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[HarryKS]

I had COVID. I obviously am not at risk of dying from it.

What the hell is my advantage of taking it? No one can explain why.

You can get it again.

I am not advocating for the MRNA vaccines. I won't touch those.

 

[Cunth]

Too many people are going to avoid these vaccines for them to be effective. Not going near that shit

 

[GeorgPrime]

Arent the healthcare workers in america already immune to it after getting covid like 10 times?

 

[Mohonky]

Don't blame them and just goes to show you if they don't take it what they aren't telling us about the vaccine.

Its not a conspiracy.

I work healthcare, Im not keen on been given a shot of something that isnt well tested.

 

[Stiflers Mom]

Well okay, but it's just a really small number, maybe I was thinking small pox? Not sure now...

Poliomyelitis: Does polio still exist? Is it curable?

www.who.int

Two years ago on the wedding of one of my best friends was a really pretty girl in a wheelchair.
Her parents were anti vaxxers..

Polio is definitely still around.

 

[M1chl]

Two years ago on the wedding of one of my best friends was a really pretty girl in a wheelchair.
Her parents were anti vaxxers..

Polio is definitely still around.

I obviously fucked up the name of disease afterall, when you know something in your language and translate that to English, sometimes you fucked up.

 

[Stiflers Mom]

I obviously fucked up the name of disease afterall, when you know something in your language and translate that to English, sometimes you fucked up.

Ah, sorry, should have read the following posts before posting myself... ; )

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

I wonder how the media is going to portray this, since they spent the past year basically saying nurses are living gods, writing stories about how we failed them when we refused to do what King Fauci said, and how anyone who refuses the vaccine is a redneck retard.

Smallpox eradication took decades of massive global efforts, and for polio it is still ongoing. These are also diseases that are so self-evidently horrible that I doubt you'd find many people who would refuse the vaccine.

The big issue, the core issue, is that our society went ape shit over something that isn't a big deal, and people are drawing a line when it comes to injecting some untested beta vaccine into their body, understandably.

Haha, yeah, the narrative is gonna go from heroes to egotistic pieces of shit so quickly it won't be nice to watch.
Of course the higher-ups of healthcare in Italy are already peddling the idea on TV. Doctors who aren't OK with taking the jab now are being painted as irresponsible idiots, and there's those who are caressing the idea of making the vaccine mandatory already, at least for healthcare workers. The Prime Minister had to declare on TV that mandatory vaccination isn't in the papers right now.

Smallpox was a highly contagious disease with a 20% lethality rate and unmistakable signs. Much easier to diagnose than COVID, hit people of all ages, could leave horrible scars, couldn't be had twice in a lifetime. The original vaccine was literally cow pus, hardly something that would fly today.

Polio is extremely rare now, and whoever wants to dig into it a little will easily find out that most of the very few cases reported every year are actually caused by the vaccine itself. Diseases like polio were defeated more through sanitation and hygiene than through vaccines though, like any disease that spreads through orofecal transmission. Even the flu can be contained with masks and hand hygiene, as this winter is effectively showing.

The thing about most infectious diseases on which vaccination has built its reputation is, they are diseases that kill children. Smallpox, measles, polio, meningitis (both meningococcal and Haemophilus influenzae meningitis), pertussis and diphteria took a heavy toll on the infants throughout history, especially before the age of sanitation and food abundance (measles is extremely rarely fatal to a western-world child that's well fed and has no immune system deficiencies).
But with COVID, the situation is reversed. You can't peddle the idea that you're saving children taking the COVID jab. This makes it quite more difficult to be widely accepted already.

It's hilarious and sad at the same time how a lot of people are scared shitless of COVID, much more than the numbers would require, but those same people are hesitant about taking the shot while at the same time they want all healthcare personnel to take it. And I think we will see sanctions against reluctant doctors and nurses in the near future, because scared people need a scapegoat and they will turn on yesterday's "heroes" with a little push from MSM.

 

[eot]

It's hilarious and sad at the same time how a lot of people are scared shitless of COVID, much more than the numbers would require, but those same people are hesitant about taking the shot while at the same time they want all healthcare personnel to take it. And I think we will see sanctions against reluctant doctors and nurses in the near future, because scared people need a scapegoat and they will turn on yesterday's "heroes" with a little push from MSM.

How do you know those are the same people? I'd assume people who are scared shitless of COVID would be the first ones to take the vaccine.

 

[Jethalal]

Two years ago on the wedding of one of my best friends was a really pretty girl in a wheelchair.
Her parents were anti vaxxers..

Polio is definitely still around.

This is why I fear anti-vaxx shit. India is free of polio after a massive vaccination campaign. We went from one of the worst hit to polio free due to the campaign. Gladly there is no such antivaxx stuff here and I doubt there would be.

 

[Redneckerz]

It was just announced here that ER medical staff will get it here first, with other medical staff to follow after.

Seems that ill be up for the count then. Ill report back if i haven't mutated yet.

 

[crazepharmacist]

Don't blame them and just goes to show you if they don't take it what they aren't telling us about the vaccine.

nah I'm a healthcare worker and i can tell you first hand I work with a lot of idiots.
Nothing sinister going on

 

[crazepharmacist]

myself included, and I've been balls deep on the front line since the beginning

because,
1. we don't know if it prevents transmission
2. we don't know if this will be a yearly thing like the flu (no thanks, I am not 65+ and my life is not at risk.)
3. I don't want to feel sickly for even half a day, pathetic I know

I feel like people over 65 should have been first priority here, not health care workers. maybe health care workers above 50 or something

What about healthcare workers who live with mom and dad?
I ain't bringing this shit home and killing my parents. My RN buddy who's my age (in his 20s) just got it. He's fine of course but his mom caught it from him and just died.
I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I gave it to them and something happened.
One more shot to go for me.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

How do you know those are the same people? I'd assume people who are scared shitless of COVID would be the first ones to take the vaccine.

Because I know a few.

Scared of getting COVID even if they're relatively young and with no additional risk factors, but they're all waiting for their doctor to tell them what to do. You'd have guessed they'd want to be first in line for the jab a couple months ago.

 

[crazepharmacist]

this isn't going to work in the US since 3 out of 4 people need to take it. Maybe one day, but not anytime soon

If you're right then we can just open the economy back up and go back to normal. Those of us who are vaccinated have nothing to worry about. Those of you who continue to get sick and die have no one but yourselves to blame

 

[Deleted member 1159]

It seems like people who are anti vaccine are also disproportionately anti mask, anti lockdowns, and think the numbers are all fake.

Also the world is definitely run by a giant cabal and Jesus will be back next Tuesday. And yes you can believe all of that and become an RN or MD

 

[evanft]

Priority should be given to those most likely to have to go to the hospital if they get infected. I don't know if a young nurse would be in that group.

 

[12Goblins]

What about healthcare workers who live with mom and dad?
I ain't bringing this shit home and killing my parents. My RN buddy who's my age (in his 20s) just got it. He's fine of course but his mom caught it from him and just died.
I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I gave it to them and something happened.
One more shot to go for me.

Again, I don't think we really know if it prevents transmission, so still be careful.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

My sister in law is an EMT. She has already had the VID and does not want the vaccine. She doesn't need it.

Give it to the olds. Most young people even if they get the disease will be fine. It's time to stop ruining the world over this.

 

[008]

Too many people are going to avoid these vaccines for them to be effective. Not going near that shit

Thats the main problem with all this. How in the world are they going to get 3 out of 4 people to take the vaccine for it to work?

 

[008]

If you're right then we can just open the economy back up and go back to normal. Those of us who are vaccinated have nothing to worry about. Those of you who continue to get sick and die have no one but yourselves to blame

Sounds good to me. Florida is already opened up. The other states need to get their shit together.

 

[Punished Miku]

yes you can believe all of that and become an RN or MD

Yep. I'm in healthcare, and it's really just playing out along political lines like everyone else.

In nursing school you don't learn anything about the details of vaccine physiology. I don't know if even doctors actually learn that in detail. It's pretty much specialists and biochemical researchers that actually design these things.

All you're getting from a random healthcare worker is going to be their impressions based on the internet, and the same disinformation mixture everyone else is dealing with.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

myself included, and I've been balls deep on the front line since the beginning

because,
1. we don't know if it prevents transmission
2. we don't know if this will be a yearly thing like the flu (no thanks, I am not 65+ and my life is not at risk.)
3. I don't want to feel sickly for even half a day, pathetic I know

I feel like people over 65 should have been first priority here, not health care workers. maybe health care workers above 50 or something

Seriously, after being balls deep in the front line for almost a year, I imagine a lot of health care workers can safely assume they have some level of immunity.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

If you're right then we can just open the economy back up and go back to normal. Those of us who are vaccinated have nothing to worry about. Those of you who continue to get sick and die have no one but yourselves to blame

That's where you're wrong dude. No vaccine has 100% efficacy, and you can't actually verify whether or not it worked, and we also don't know for sure if any of these vaccines block transmissibility to others, so you should be prepared to keep that mask on and continue social distancing and Staying Home to Save Lives for the foreseeable future, vaccine or not. According to the experts and policy makers, at least!

 

[Deleted member 1159]

Seriously, after being balls deep in the front line for almost a year, I imagine a lot of health care workers can safely assume they have some level of immunity.

In the case of my wife, we just got over COVID in November and she's due in about 3 weeks so we figure there's no need to get the vaccine until she's had the baby. It's probably totally fine but with the assumption she's still got immunity and everything it seems like waiting a couple weeks in no big deal. I wonder if she'd be counted in the 40% for delaying a bit

 

[Deleted member 17706]

In the case of my wife, we just got over COVID in November and she's due in about 3 weeks so we figure there's no need to get the vaccine until she's had the baby. It's probably totally fine but with the assumption she's still got immunity and everything it seems like waiting a couple weeks in no big deal. I wonder if she'd be counted in the 40% for delaying a bit

I would imagine (or hope) that most people saying "no" are actually saying "not yet."

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

It was just announced here that ER medical staff will get it here first, with other medical staff to follow after.

Seems that ill be up for the count then. Ill report back if i haven't mutated yet.

Damn, J.D. is gonna get the vaccine first?!

 

[sinnergy]

How do you know those are the same people? I'd assume people who are scared shitless of COVID would be the first ones to take the vaccine.

Yup I am not scared ,I am living my life a good as I can with following all the measures.. won't take the shot .

 

[Redneckerz]

Damn, J.D. is gonna get the vaccine first?!

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

I'd kill to have a new season of Scrubs based on the CoViD pandemic

 

[Clarissa]

I'll take the vaccine asap even if the side effect means a penis growing out of my forehead.

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

I'll take the vaccine asap even if the side effect means a penis growing out of my forehead.

Somehow, your friends seems a lot more saner than you right now

 

[CrilleS]

Why are so many of you so afraid of the vaccine? They have been through the same tests that every other vaccine needs to pass to get accepted by the FDA and EMA (Europe). Yes they have been developed very quick compared to other vaccines but have you taken into consideration that the companies and universities have received millions by governments to complete these vaccines as fast as possible? Litterally all other projects has been put aside in these companies as top priorities so researc and create these and of course FDA and EMA puts them ahead of the line when its time to validate the results of phase 1, 2 and 3. Normally it takes a very long time to complete the phase 1, 2 and 3 approvals with the FDA and EMA because there is ALOT of products every year that needs to be validated and assesed. Of course the vaccines gets through quicker because we are in a middle of a pandemic...

Yes if you are young and healthy it is not as important to get the vaccine because it's mainly older men and women who gets very sick from COVID but there is still cases where younger people get very sick or even dies.

I really don't understand the skeptism regarding the vaccine.

 

[Clarissa]

Somehow, your friends seems a lot more saner than you right now

I just can't wait for life to go back to normal. A life without wearing masks, social distancing and able to travel without worries. I want to be able to attend parties and concerts again. And I'm also really sad to see businesses closing down due to Covid.

 

[jimmyd]

Get ready to take the damn vaccine you flat earther, 5G-tower knocking micro-penis conspiracist freaks

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

I just can't wait for life to go back to normal. A life without wearing masks, social distancing and able to travel without worries. I want to be able to attend parties and concerts again. And I'm also really sad to see businesses closing down due to Covid.

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

Get ready to take the damn vaccine you flat earther, 5G-tower knocking micro-penis conspiracist freaks

You sound like a reetard, no offense.

 

[Barakov]

Can't blame them. Honestly, if I still have to wear a face mask then this vaccine is pointless to me. Especially considering how you can't sue Pfizer or Moderna if you get balls palsy from there vaccines. It's a giant sham. I'll just continue to wait this one out.

 

[jimmyd]

You sound like a reetard, no offense.

You must be all of those things I said

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

You must be all of those things I said

Ok reetard.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Yep. I'm in healthcare, and it's really just playing out along political lines like everyone else.

In nursing school you don't learn anything about the details of vaccine physiology. I don't know if even doctors actually learn that in detail. It's pretty much specialists and biochemical researchers that actually design these things.

All you're getting from a random healthcare worker is going to be their impressions based on the internet, and the same disinformation mixture everyone else is dealing with.

I know for a fact that, in some countries at least, they don't.

Medical education about vaccines is: vaccines exist. Smallpox doesn't anymore. You get your vaccines, you vaccinate all the kids, and you do all you can to get older people get the vaccines they can get. Here's the national vaccine schedule, get on with it.

If anyone thinks their doctor knows about the COVID vaccine more than you can get from the Internet, think again.

 

[diffusionx]

I just can't wait for life to go back to normal. A life without wearing masks, social distancing and able to travel without worries. I want to be able to attend parties and concerts again. And I'm also really sad to see businesses closing down due to Covid.

Well then you should be concerned about the messaging coming from King Fauci and the rest of the medical bureaucrats these days then.

 

[miami]

Good, more for the rest of us. With the vaccine out, the only ones they will fuck over is themselves.

 

[Hari Seldon]

For once I'm glad I'm last in line.

 

[crazepharmacist]

That's where you're wrong dude. No vaccine has 100% efficacy, and you can't actually verify whether or not it worked, and we also don't know for sure if any of these vaccines block transmissibility to others, so you should be prepared to keep that mask on and continue social distancing and Staying Home to Save Lives for the foreseeable future, vaccine or not. According to the experts and policy makers, at least!

Well apparently it's 95% effective. And even if you're unlucky and end up in that 5% window and get covid, they say it won't be as bad. Meaning you can probably just stay home for a week or two and get over it yourself without medicine or going to the hospital.
I'm not masking up for a 5% chance of transmitting something that is essentially a cold at that point for those who are vaccinated.
Fuck that.

 

[Outrunner]

There is nothing from this century that had any serious harm, brother. Ofcourse the regulatory commissions have improved a lot since.

Side effects usually present immediately after the vaccine or in the two months following. These vaccines are safe, remains only to be known if it will prevent transmission (but experience with vaccines indicates it might), for how long you are protected and how safe it is in immunocompromised groups.

 

[Hudo]

I mean, they're free to not take it if they don't want to but they should be removed from their positions and suspended/fired.

But I bet that GAF's medical experts will tell me that vaccines are a meme and/or a conspiracy.

 

[Flame_alchemist]

Why are so many of you so afraid of the vaccine? They have been through the same tests that every other vaccine needs to pass to get accepted by the FDA and EMA (Europe). Yes they have been developed very quick compared to other vaccines but have you taken into consideration that the companies and universities have received millions by governments to complete these vaccines as fast as possible? Litterally all other projects has been put aside in these companies as top priorities so researc and create these and of course FDA and EMA puts them ahead of the line when its time to validate the results of phase 1, 2 and 3. Normally it takes a very long time to complete the phase 1, 2 and 3 approvals with the FDA and EMA because there is ALOT of products every year that needs to be validated and assesed. Of course the vaccines gets through quicker because we are in a middle of a pandemic...

Yes if you are young and healthy it is not as important to get the vaccine because it's mainly older men and women who gets very sick from COVID but there is still cases where younger people get very sick or even dies.

I really don't understand the skeptism regarding the vaccine.

Ppl keep forgetting we are able to get a rocket to the moon in just 4 years just so we can beat the Russians.

The only thing I'm might be worried Is the long term affects since it wasn't deeply tested.

But with all the shit I already put in my body a vaccine is the least of my worries.

 

[carlosrox]

they must be sCiEnCE dENIeRs