ClosBSAS
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it did, but in the long run all of them have outsold console sales. all of them. this just proves the pc audience is ready for bloodborne and demons souls, its more hardcore than the console one and thats a fucking fact.
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[Gamesindustry.biz] In Europe 44% of Elden Ring Sales Were on PC
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Guilty_AI
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The shortages also apply to GPUs tho.
Accompanying steam hardware survey, next-gen GPU usage has been growing at similar rate to the sales of PS5s. When you include middle range hardware closer to a Series S the number also goes up dramatically, which can explain why it sold more on PC than on ps5, and will probably continue to do so.
sircaw
Banned
That's true, there is no denying the game has sold well on PC, and rightfully so, it's a fantastic game.
It's just not the gotcha moment some of the fanatics are trying to make out.
slade
Member
How about we make it PS consoles vs HP and Acer PC's. Where did Elden Ring sell more.
Your thread is stupid and you should be ashamed of your words and your deeds.
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
some people are gonna have to eat some crow on this one.
Sentenza
Member
This reads like weaponized autism at the service of console warring.
HP? Acer? What the fuck are you even blabbing about?
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Guilty_AI
Member
It does demonstrate what many have said (especially when talking about possible Bloodborne pc ports) that Souls games are a huge deal on PC. Some users here would still dismiss those claims.
sircaw
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skit_data
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I'd love to see a Bloodborne PC release, as I think that's the best possibility that we will see a PS5 version. Demon's Souls will probably get a PC release at some point since it was in the Nvidia leaks.
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DrSerigala
Member
Biggest game launch since 2016. So it is confirmed then ER bigger than cyberpunk 2077.
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Thirty7ven
Banned
Why is it that places like Gamesindustry like to split PS but they won't extend the courtesy to Xbox?
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
i was told over and over that most of the souls players were on PS when those steam concurrent numbers started to get huge.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Not really. The more people getting the definitive version with less limitations, the better.
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Guilty_AI
Member
The criteria you should use here is simple. Can the same copy of the game be used across the different boxes? If yes, those boxes can be treated as the same platform on that instance, if not, they can't.
My steam's Elden Ring can be used across all pc boxes, as such all PCs are the same platform. Same can be said for ps4+ps5 and XSX+XSS+XOne. But you cant play your XSX copy on a PS5, thus you can't put them together.
Firestartah
Banned
PC gaming is the sensation right now. Open platform, fully compatible, better controls, mods, better prices/sales, its just the best.
I remember the dark age of '06 - '08 , GabeN really saved PC gaming with Steam.
Sadly we already have desperate Sony fanbois "uuh yea but PS is only 4% behind! we close also i swear" . Yea bitches, u second, now go play some horizon with alloy and her bloated face, we're busy modding ER.
I remember the dark age of '06 - '08 , GabeN really saved PC gaming with Steam.
Sadly we already have desperate Sony fanbois "uuh yea but PS is only 4% behind! we close also i swear" . Yea bitches, u second, now go play some horizon with alloy and her bloated face, we're busy modding ER.
ethomaz
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It is included.
Seems like they are the same SKU for Dying Light…. there are only one version (that what I was thought in another thread).
Some games had different SKUs.
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Interfectum
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ethomaz
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You are half right.
PC was the best selling platform (ignoring PC have different platforms).
But you failed to realize consoles are still selling the biggest chunk.
Plus the posted data incomplete lacking several country physical sales which is all consoles.
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Sygma
Member
shocking that after a decade of From games historically not running that well on consoles, customers prefer the pc version to brute force issues instead of paying more for an inferior version.
on the other way around, have a look at the state of Fifa on pc vs consoles
Besides this just shows Europe
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ethomaz
Banned
I don't actually believes the gaming PC users are bigger than console users… in fact Steam has lower active base than PlayStation for example.what if there are more PCs though?
Steam keeps on breaking records. PC gaming is bigger than it's ever been. So i don't get your argument.
Now PC general users is in billions but most don't don't play games or ever installed one outside the bundles Solitarie.
winjer
Gold Member
We could also argue that the Microsoft platforms is where the game sold the most. With 60% sales.
ethomaz
Banned
60% are on Windows Store?
I mean MS doesn't get a cent from Steam, GoG, etc… they only get revenue from Windows Store version on PC.
So Xbox + Windows Store are indeed MS gaming platforms.
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Belthazar
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PC is also not a single platform
Zeroing
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Neogaf is becoming predictable. Not to brag but I knew where this thread was heading to...
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Why would you count Microsoft in with pc? They don't make a dime of Elden RIng.
Belthazar
Member
The game isn't even available on the Windows Store, as it's basically a non-factor in PC gaming.
Not 100% sure that's true anymore.
Steam MAU is 132m
PS MAU is 110m.
How many of that 132m can run Elden Ring I don't know.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
How so? Hardware is different but that makes no difference to a steam sale. Linux? That's maybe one percent of pc's. If that.
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Thirty7ven
Banned
You could if PC was a MS platform, but it isn't, it's an open platform. If you're a big fanboy you'll certainly try and convince us otherwise, but before you start please remember to address how MS is getting a cut from a steam sale.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Damn, that PC number is way higher than I expected.
NickFire
Member
How do we know they get that data? MS is notoriously secret about numbers.
As for the splits overall, I cant say it's entirely shocking. There just aren't that many new gen consoles out there yet.
It comes from retailers via GFK, GSD
JackSparr0w
Banned
Steam alone has 22m more active users than PSN and some of the most popular PC games such as league of legends, valorant, warzone, world of warcraft, escape from tarkov, fortnite etc. are not even available on steam.
There is really no comparison PC gaming is on it's own league in terms of popularity and you can see that everywhere youtube, twitchtv and esports all dominated by PC gaming.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Just don't see the point in splitting hairs, unless to make a number look better.
Belthazar
Member
PC is home to quite a few ecosystems, with Steam, GOG, Epic, Windows Stores, etc. About Linux, that ratio of players using it to access Steam can increase substantially if the Deck picks up.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
That's true but they are all still PC. PC is an open platform. Consoles are not. Should steam sales be counted separately from GOG, epic etc.? I've never heard that argument.
Belthazar
Member
Xbox only has a single SKU for most games and sales data is released as such. And it's probably not worth investigating the exact ratio of players in each generation due to the number being so small.
ethomaz
Banned
I think he means if you buy a game on Steam you need Steam to play it.
You can't play a Steam game on Windows Store or EGS for example.
The Steam is the platform like Windows Store, GoG, EGS, etc… they are not compatible with each other.
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Belthazar
Member
Yes? The money is going to completely different pockets
Thirty7ven
Banned
They could easily have said total numbers and then the splits in the article. It is what it is, I know where these people are coming from.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Are they not still all on PC though? That's what we are talking about. TOTAL sales on PC. Does Sony not include games sold at Walmart when talking about sales?
winjer
Gold Member
That was just an example to show how easy it is to manipulate how we perceive data. Which was what ethomas was doing when he said all consoles sold more than PC.
Xbox and PS are both consoles, but they are different platforms. From different companies, different OS, different APIs, different controllers, etc.
MS owns Windows and Xbox. And they both use similar OS and APIs. So one could make an argument they could be grouped together.
Or, we could just consider these platforms as the separate entities that they truly are.
Sentenza
Member
The bolded claim is almost hilariously wrong.
And generally speaking the PC gaming market has been larger than any individual console market for a while.
The main difference is that PC gaming isn't generally led by one or two seasonal blockbusters, but fragmented in thousands of of specific niches (MMOs, 4X/grand strategy, sims, action games, shooters, etc, etc) and even more games that keep selling concurrently.
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Total numbers is what the people who buy into the gsd/GFK pay for. They still have restrictions on what they can share to protect the commercial model of gfk/GSD, you do get that right?
Belthazar
Member
That's not the same, that would be like Steam not counting Steam keys sold through other retailers.