GaviotaGrande
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It's a pre-built PC, this kind of shit is typical.
Never buy a pre-built
Xbox Series X WDSN530 has custom ASIC to support PCIe 4.0 (Tweaktown corrects PCIe 3.0 claims)
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BlueXImpulse
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Please we should not focus this thread on PS5 vs XSX loading as the truth will be unveiled soon.
We need to focus on the false advertising that seems to be happening before our very eyes!
We need to focus on the false advertising that seems to be happening before our very eyes!
Jaguar Victory
Member
Not a single one of you warriors realize that the memory controller determines PCIe Gen. I don't know what I expected.
ITS THE SPEED THEY SAID IT IS.
ITS THE SPEED THEY SAID IT IS.
MasterCornholio
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Yoboman
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LordOfChaos
Member
Not a single one of you warriors realize that the memory controller determines PCIe Gen. I don't know what I expected.
ITS THE SPEED THEY SAID IT IS.
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The MC and the SSD controller negotiate the PHY rate, which will be determined by the lowest supported component. Which in this case is the WD SN530, which can only support PCI-e 3.0.
Throwing any other component at a 3.0 drive isn't going to make it 4.0. It's a 3.0 drive and a 4.0 host, full stop.
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MasterCornholio
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They are one in the same for our friendWarnen
Ok I thought there might have been a leak with next gen titles.
MasterCornholio
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The first Destiny or Destiny 2?
Is there a next gen version of Destiny/Destiny 2 or are the systems running it through BC?
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Rocco Schiavone
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MasterCornholio
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They are not the ones selling it though.
Entroyp
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oldergamer
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because its 1TB and those are still expensive.
If the controller is what determines if its PCI-e 4, not the card itself, then this is no big deal and people are freaking out about nothing. whats suprising is nobody is commenting that it actually has higher bandwidth then 2.5GB/s advertised.
Yoboman
Member
I just need my damn Rocket League update with 120 fps. Still no info on next gen patches
So where are these Xbox Series X games that load in 2 seconds because I seen PS5 games load in 2 seconds
LordOfChaos
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MasterCornholio
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I mean I'm guessing Microsoft license the production to Seagate. But ultimately Seagate probably decides what to price them at.
Riky
$MSFT
Go and price up some 1tb CFexpress cards.
TBiddy
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The only people who are feeling/acting let down here are the usual Sony fans.
sircaw
Banned
They can do no wrong in your eyes I get it.
TBiddy
Member
Nice strawman.
martino
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posted by one and they are all there with one or multi post indeed.
But there is something not great here, even more if it's a retail XsX.
toxiichollow
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As soon as I opened this thread I knew I'll see the usual suspects... lol
BlueXImpulse
Banned
There's nothing wrong with the speed of the drive itself. The problem is it appears the drive is something they didn't say it was.
oldergamer
Member
Baloney. For me, a let down is having a small amount of space to store next gen games, or something that impacts things. This doesn't impact what MS advertised at all. They advertised 2.5 GB/s and we are likely getting 3.7GB/s
doesn't make sense to get let down by that.
oldergamer
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Why is that a problem? who does it affect? and where did they say this?
anothertech
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Craig
sircaw
Banned
It's just another long line of bullshit that Microsoft says and does that makes them come out as either not knowing what they are doing or rather they seem dishonest.
If you fall for it then that's great for you.
I don't.
And we are done here.
LordOfChaos
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Is one going to be the one I get first, yeah, but I've posted positive and negative news about either, and think I try to be fair. Platform preferences are one thing, discussing objective technical details is another. It's an interesting teardown. I've also opined the lack of auto HDR and 16x AF boosts on Sony's side. News is news, like it or not.
Linus Tech Tips - Series X vs One X video comparison
Auto HDR is a truly great feature.
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Great Hair
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They took forever to get the One X 4K patch out before so I don't have much faith. I would hope Epic would put more pressure on them, but the Fortnite next gen patch doesn't have 120 fps yet either.I just need my damn Rocket League update with 120 fps. Still no info on next gen patches
Yoboman
Member
Im hoping they are doing a bigger graphical update with the way they are staying quiet
But for a game that just went F2P, they should be trying everything to retain players as soon as they move to next gen
martino
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it's clear to me now that self awareness is not the main quality of your circle maybe you're doing it innocently....Is one going to be the one I get first, yeah, but I've posted positive and negative news about either, and think I try to be fair. News is news. It's an interesting teardown. I've also opined the lack of auto HDR and 16x AF boosts on Sony's side. News is news, like it or not.
Linus Tech Tips - Series X vs One X video comparison
Auto HDR is a truly great feature.www.neogaf.com
now let's get back to topic.
it's indeed a bad news for ms and could lead to class action if real (imo).
I really don't care, I'm not getting a xsx. This is false advertisement though, and against the law here in the UK, probably most countries too. Why not just say its gen 3 and save all the hassle?
kiphalfton
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So since they put in a gen3 NVME, it's gen4? Makes sense.
M1chl
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Fairly obvious honestly. Not sure why would they need PCIe 4 for 2.4GB/s... Not the mention inside is WD, but for expansion is Seagate, with...questionable reputation.
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
Be honest you only pretend to care to shit on Xbox. It's cool though. But c'mon at least approach it from that and not pretend concern.
sircaw
Banned
It's just fucking plan naughty, i mean i can not understand how people can not see this.
If its true and from what we can see, the evidence is right in front of them, you can't advertise one thing and then sell something else that is hidden away up some plates and screws.
I get there is console wars but GTFO out of here xbox people for defending this, this is surely against the law, you can surely get in shit for something like this.
Maybe this is ok for America or something, fuck knows what the standards are like over there, but in the UK and eu this is looking for a lot of trouble.
They don't stand for this type of shit.
Just advertise the right equipment with the right specs, its not hard.
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DynamiteCop!
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Yes, because they were still prototype units with explicit notification that while close they do not represent the final units.
This explains a lot around the loading times being better in retail units than the prototype testing that's been done previously.
Chris_Rivera
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We already knew PS5 had objectively faster storage, but this is just bound to rub fanboys wrong.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Technically just a CGI rendition, however they were always using technically accurate graphic for this...Seemingly dis does not seems like it's using much lanes:
ToadMan
Member
It came from this slide at hot chips
I'm just curious now how this all fits together...
Not being in any way an SSD aficionado I can't say what the impact of that might be.
I do wonder if it's something as simple as 2 Gen4 lanes being the equivalent of 4 gen 3 lanes though so the net loading speed is the same for internal and external.
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nikolino840
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What's the differences?
I mean...differences that you see with the eyes if you have two ssd in your hands
I mean...differences that you see with the eyes if you have two ssd in your hands