killatopak
Member
Sorry but this attitude just grates me. This defeatist attitude led to mtx, broken releases and subscription based content.
Instead of making a stand, it just encourages corporations to fleece you more. Nah. Physical or death.
Massive FTC Leak: Mid Gen Xbox Hardware, Series S/X Refreshes, New Controller, and Game Plans!
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Instead of making a stand, it just encourages corporations to fleece you more. Nah. Physical or death.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Can you actually lay this Xbox down?
MisterXDTV
Member
The thread title should be changed:
This is not mid-gen hardware, it's just a revision of what it's already available....
Good luck with PS5 dropping in price and PS5 Pro coming up....
This is not mid-gen hardware, it's just a revision of what it's already available....
Good luck with PS5 dropping in price and PS5 Pro coming up....
Jemm
Member
Try taking it for a dinner first.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Has a ps5 pro even been confirmed? I thought it was all just rumors?
MisterXDTV
Member
Even this slide has not been confirmed
Henderson never failed with leaks...
It's coming Nov. 2024
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The Oblivion remake-ster is real !
By the Nine!
By the Nine!
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at this point, they should really pray its just a rumor.
cant imagine the reactions if these are released around same time.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
i wonder who is doing the Oblivion remaster. My cream dream from the abk deal was a Morrowind remake from Vicarious Visions. I'll definitely take Oblivion tho.
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
Ghostwire sequel is honestly huge news for me. Really glad I stuck the first one out until the end. I can't imagine what they can do with another crack at that game. The DLC had some of the best quests in the game too, so they were getting better.
The biggest news of the whole leak though is gyro controls. Xbox has so many shooters, and if they actually patch in high quality gyro on all of those, that's going to be huge for me.
TonberrysKnife
Member
The Series X refresh is digital only? Oh...that's very disappointing.
VAVA Mk2
Member
What is Doom Year Zero? Have they even announced whatever that is yet?
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
Doom Slayer in High School.
soulbait
Member
But they are increasing storage, which is probably where they will justify the price remaining the same.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Storage is cheap these days and getting cheaper all the time. They're giving you less features and charging the same.
In Cold Blood
Banned
In many instances companies will have two internal teams actually competing with each other for a new hardware specification, and the best one out of the two gets adopted.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
All in for that new controller
Love the design. Won't buy cause it's the same performance as my Series X
This will push me to Sony's PS5 Pro.
MS understandably is not focused on delivering better hardware to existing customers cause new console RND is insanely expensive, and hardware sales are always a loss.
I get that, truly. Why waste time trying to sell something to people whose money you already have. But, hopeful enthusiast Xbox fans/subs like me are unmistakably getting the shaft here - there won't be a better Xbox til 2028 or beyond.
They want to cut that part out and go straight to printing money, and it's clear they expect direct-to-cloud cloud to be that money printer.
Risk: Sony PS5 launches a Pro model, and they lose some "core" subscribers to Sony's platform
I guess they are not worried about it. Seemingly, Xbox is content to lose a percentage of this demo to Sony, and try to make it up with new casual signups.
TLDR: Xbox primaries like me are suddenly very interested in PS5 Pro.
This will push me to Sony's PS5 Pro.
MS understandably is not focused on delivering better hardware to existing customers cause new console RND is insanely expensive, and hardware sales are always a loss.
I get that, truly. Why waste time trying to sell something to people whose money you already have. But, hopeful enthusiast Xbox fans/subs like me are unmistakably getting the shaft here - there won't be a better Xbox til 2028 or beyond.
They want to cut that part out and go straight to printing money, and it's clear they expect direct-to-cloud cloud to be that money printer.
Risk: Sony PS5 launches a Pro model, and they lose some "core" subscribers to Sony's platform
I guess they are not worried about it. Seemingly, Xbox is content to lose a percentage of this demo to Sony, and try to make it up with new casual signups.
TLDR: Xbox primaries like me are suddenly very interested in PS5 Pro.
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I just saw one of the slides about EOL for the current Series X before this refresh launches and ....yeah.
Since the Series X is the version thats has the lowest amount of users...EOL wont be too hard or painful.
MS really phasing out disc drives this gen. What a time to be alive.
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Mephisto40
Member
My guess is that it's a prequel to Doom 2016
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
Xbox are floundering, this is what they are competing with? This is a pathetic roadmap.
The refreshed series X being mainly a power consumption improvement AT THE SAME PRICE shows these executives are completely clueless.
The refreshed series X being mainly a power consumption improvement AT THE SAME PRICE shows these executives are completely clueless.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
It's way bigger than that. This will only mean more mindset loss in shops as casuals see less-to-no games in store = less presence while PS side is full and healthy.
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twilo99
Member
It will probably come with some silly plastic stand
twilo99
Member
Even if the series x was 2x more powerful than the PS5 it won't make a difference.
hououinkyouma00
Gold Member
This console is ugly lol. It looks like a black versus of the router that Apple used to sell and many companies still sell. The current Series X is already a pain due to the shape but now it's vertical only.
Updates are nice though and the controller finally brings it up to modern standards. I'm most curious about the thumbsticks being modular.
Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo know the details of digital vs physical and if they only release a digital console then they know the results.
Xbox knows they are losing and won't win. They have no chance to beat Sony and Nintendo and they've been pushing the cloud thing hard so them going all digital wouldn't surprise me.
Updates are nice though and the controller finally brings it up to modern standards. I'm most curious about the thumbsticks being modular.
They don't HAVE to do anything.
Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo know the details of digital vs physical and if they only release a digital console then they know the results.
Xbox knows they are losing and won't win. They have no chance to beat Sony and Nintendo and they've been pushing the cloud thing hard so them going all digital wouldn't surprise me.
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
My concern is price, they remove disc, bump SSD(they are cheap AF now) and price is unchanged.
sainraja
Member
I wish it weren't this way, but... yeah, we're definitely going to see a "reverse" on that, when there was never any need to play it down. I think I read that the controller also has a speaker, so I'm happy to hear that.Haptic feedback is about to get popular among our green rat friends
I guess they went for the Apple Mac Pro design:
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
- There's literally nothing about the mid-gen hardware I'm excited about.
- Not enough information about the controller to gauge its' improvements.
- next-gen hardware sounds promising, particularly the focus on a DLSS equivalent, frame interpolation, and a focus on reducing latency
- Software leaks are kind of predictible, but sure, I'd look forward to Fallout 3 and Oblivion re-releases if they were given proper care
onnextflix5
Member
Why don't ms ever listen to the fans, who asked for this shit, why would you release a ugly 2tb xsx for 499 over a digital xsx 1tb for 399 or less, it just baffles me, whoever is calling the shots over there is losing the plot, they need to cut the price of xsx asap if they are ever going to compete with the ps5. Xss might sell well, but they won't be high spending core gamers,
twilo99
Member
Probably contingent in Sony's pricing, they can't afford to be more expensive..
Tripolygon
Banned
This is a joke right? Their whole personality is based on leaking stuff and having insider knowledge but now when the information is out there, they don't want to cover it because its not fair.
gothmog
Gold Member
Locking people into an all digital ecosystem and out of a market where you can buy used games for $5 at the local game store.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
They're spending huge amounts of money to try and move the market where they want it. They could care less what you or anyone else wants. You'll play games from the cloud and own nothing.
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Riky
$MSFT
I like the handheld idea
Looking at the triangle slide they are talking about third party handhelds. So Steamdeck etc.
NeonDelta
Member
I thought that but someone pointed out all the non xbox products are just outlines.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The Zenimax games list is being buried in this topic and the dedicated topic for it got closed, come on now.
Kupfer
Member
It appears that a few users here are meticulously dissecting this document to create new threads for every minor detail, and I'm not quite grasping the purpose behind it. If you're genuinely interested, you can peruse this thread and, should you come across fresh information, you're welcome to share it here, even if it doesn't garner as many likes and attention.