Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?


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JLB

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I’m not concerned about MS - ABK. Its already dead, there’s nothing to be concerned about. The regulators follow their rules and are doing their job.

You don’t understand those rules - if you did you wouldn’t attempt such a juvenile false equivalence assertion.

do you want an avatar bet?
 
Sony could never afford the pricing. MS couldn't either. Getting them Call of Duty on PS+ is pretty unfair in my opinion. Keeping it available at retail and PSN store is more than fine. MS had to spend 70 billion to be able to get COD on Gamepass. Sony would have to pay hundreds of millions for a fair price to have it on PS+ on day one, maybe more. But I don't expect anything fair from the CMA at this point.

No, they didn't have to pay $70 billion to get COD on Game Pass. They're paying $70 billion to get COMPLETE OWNERSHIP of COD and every other ABK IP & asset.

Funny you are talking about lack of fairness for Microsoft yet are being unfair on the actual reason why Microsoft are paying a premium for ABK.

Well this latest report isn't regarding the CMA it's the EC who are still maintaining concerns regarding subscriptions service.

Sony not being able to afford to put it on ps plus, is exactly the reason why EC can't be idiotic enough to let MS dictate the pricing of putting it on something ps plus.

MS biggest reasons for this acqusition is actually not cod but king as they have been telling us :messenger_tears_of_joy:, so shouldn't be a big problem agreeing on a fair price to put cod on ps plus right? As the bigger picture is mobile....

It's not even about that and, maybe when you say "Sony can't afford the pricing", you are alluding to what I'm going to bring up next. But I do want to bring it up briefly.

COD being a Day 1 in PS+ would completely screw over PlayStation's business model. They'd be leaving revenue on the table due to a drop in direct sales and not getting enough in increased sub revenue to offset it. They'd have to pay for getting the game in PS+ whereas Microsoft can throw COD into Game Pass for no extra cost.

And the real whammy: COD in PS+ Day 1 will train PS customers to expect more big AAA games Day 1 into the service, including Sony's own, and also start training them to not buy new releases Day 1 (or in some cases, at all, becoming content with what is just in the service).

For Microsoft, these kind of consequences mean nothing because Xbox is so little of their total revenue and profit stream. For Sony, gaming is MUCH more important to their bottom line, and these consequences would be the death of PlayStation.
 
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pasterpl

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No you didn’t…. Not a single one because…

The FTC hasn’t lost a case in its administrative court process.
They have lost a case internally, even 2 last year, and then appealed, again internally and won all of the appeals. Doesn't change the FACT that they lost initially in their internal, controlled by them court, and had to appeal to get their decision made their way. What is so hard to understand?
 

Varteras

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Not even a surprise. One thing to have stock in a company; another altogether to have it influence you to push a narrative on what should be open discourse where both sides are allowed to (respectfully) agree or disagree.

Reset really needs to weed out the bad faith actors.

The issue there is ResetEra was created by bad faith actors in the first place and then lined their teams with the same kind of people. The ones who own it now don't give a shit. They bought it for the potential revenue. The only way they'll step in is if the forum starts collapsing. Which actually would happen if they started replacing the people in charge with less bias personalities. Because the moment sanity, reason, and discourse gets put in place there, about 90% of the members will run out like nuns caught in a dildo shop.
 
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Astray

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Very curious that Dring wrote an article to stop enthusiasm about the deal soon today.
The Wire Wtf GIF
Both sides are briefing and counter-briefing press as fits their needs.

And from what I'm seeing, Dring tends to be the Sony counterpart of Tom Warren, constantly tweeting positive news about the platform with a "neutral-ish" tone.
 

KungFucius

King Snowflake
I thought it had changed to biannual releases, I'm probably confusing with something else.
No it is confusing. It was announced that it was moving to a service in early 2022 but then announced that there is a premium annual release earlier this month. One could read this as them being confident that the deal will go through early last year and being OK with not selling a shitload of 70 dollar games each year, to them seeing that the deal is troubled and needing to backtrack to keep their share prices from tanking.
 

Banjo64

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Brad Smith at Microsoft has announced a new deal with Nvidia, that will bring Call of Duty and all Xbox games (that are on PC) to its services. "Nvidia's GeForce Now service already has 25 million" players, Smith says.
Microsoft will be bringing its Xbox games, that play on PC, to Nvidia's Geforce service. If the deal is approved, it will bring Activision Blizzard's games to GeForce Now, too, including Call of Duty.
17:46 PM
Brad Smith is on stage right now to brief the media. He's reminding us that they've promised to make Call of Duty on Nintendo consoles.
17:08 PM
Hello! We are live in Brussels. Microsoft has been meeting with Sony and many of its peers at the European Commission, and is now about to brief the media.
 

KungFucius

King Snowflake
The issue there is ResetEra was created by bad faith actors in the first place and then lined their teams with the same kind of people. The ones who own it now don't give a shit. They bought it for the potential revenue. The only way they'll step in is if the forum starts collapsing. Which actually would happen if they started replacing the people in charge with less bias personalities. Because the moment sanity, reason, and discourse gets put in place there, about 90% of the members will run out like nuns caught in a dildo shop.
I'm curious about your analogy. While it is clear that the nuns are running out of that dildo shop to go home and play with a newly acquired dildo, what are the Reetards running out to do?
 

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HeisenbergFX4

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17:50 PM
Microsoft is now listing all the companies and organisations that support the Activision Blizzard deal. Including Nvidia, Valve, and more.
 

Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
"Brad Smith at Microsoft has announced a new deal with Nvidia, that will bring Call of Duty and all Xbox games (that are on PC) to its services."

Edit: Okay, others are doing it, so I'm gonna stop 😄
 
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HeisenbergFX4

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17:53 PM
Brad Smith: "Regulators is not here to protect super dominant companies. Believe me, I know."
17:52 PM
Microsoft says it is 'more than ready' to answer regulator concerns.
Brad Smith says: "Think about the market in Europe. It is a market where Sony has an 80% share. Globally, it is about 70/30. In Japan, it is 96/4. These numbers have been remarkably steady for two decades. Even last year, when there were issues with Sony's supply chain, they came back strong."
Sony outsold Microsoft by 69/31 towards the end of last year.
 

Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
17:53 PM
Brad Smith: "Regulators is not here to protect super dominant companies. Believe me, I know."
17:52 PM
Microsoft says it is 'more than ready' to answer regulator concerns.
Brad Smith says: "Think about the market in Europe. It is a market where Sony has an 80% share. Globally, it is about 70/30. In Japan, it is 96/4. These numbers have been remarkably steady for two decades. Even last year, when there were issues with Sony's supply chain, they came back strong."
Sony outsold Microsoft by 69/31 towards the end of last year.
Okay, that means it is still bad for Microsoft 😄
 

gothmog

Gold Member
What would be amazing is GamePass on Playstation with Sony getting a sweetheart cut of profits in exchange for some of their PC catalog being published via the service on GamePass. A man can dream.
 

HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
17:58 PM "We haven't agreed a deal with Sony, but I hope we will."
Smith says he has an envelope in his pocket with the deal on paper.
"I hope today is a day that will advance our industry and regulation in a responsible way."

17:59 PM
Sony can spend all its energy trying to block this deal, which will reduce competition and slow the evolution of the market. Or they can sit down with us, and hammer out a deal.
 
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ChiefDada

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I think there is a pretty massive difference in saying the deal is "dead" and saying "the deal is dead in its current form". I think to most, a "dead" deal means there is no deal. Microsoft walks away from all this with nothing. Microsoft making concessions to regulators is a long way from the deal being "dead". It is the same deal, just amended.

I understand what you're saying, but based on the structural remedies the CMA is seemingly asking for, I wouldn't describe it as the same deal if that is what Microsoft ends up having to do.
 
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DrFigs

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I can see Jim Ryan accept this deal if they also promise all xbox games will be on playstation. it's a bold strategy though.
 
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