Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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GHG
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Cross platform multiplayer came about because xbox realised the playerbase for multiplatform games on their platform was getting increasingly small. They stood to benefit the most so created a dishonest PR campaign to make it look like anyone who didn't immediately kneel to their wishes was evil.
It was akin to a man sinking his own boat through self sabotage and incompetence and then begging passers by to throw him a lifebuoy.
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Drell
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FF XVII will maybe come to Xbox while Elder Scroll 6 won't ever come outside of any MS' OS/Consoles.
GHG
Gold Member
Tried explaining this at the time. The kids who started gaming with the Xbox One (unfortunate souls) didn't understand.
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TheGodfather07
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Microsoft: The regulators aren't satisfied with a 10 year deal? Then how about... A 10 year deal!?
... to Nintendo. The regulators don't give a fuck about Nintendo in regards to this deal. This is just Microsoft trying to look like the good guys. Oh look at us! We'll bring cod to Nintendo too! Evil Sony wants to stop us!
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KungFucius
King Snowflake
When did COD stop being an annual release? When did they drop output by 60-70%?
Thirty7ven
Banned
Is there a game out there that has had less port begging campaigns on switch?
Yoboman
Member
https://www.xfire.com/activision-no-more-annual-call-of-duty-release/
Pretty sure they are skipping 2023 for the first time.
jm89
Member
Intially they were going to skip 2023, but recently they said another cod is coming in 2023. Do wonder if the change of mind has anything to do with not wanting to miss this year and taking a financial hit if the deal falls through, and potential step daddy ms won't be able to finance them missing a year. Last bit is just me putting on my tinfoil hat.
Then it would make it even less relevant asking what percentage was from xbox if it has nothing to do with unions.
Also wierd that you point out that the 10k layoffs are from different departments and ask for splits yet attribute $1.2B entirely to severance packages. The $1.2B charge to earnings was not all severance packages.
Ar¢tos
Member
I thought it had changed to biannual releases, I'm probably confusing with something else.
ToadMan
Member
When the terms of the agreement SE entered into with Sony is up.
You must be familiar with that concept - it happened with Deathloop - even happened with The Medium.
When is Starfield coming to PS and Switch again?
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pasterpl
Member
Now we got to stealing? Wtf?
pasterpl
Member
Any news on that link to stats of % of layoffs at MS in Xbox division?
phil_t98
#SonyToo
who's is stealing?
KungFucius
King Snowflake
I vaguely remember this, but since I am not a COD player, I must have not cared enough to remember. Is there any more details on how they plan to do this? Google tells me there is still going to be a full COD in 2023 as of early this month, but it also shows me links confirming the above. Maybe they are just planning more reuse but still packaging it as an annual 70 dollar package.
Andodalf
Banned
lmao, so it’s epic and based when sony funds and develops spider-man, one of the biggest IP in the world, which has never been exclusive, but evil if MS does it with tes VI, when literally only one tes game has launched on PS day one
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
So if they win he should get all the credit right?I know you are trying to be sarcastic, but they really don't know what they are doing. Otherwise, this would have been smooth sailing, wouldn't it?
Also, Brad Smith is the guy who compared Sony with Blockbuster (dead) and Microsoft/Xbox with Netflix (the killer of Blockbuster), which helped CMA establish that this acquisition is anti-competitive.
And Brad is also the guy that the CMA quoted twice -- and both instances damaged Microsoft's case.
The first statement threw out Microsoft's claim that this acquisition is primarily for King and the want to compete against Google and Apple. His second statement helped CMA discard Nintendo as a direct competitor, leaving only Sony as the affected party in the gaming console market. lol.
So, yeah, Brad really doesn't know what he is doing lol. That's why they are losing this case.
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JLB
Banned
I played Subset Overdrive on PS to death - loved that game!
Sorry, did you actually have a point or are these false analogies all you have?
Exactly the point.
Stuart360
Member
Ha ha, is the deal not going to go through?, i got bored of this saga long ago and havent been following it.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
Microsoft Announces ‘Call Of Duty’ Deal With Nintendo Further Pressure Sony And Regulators
Microsoft Announces ‘Call Of Duty’ Deal With Nintendo Further Pressure Sony And Regulators
A week cannot go by without more absurdity happening in Microsoft’s quest to get its nearly $70 billion acquisition of Activision Blizzard approved by regulators.
www.forbes.com
this deal was announced on dec 7 last year , not sure why people are hyping this , it was offered to jim ryan too and he rejected it
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pasterpl
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I know you are trying to be sarcastic, but they really don't know what they are doing. Otherwise, this would have been smooth sailing, wouldn't it?
Also, Brad Smith is the guy who compared Sony with Blockbuster (dead) and Microsoft/Xbox with Netflix (the killer of Blockbuster), which helped CMA establish that this acquisition is anti-competitive.
And Brad is also the guy that the CMA quoted twice -- and both instances damaged Microsoft's case.
The first statement threw out Microsoft's claim that this acquisition is primarily for King and the want to compete against Google and Apple. His second statement helped CMA discard Nintendo as a direct competitor, leaving only Sony as the affected party in the gaming console market. lol.
So, yeah, Brad really doesn't know what he is doing lol. That's why they are losing this case.
Not sure that deal of this size in any vertical would be smooth sailing for anyone. Sorry mate, but I tend to trust real lawyers vs forum warriors in real life. I guess we will see if he knows what he is doing when the deal closes/collapses.
Completely not related, maybe a bit.
But This reminds of these ongoing statements;
- Xbox doesn’t have games while in fact it have shit tons of games
- at XGS every developer is in development hell - while their are not
- Gampass will destroy gaming - while it is actually enable more people to play
- streaming games (especially when someone mentions xcloud) is shit - while lots of people use it (me included) and it is quite awesome, but vr is future but only by Sony others are sh*t
- any game from XGS will be delayed - literally in almost every thread about XGS you have got warriors with the same message (and magic balls
)- new one - MS trillion dollar lawyers don’t know what they are doing
On this forum Ms is sh*t at everything, OS, Cloud, Streaming, Gaming etc. they lawyers don’t know what they are doing, they laying off people while having big offices and parties (how dare they, they should sell some of their offices to keep those people employed, and disregard the fact that company is pivoting). And of course no one mention about 1.2 billion severance package for these people, remember, nothing positive about MS.
Now conclusion; How the f*ck such a FUBAR company can then be valued at trillions of dollars. And keep reporting profits at levels that would allow then to afford to buy Sony after couple quarters.
HoofHearted
Member
Ha ha, is the deal not going to go through?, i got bored of this saga long ago and havent been following it.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No they've since retracted that. CoD will get a "premium" release this year.
Drell
Member
Your missing my point. What I said is that now that MS owns Bethesda, there will never be any of their games outside of their ecosystem. Because MS OWNS them.
Sony doesn't OWN Spiderman. They payed for the Insomniac games, of course, but Spiderman games can always appears on MS platforms (and other competitors) in the future.
And no, what Sony does is not "based". It's a marketing deal. Only a fanboy would applaud them for this. It's just that it's less evil than buying an entire publisher just because you have the money and won't try to do it by providing quality content.
GHG
Gold Member
Ha ha, is the deal not going to go through?, i got bored of this saga long ago and havent been following it.
If you value your fingers, stay away.
JLB
Banned
What I'm saying is that you look very concern about competitive issues when that affects Sony, but not otherwise.
I have not said a word when Sony bought Insomniac.
See the difference?
JLB
Banned
We can use Bungie if that makes you feel better.
GHG
Gold Member
Honestly I hope they are just being disinegous cunts because they are being rewarded in some way for doing so.
I say that because the alternative simply means they are thick as two planks.
JLB
Banned
Im not talking about publishers, not sure how that is related at all.
Im using the same, broader argument of competitiveness concerns that most here are bragging about.
FUBARx89
Member
Sure, use the dev company that's essentially a whore
Been tied to Apple. Microsoft. Activision & now Sony.
But if you wanna use Bungie. Sure. Not asif Bungie & Sony haven't both said they're staying 3rd party.
Which is far more concrete than the drivel Spencer spewed when buying Bethesda of "case by case" basis, then made everything exclusive.
Bit of a difference there.
intheinbetween
Member
I can tell you there are no stats yet for any BU/team/division at MS. Layoffs will happen through Q3 which ends on March 31st, so stats should be available by then, if they're shared ofc.
GHG
Gold Member
FUBARx89
Member
Must be thick as 2 planks of wood. They have to be. There's not way you can compare Sony purchases to Bethesda & Activision.
As for Spiderman which I've seen mentioned. MS passed on a Spiderman game to focus on it's own IP's, they themselves could of quite easily took it and asked Insomniac to work on it as they where independent at the time.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Not sure that deal of this size in any vertical would be smooth sailing for anyone. Sorry mate, but I tend to trust real lawyers vs forum warriors in real life. I guess we will see if he knows what he is doing when the deal closes/collapses.
Completely not related, maybe a bit.
But This reminds of these ongoing statements;
- Xbox doesn’t have games while in fact it have shit tons of games
- at XGS every developer is in development hell - while their are not
- Gampass will destroy gaming - while it is actually enable more people to play
- streaming games (especially when someone mentions xcloud) is shit - while lots of people use it (me included) and it is quite awesome, but vr is future but only by Sony others are sh*t
- any game from XGS will be delayed - literally in almost every thread about XGS you have got warriors with the same message (and magic balls
- new one - MS trillion dollar lawyers don’t know what they are doing
On this forum Ms is sh*t at everything, OS, Cloud, Streaming, Gaming etc. they lawyers don’t know what they are doing, they laying off people while having big offices and parties (how dare they, they should sell some of their offices to keep those people employed, and disregard the fact that company is pivoting). And of course no one mention about 1.2 billion severance package for these people, remember, nothing positive about MS.
Now conclusion; How the f*ck such a FUBAR company can then be valued at trillions of dollars. And keep reporting profits at levels that would allow then to afford to buy Sony after couple quarters.
Microsoft != Xbox division
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Doesn't matter. You still owe us a finger-cutting-live-video if and when this is overHa ha, is the deal not going to go through?, i got bored of this saga long ago and havent been following it.
Drell
Member
As long as Microsoft has an knterrest in gaining market shares in the gaming space, Microsoft = Xbox division.
Stuart360
Member
Doesn't matter. You still owe us a finger-cutting-live-video if and when this is over
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