MISTER INVEIGLER
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You can't make this stuff up.
You listed 3 bad games behind bloodborne.
Witcher 3 - uninteresting.
MGSV - worst MGS game.
BOTW - yuck!
Bad taste all around.
The Witcher 3 vs. Bloodborne
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You listed 3 bad games behind bloodborne.
Witcher 3 - uninteresting.
MGSV - worst MGS game.
BOTW - yuck!
Bad taste all around.
bender
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Mhmmm 2077
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- The Witcher 3 | Votes: 346 | 50.8%
- Bloodborne | Votes: 335 | 49.2%
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Lionel Richie
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You guys are probably talking about combat, gameplay doesn't encompass only combat, especially in a RPG. TW3 has incredible world and quest design and it's a very immersive game. Let me give you guys an example of what I mean: in Horizon Zero Dawn, you walk around doing retarded shit for retarded characters that nobody gives a shit about. TW3 sets you on a myriad of memorable quests, you're doing awesome stuff all the time like a badass slayer of monsters and fucker of sorceresses. It's wholesome and the combat does not get in the way.
Ironic that TW3 could face BOTW in the Finals, the game with my (for real this time) least favorite complaint about any game ever in regards to its weapon degradation system.
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bender
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There is nothing interesting or original about The Witcher's design. My criticisms go well beyond the dull combat mechanics.
Lionel Richie
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I completely disagree there friend, TW3 is masterfully designed, the kind of shit only semislave Polish workforce can get done.
Enzo88
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SLoWMoTIoN
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I see this for many games but I never actually see people telling others how or why x thing is the best.
Wunray
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Got to ask, why you got to shit on TW3 like that instead of acknowledging that both are good games. I mean back in 2015 it swept both critics and community goty polls and it looks like it's about to rob BB here too. Let's be honest TW3 is the closest game (besides BoTW) to reach OoT infamy in years and when it's all said and done and you ask the gaming community at large which games was the best of the last 10 years it's gonna be between BoTW and TW3.
Lionel Richie
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I see this for many games but I never actually see people telling others how or why x thing is the best.
If you want a GMTK style deep dive, I can't provide that as my design analysis is caveman tier like GAME GOOD. And GAME VERY GOOD here. TW3 feels ample, but purposeful. It doesn't dilly dally with pointless shit for no reason. You get hired to do a few jobs, get entangled in a few conspiracies and keep going towards Ciri. Compass is always pointing at something, it never feels like it's just wasting your time. I feel like its pace for such a long game is almost a miracle, which is helped by how clever the dialogue is. Geralt is just a sassy motherfucker and I love it. Monsters feel fine to kill. I'm pushing my boundaries here and I'm this close to going full broken engrish, but I'll just end this by saying TW3 is a memorable experience and a tale very well told. And as a general rule, I fucking hate games that prioritize story over everything else. Just goes to show how hard TW3 nails its.
DelireMan7
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Epic match ! So tense !
I am for Bloodborne but it's anyway 2 great games. (Explaining the so close result)
Congrats and good luck to the winner.
I am for Bloodborne but it's anyway 2 great games. (Explaining the so close result)
Congrats and good luck to the winner.
Spaceman292
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Imagine thinking that the Bloodborne soundtrack is bad. Must be embarrassing.
bender
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Who's shitting on it? Not me. I've acknowledge the things that Witcher 3 does great. I don't think it's a bad game, far from it. I don't put 70+ hours into bad games. I adore open world games, RPGs and narrative focused games. The Witcher's strength in my estimation lies in only one of those three. You could argue the open world and I'd listen, it's certainly lovely but CDPR was so unconfident with their quest design that they gave Roach a GPS. That's a huge turn off and kills any sense of exploration. Open world games are at their best when they deliver some combination of exploration, interesting traversal or sandbox mechanics that take advantage of said world and in my eyes, the Witcher 3's world does none of that.
TheDreadLord
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You know you can turn the minimap off, right?
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bender
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You know it's on by default for a reason, right?
Umbral
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That's the issue with so many open-world games.
Sure, they'll let you turn the UI/mini-map off, but the game was designed with the expectation of almost nobody turning it off. I think you have to design without it first, then add it at the end instead.
Vtecomega
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And here he comes, the man of the hour, looking as ready as ever.
He fucked Costa good.
Bonsaibäumchen
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No intersection at all.
Mhmmm 2077
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You can thank TW3 for existing, otherwise Odyssey (and Origins) wouldn't be what it is right now - a game highely inspired by TW3 design.
Stuart360
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Dont get me wrong, i can easily recognize that Witcher 3 is a fantastic game, its just never fully sucked me in, and i get so far then give up. I have literally started the game over about 7 or 8 times.
Enzo88
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Is it so unimaginable? TW3 jumped in my top 10 all time and BB does not make my top 100.
I consider the game in your avatar utter garbage for example. To each its own, as they say XD
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FranXico
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XGAF retaliation for 2015. They have been rallying to eliminate every PS4 exclusive from this contest.
All games that got this far are excellent either way.
cudiye
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it took me at least 3 tries to get into the game. Geralt's voice was too corny for me. Not to mention that he has the same animation for every single dialogue.
borborygmus
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I don't get why people take the trash talk to heart. It's supposed to be in good fun.
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TheDreadLord
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It is turned on because most of players will find it too difficult to find where to go. If this is not your case, then just turn if off. It is a matter of statistics, not your personal taste.
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borborygmus
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You don't think the availability of a GPS affects the design of the game at all?
bender
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Thus why I said CDPR were unconfident in their quest design.
Mhmmm 2077
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borborygmus
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You sure you know what game are you talking about here?
Game journalists are fools. Fallout 4 discredits that list completely.
Rac3r
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You sure you know what game are you talking about here?
Fallout 4 was ass
rofif
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I agree. It was fun to roam around but generally it was terrible.
Witcher 3 is that game that all non gamers in my work play. Everyone knows it and played it as the ONLY game on their ps4 etc.
Bloodborne is the game they never heard of or bounced... It's just better, more hardcore game. Sure, it's smaller in scope but it's perfect
Bonsaibäumchen
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I would dare to say only Fallout 1,2 and New Vegas were good. 3 and 4 were garbage.
But I also dislike TES Games and many other similar games.
Anyways Witcher 3 was very long, had lots of stuff to do, it wasn't boring and had relatable characters*.
Its greatest flaw for me was the combat though.
*I have to stress though - I tried playing witcher 1 as the second game was near launch. I couldn't get into it - it was very weird.
But as I learned that the Game was based on Books and as someone whos been born in poland I got intrigued. So I read the books, loved them, so I played witcher games cause I already digged the story/lore.
Knitted Knight
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PC Gaf and Xbox Gaf banding together. We see how it's.....
If PCMR wants the port, they better vote for the right game. Otherwise what gives? Start making the investment - today.
If PCMR wants the port, they better vote for the right game. Otherwise what gives? Start making the investment - today.
DonJorginho
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Fallout 4 above MGS V and Bloodborne? I laugh. I laugh very very hard.You sure you know what game are you talking about here?
Journos really were paid off by Mr Chess Club.
Wunray
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Ok that gps comment (or the mini map) doesn't really hold, it's there to help guide players unfamiliar with the world and it can be turned off along with quest tracking once one is familiar with the world, I mean there is a reason in BoTW it's on by default. BB doesn't need it cause it's not open world, can you imagine how ass BB would be if it was open world?
As for it's rpg elements, yeah it's definitely a rpg, you roleplay a witcher called geralt and in that world witchers have a specific set of skills and act a certain governed by it's world (the world building in TW3 rivals from soft games fight me). Speaking of exploration you have to explore the world in order for things to appear on the map and you get info from notice boards too. Let's not forget the amount of sequence breaking the witcher let's you do.
Also kinda of funny that you compare it to assins creed given the direction it's gone in now.
TLDR: TW3 and BB are amazing games each with strengths and weaknesses and likening it to a telltale game or a bargain bin ass creed is in poor form. Now sit back and get ready to vote BoTW in the finals when it's time for TW3 vs BoTW.
teezzy
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Well, they were more likely to pick Bloodborne as GOTY than the readers were:
MGSV was the real winner with journalists though.
bender
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I'm not sure why the default settings of a game don't hold? That's how the developers intend you to play it. Is turning off the quest markers as detrimental to the experience as say, Skyrim? No. But the quest design does fall back on the waypoint system. It's a losing battle, but I really want open world games to return to the likes of Morrowind. No maps, just in game quest dialog/text and sign posts and with a limited fast travel system (Silt Striders) that made since in the game world. I use this as an example a lot, but one of my favorite quests in Morrowind's original PC release gave you incorrect directions. I'm not sure if it was intentional or not (knowing Bethesda, probably just a QA error) but those bogus directions while frustrating, lead me on a whole other adventure. And speaking of Breath of the Wild, one of my favorite side quests in that game just gave the player somewhat cryptic directions to a hidden chest. Personally, the exploration in the Souls games is far more rewarding than anything found in the Witcher.
Witcher 3 just follows modern open world design philosophies of leading players by the nose to every piece of content with the fallacy being that these games are so jammed full of content that most players aren't even going to finish the game, let alone track down every side quest. Like I mentioned before, it's a lack of confidence in your game design, much lack the
I didn't say it wasn't an RPG. I just don't think the RPG elements are anything special outside of the dialog choices. The character build choices feel largely inconsequential and that has a lot to do with how rote the combat is. And that's why I draw the Assassin's Creed/Batman comparisons, for the combat systems, not necessarily the open world design. I probably put in as much time with AC:Origins as I did Witcher 3 and I can tell you exactly the same information about both experiences which is hardly anything, as by in large, they are mostly forgettable. That's not saying either are bad, they are just easily flushed from the memory banks. And to be fair, Bloodborne's implementation of traditional Souls style character building is pretty bare bones. The only reason to start over with a fresh character in the game is to gain access to the rarest crafting materials to max out the various weapons. But I can still recall every nook and cranny of that world, every enemy encounter and every boss fight.
So what is memorable about the Witcher 3? To me, that is the dialog, characters and story so I don't see the TellTale comparison as a knock per se. I'd replay the hell out of the Witcher 3 if presented like The Walking Dead just to see the different narrative outcomes.
Maybe this is all "poor form" or maybe you take insult where there is none intended but I wouldn't count my chickens before they are hatched. I do bet you love Twilight though.
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martino
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You sure you know what game are you talking about here?
people are underestimating the weight of narration in games for lot of other people.
i mean ND is mostly that and lot of money in production value .... i think this example can speak to some of those people, can't it ?
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Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
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Where the hell is this "SONYGAF" I keep hearing about?
Bloodborne TM is available exclusively for the SONY PlayStation 4.
G. I. T. T!!
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Bloodborne TM is available exclusively for the SONY PlayStation 4.
G. I. T. T!!
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