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[Msamy]

haters

I don't hate it at all definitely getting it day one, but those graphics are just shit

 

[Edder1]

I remember when people were being silly and said Ghost 1 looked like a PS5 game when it was first shown, yet here we are with PS5 exclusive Ghost 2 and it still doesn't look like a PS5 game, lol. Peak timeline.

 

[Xtib81]

Damn, from a technical standpoint, Yotei looks barely better than Tsushima, that's crazy. The artstyle is not enough this time around.

 

[Edder1]

haters

edit: This was a pre recorded trailer. why the fuck dont they show it in 4k right away?

4K truther, lol.

 

[Msamy]

Damn, from a technical standpoint, Yotei looks barely better than Tsushima, that's crazy.

That ghost of toshima E3 2018 gameplay trailer which downgraded later looks better than yotei

 

[Represent.]

What I will say is the animations are lacklustre as hell.

 

[metareferential]

Finally watched the stream: it looks exactly like the first one; that is, it now looks very dated: geometry, foliage, characters, animations. Everything screams last-gen (and a b-tier last-gen).

Scenery and style are cool, but damn. Those rocks and those trees really stand out in a bad way.

 

[vpance]

Art and environments look as good as the first game. Too bad the story seems boring though.

 

[Represent.]

4K link. (why the hell isnt the one they show first, so dumb)

 

[GymWolf]

It's actually impressive how dated sushi2 looks, like, does it even look better than tlou2 on ps4?

 

[Msamy]

It's actually impressive how dated sushi2 looks, like, does tlou2 on ps4 looks better?

Definitely

 

[Senua]

The textures still look so bad, that was my main gripe with the first game but you'd assume they'd fix that with much more powerful hardware. Looks like a late PS4 game.

 

[Audiophile]

At best it (Ghost Of Yotei) largely looks about 10% better than the first game on PS4 Pro, but with a nice mountain in the background. Art style is still nice (though there's something less distinctive about it here), but technically they're just straight-up not trying anymore:

Shadows suck, anisotropic filtering is awful, textures range from great to trash, DoF is bad, no evidence of RT in any form, lighting is horribly flat in most shots with only the well-lined up, well-lit landscape shots looking nice.

Some character models are moderately better (but still very weak overall), assets look the same as the first game (wouldn't be surprised if a lot of stuff is reused with no upgrade). Rocks, trees and main ground detail are terrible.

Near-field detail is hit and miss, far-field is nice but that's expected (likely some swapped-in impostors) and mid-field detail is awful if it's not covered with some form of grass or fog. Additional FX are lacklustre.

Generally nice looking sure, but in the sense of a PS4 game; and likely in GIFs. We're five years into this gen, this is a current-gen exclusive, the first game was very successful, they've had five years to make this and this is a Sony first party title, which used to mean something. I expect much better. Either they weren't afforded the appropriate resources, they horribly squandered them or they just don't care.

If GoT released early in the PS4 lifespan in the same form rather than at the end and this released near the end of the gen looking like this on PS4 Pro, then what I'm seeing here would still be disappointing in terms of intra-generational leaps. There's absolutely nothing technically-impressive about it as a PS5 game.

If I'm buying a new console (that's still going for a premium >60% of the way into the gen, or even worse, springing for the ridiculously-marked up Pro at $699), then it's reasonable to expect a far more significant bump up in the technical presentation.

I really hope this whole period of disappointment is contained in the PS5 gen and next gen Sony's entire first/second party roster start pushing things again. Otherwise I'm gonna lose interest. Gameplay may be king, but in many titles I need a whole bunch of stuff beside it too; and let's be honest, few are really pushing gameplay much either, nor interactivity, simulation and functionally interesting worlds that really push boundaries.

Frankly, I'm surprised this isn't on PS4. Even this far in.

 

[GymWolf]

First dude that tells me that i can't call some devs lazy is gonna get laughed out of this topic.

 

[Xtib81]

Finally watched the stream: it looks exactly like the first one; that is, it now looks very dated: geometry, foliage, characters, animations. Everything screams last-gen (and a b-tier last-gen).

Scenery and style are cool, but damn. Those rocks and those trees really stand out in a bad way.

Definitely looks like a cross gen game that should have released 3 years ago. ^^

 

[Edder1]

Here's the kicker: You will need to buy Playstation 6 to play Sony games that look like PS5 games, lol. See y'all in 2030's, lol.

 

[vpance]

Seems to be dropping frames like mad too with alpha effects on screen. A mystery where all that extra GPU power went to.

 

[metareferential]

Seems to be dropping frames like mad too with alpha effects on screen. A mystery where all that extra GPU power went to.

This way pro user will feel satisfied because that version will be the only one running smoothly (while still looking like ass).

 

[GymWolf]

Slimy is gonna have a field day with this one

 

[GymWolf]

Definitely looks like a cross gen game that should have released 3 years ago. ^^

Nah, look like a ps4 ass game, hfw utterly destroy it, and THAT is a crossgen.

 

[vpance]

Bruh

 

[Senua]

Bruh

Nintendo Switch textures man. You got people in the stream thread saying how excellent the graphics are too. madness

 

[Xtib81]

Besides Forbidden west, I can't think of a single PS game sequel that has lived up to the hype visually. PS studios have fallen off so bad. To think that just 5 years ago, they were at the forefront of visual fidelity.

 

[GymWolf]

Bruh

You know how japanese women have extremely smooth looking skin?

SP took the same approach with rocks.

 

[Edder1]

Besides Forbidden west, I can't think of a single PS game sequel that has lived up to the hype visually. PS studios have fallen off so bad. To think that just 5 years ago, they were at the forefront of visual fidelity.

Rift Apart is a proper current gen game and best looking Sony game this gen. The only Sony game that was built from ground up for this gen.

 

[Xtib81]

Nah, look like a ps4 ass game, hfw utterly destroy it, and THAT is a crossgen.

For sure, but FW is still among the best looking games on PS5, which says a lot about this wasted gen.

 

[GymWolf]

Nintendo Switch textures man. You got people in the stream thread saying how excellent the graphics are too. madness

The sdf is already trying to spin and gaslight people into thinking this look spectacular, just another day in the office.

 

[Audiophile]

Can't help but think the folks praising it came straight to PS5 from a PS3 and skipped PS4 cause this is upper mid visuals for a PS4 Pro.

 

[Edder1]

Y'all bitch and moan and then will buy Ghost 2 at full price and let Sony continue their bullsh*t. Don't complain if you're part of the problem.

 

[GymWolf]

For sure, but FW is still among the best looking games on PS5, which says a lot about this wasted gen.

Yeah it was just to point out what you can actually achieve when you are not lazy with crossgens.

 

[metareferential]

Bruh

"AnGuLaR gRaphICs" are back, mofos.

 

[rofif]

You know how japanese women have extremely smooth looking skin?

SP took the same approach with rocks.

bro never seen a wet rock

 

[Senua]

Y'all bitch and moan and then will buy Ghost 2 at full price and let Sony continue their bullsh*t. Don't complain if you're part of the problem.

 

[GymWolf]

Y'all bitch and moan and then will buy Ghost 2 at full price and let Sony continue their bullsh*t. Don't complain if you're part of the problem.

The game looks extremely safe and iterative, this may be the first sony game i skip at launch in a long time...

Like i didn't even had the strenght of watching the entire 20 min, i skipped here and there, this is how "boring" and safe it looks.

And they still use these fucking precanned death animations with no ragdoll in 2025, fuck off.

 

[GymWolf]

bro never seen a wet rock

From the dude who usually think that appreciating extremely detailed textures in a graphic fidelity topic is retarded, i'll take that as a compliment

What is you excuse for the other poor rocks in the remaining 99% of the trailer?

 

[Senua]

bro never seen a wet rock

Lemme guess, dry rocks are "over detailed" like hellblade 2?

 

[metareferential]

It just hit me: the best looking games on PS5 are going to be MS games. xD

 

[GymWolf]

It just hit me: the best looking games on PS5 are going to be MS games. xD

Hopefully fable is gonna impress.

 

[rofif]

Lemme guess, dry rocks are "over detailed" like hellblade 2?

you are used to overdetailed graphics probably.
Just because you can make texture sharper, does not always mean you should.
I finished got and acs this year. one got way sharper textures than the other.
But got looks incredibly impressive at times despite being way lower fidelity.

 

[Audiophile]

Y'all bitch and moan and then will buy Ghost 2 at full price and let Sony continue their bullsh*t. Don't complain if you're part of the problem.

At this point I've decided I wont support this directly with my dollar as they've ultimately failed to provide something worthy of the console upgrade. If I really get the itch to play it I'll buy it on eBay and then sell it again on there once done.

But frankly, I'm losing interest in most of these games and probably won't bother at this point.

The sdf is already trying to spin and gaslight people into thinking this look spectacular, just another day in the office.

You'll get "it's fine", "the art style is the important thing", "why are you being picky bro, just enjoy the game", "graphics aren't the most important thing" (after saying the graphics look great). All completely ignoring the fact that the first game already had that art style on a console with 12-18% of the effective power and for some reason we bought a new console for this to look basically the same.

I mean, there's gotta be a relative improvement no matter how good it already looked otherwise the new gen is basically pointless.

Maybe 60fps is a nice win for some, but if I choose to play the 30/40fps mode then I expect the relative bump over the 30fps mode on the predecessor, and small resolution bumps are just completely unexciting.

 

[Senua]

you are used to overdetailed graphics probably.
Just because you can make texture sharper, does not always mean you should

So rocks in real life should not be used as a reference point for rocks in games because they are over detailed? What kind of brain thinking is going on with your brain rofif

 

[GymWolf]

Maybe 60fps is a nice win for some, but if I choose to play the 30/40fps mode then I expect the relative bump over the 30fps mode on the predecessor, and small resolution bumps are just completely unexciting.

Then you realize that hfw:

has a 60 fps mode
looks better
it's a 3 years old crossgen


They really can't win this one.

 

[Edder1]

you are used to overdetailed graphics probably.
Just because you can make texture sharper, does not always mean you should.
I finished got and acs this year. one got way sharper textures than the other.
But got looks incredibly impressive at times despite being way lower fidelity.

This guy... Lol. Sony are probably not even paying you, so it's sad that you do this shilling for free.

 

[rofif]

So rocks in real life should not be used as a reference point for rocks in games because they are over detailed? What kind of brain thinking is going on with your brain rofif

what?
They can if you are going for that.
But I would wager... these rocks look sleek enough.
You clearly have not been outside for some time

I am a photographer. Have this rock

This guy... Lol. Sony are probably not even paying you, so it's sad that you do this shilling for free.

Must be so sad to be this miserable and complaining on the internet about a smooth rock lol. get real

 

[Buggy Loop]

Bruh

Is this coming to Switch 2?

 

[Edder1]

Must be so sad to be this miserable and complaining on the internet about a smooth rock lol. get real

I don't get why you are in a graphics thread always complaining about people dissing Sony exclusive games, unless you're here to shill and gaslight. Like dude, this is a thread about next gen visuals, yet you complain about people wanting next gen visuals.

 

[Senua]

what?
They can if you are going for that.
But I would wager... these rocks look sleek enough.
You clearly have not been outside for some time

I am a photographer. Have this rock

Must be so sad to be this miserable and complaining on the internet about a smooth rock lol. get real

Bro those are paved and smoothed rock so to be comfortable for the little pigeons claws to pitter patter.

The mental gymnastics you will go through to defend Sony is some next level shit which I've always admired

 

[rofif]

Bro those are paved and smoothed rock so to be comfortable for the little pigeons claws to pitter patter.

The mental gymnastics you will go through to defend Sony is some next level shit which I've always admired

You can't even take a joke.

I don't get why you are in a graphics thread always complaining about people dissing Sony exclusive games, unless you're here to shill and gaslight. Like dude, this is a thread about next gen visuals, yet you complain about people wanting next gen visuals.

Because I probably enjoy games graphics more than most of you. I take hundreds of screenshots in every game. Always did that.
The point is to enjoy graphics. Not … not enjoy them.

Everyone and their grandmother knows that even the best looking games can have a smoothe rock. Not something anyone should focus on. Crisis had ton of these …

 

[Edder1]

what?
They can if you are going for that.
But I would wager... these rocks look sleek enough.
You clearly have not been outside for some time

I am a photographer. Have this rock

Why are taking photographs with Nokia 3310 and how is that relevant to 4K PS5 games?

 

[analog_future]

First dude that tells me that i can't call some devs lazy is gonna get laughed out of this topic.

It's largely not about laziness though and it's stupid to keep suggesting that that's what the issue is. It's how the studio uses their budget, level of talent on the team, strength of leadership, cohesive team vision/culture, etc.. etc.. etc..

If anything it's lazy to suggest that all these issues are just due to individual employees being lazy.