The pandemic threw them a curve ball where they couldn't focus on race for a while, but now they are back to their old tricks.

And Legault is just following in Cuomo's foot steps and sending all our old people into the residences so they can infect and kill all of them. Brilliant plan. Meanwhile Plante is worrying about the Pink metro line and BIXI bikes. Were so fucked here. When Ford is making you look like a clown your screwed LOL.
 

cryptoadam

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Even if May 2nd was the most fatal date, all those people got sick BEFORE lifting of restrictions. It takes 10 or more days usually to die from CV, so all these deaths were accumulating while people were under lockdown.

But the reason why is because deaths can happen on a different day from when they are counted and then you can go back and back date things and put them on the correct day.

Death numbers will probably take a year or more to really figure them out and get all the people who died from this and didn't die from this sorted out to take out the over counting or under counting.
 

cryptoadam

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So whats going on with Africa?

Looking at their numbers they aren't really doing to bad, and if you look at deaths per million I don't they have 1 country in double digits. They are also pretty poor, and a hospital in New York probably has more vents and ICU beds then some entire countries. Not to mention that in USA and UK Blacks have nearly a twice as much chance for a negative outcome.

I really don't think the whole African continent is hiding 10's of thousands of deaths.

Did they do much better lockdowns? Virus just never got there? Anti-Malaria drugs? I can't imagine they have the financial resources to do amazing testing and social programs.
 

Collz69

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So whats going on with Africa?

Looking at their numbers they aren't really doing to bad, and if you look at deaths per million I don't they have 1 country in double digits. They are also pretty poor, and a hospital in New York probably has more vents and ICU beds then some entire countries. Not to mention that in USA and UK Blacks have nearly a twice as much chance for a negative outcome.

I really don't think the whole African continent is hiding 10's of thousands of deaths.

Did they do much better lockdowns? Virus just never got there? Anti-Malaria drugs? I can't imagine they have the financial resources to do amazing testing and social programs.

Clearly something is going on, Brazil and other South American countries are doing badly so I wouldn’t put it down to anti-malarial drugs, maybe it hasn’t fully taken off in Africa yet, maybe it’s Vitamin D again, does Africa usually have a flu season? And does it have as many fatalities as Europe?
 

Collz69

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Egypt for example has comparatively low death rates (if the numbers are to be believed) 5 deaths per 1 million population, yet In Cairo they literally live on top of each other and it’s not the most hygienic of places either
 

cryptoadam

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I think even if you look at South America its death per million is also pretty low. Even Brazil which has a lot of infections, its behind the Italy, Sweden, US, UK, Spain, even Canada.

Maybe sunlight, humid+hot temperatures, more people outside, and ventelation/circulation of air when indoors especially in large apartment buildings.

but I wouldn't discount anti malerial or maybe other drugs, I remember people looking into TB vaccines and them working against the CV. So it could be other drugs/vaccines they are taking that is improving the chances of positive outcomes.
 

diffusionx

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So whats going on with Africa?

Looking at their numbers they aren't really doing to bad, and if you look at deaths per million I don't they have 1 country in double digits. They are also pretty poor, and a hospital in New York probably has more vents and ICU beds then some entire countries. Not to mention that in USA and UK Blacks have nearly a twice as much chance for a negative outcome.

I really don't think the whole African continent is hiding 10's of thousands of deaths.

Did they do much better lockdowns? Virus just never got there? Anti-Malaria drugs? I can't imagine they have the financial resources to do amazing testing and social programs.

It’s because their flu season doesn’t run concurrently with ours.
 
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cryptoadam

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It’s because flu season doesn’t run concurrently with ours.

Not sure I understand why the flu season would affect the virus being deadlier in Africa?

I thought the predictions were it wasn't seasonal. The whole summer time will reduce the spread, heat will reduce the spread etc... was debunked ?
 
Not sure I understand why the flu season would affect the virus being deadlier in Africa?

I thought the predictions were it wasn't seasonal. The whole summer time will reduce the spread, heat will reduce the spread etc... was debunked ?

No one knows anything about Covid 19. That's the scary thing. I don't believe any real science has been done, a bunch of perverts in labcoats got together with politicians and said whatever would make them the most money. Or worse, maybe we overreacted because we didn't know what was going on, and now we are doing a series of increasingly dumb things to pretend like the initial over-reaction was justified. No one knows anything about Covid 19, and I hope the no nothing perverts in labcoats crowd takes a very serious blow to their credibility when this is over.
 

Collz69

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I think even if you look at South America its death per million is also pretty low. Even Brazil which has a lot of infections, its behind the Italy, Sweden, US, UK, Spain, even Canada.

Maybe sunlight, humid+hot temperatures, more people outside, and ventelation/circulation of air when indoors especially in large apartment buildings.

but I wouldn't discount anti malerial or maybe other drugs, I remember people looking into TB vaccines and them working against the CV. So it could be other drugs/vaccines they are taking that is improving the chances of positive outcomes.

What I have noticed about South America is that the countries with large rainforests area’s Brazil, Peru, Equador (humid moist air?) are all doing significantly worse than the more southern countries that are more mountainous and desert like, Chile & Argentina in particular (I’m using Worldometer for data)

With regards to TB vaccinations, my neighbours son (21) brought home C-19 and have it to his sister (19) he had mild symptoms, his sister has a heart condition since birth and has virtually no immune system, really suffered with it, luckily not hospitalised and is now recovered, they are too young to have received a TB vaccine at school, both their parents did not contract C-19 despite living in the same house, parents are in their late 40’s and will have had a TB vaccination.
This is anecdotal, but I can’t figure out another reason why the parents would not have picked it up.
 

Djau

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Scotland's extended lockdown for another three weeks; we've stepped up to the plate and said we value lives more than we value profit.


What a clown.

No one knows anything about Covid 19. That's the scary thing. I don't believe any real science has been done, a bunch of perverts in labcoats got together with politicians and said whatever would make them the most money. Or worse, maybe we overreacted because we didn't know what was going on, and now we are doing a series of increasingly dumb things to pretend like the initial over-reaction was justified. No one knows anything about Covid 19, and I hope the no nothing perverts in labcoats crowd takes a very serious blow to their credibility when this is over.

I'm not sure advice from thick-as-pigshit laymen is better than qualified personnel.
 
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Alx

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With regards to TB vaccinations, my neighbours son (21) brought home C-19 and have it to his sister (19) he had mild symptoms, his sister has a heart condition since birth and has virtually no immune system, really suffered with it, luckily not hospitalised and is now recovered, they are too young to have received a TB vaccine at school, both their parents did not contract C-19 despite living in the same house, parents are in their late 40’s and will have had a TB vaccination.
This is anecdotal, but I can’t figure out another reason why the parents would not have picked it up.

The hypothesis behind TB vaccine being effective is that it triggers an immune reaction in the body that is also helpful to fight virus like C19. It needs to be a "fresh" vaccine though, so people who were vaccinated several years ago wouldn't have that benefit (otherwise older people in Europe would be mostly safe, since for their generation TB vaccine was mandatory).
 
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