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I still remember owning a ZX Spectrum and seeing and hearing an Amiga running the Newtek Demo Reel in the local computer shop. What a leap. Fortunately I started my first job soon after and that's the first thing I saved up for
Xenon 2 was an Atari ST port, so it didn't leverage any of the Amiga's features other than the sampled intro song (which was then replaced by a massively downgraded version for the actual game).Everyone agreed that those were real problems, for example Xenon 2 was a great game but the overall framerate was unacceptable and it was a game born already in the good days of the lifecycle of Amiga. If you look very well to games like Shadow of the Beast you don't see nothing special except a good framerate and a lot of colors on screen but there's few sprites on screen and one or two big BOBs. I never loved it at all
Yes, I remember that dicotomy - Computer are serious and console are for games or something like that
That's one of the reasons in my opinion that Sega rocked that market: they had great arcade games and there were arcades in all the world
Everybody wanted real Sega ported Arcade Games instead of bad US Gold conversions XD
Anyway fanboysm was not a thing at that time, I remember bringing my SNes at home of a friend of mine wich had Megadrive; we played both consoles all the weekend and I went at home.
A couple of week later I bought a Megadrive inspired by that weekend and I went to my frien's house to show it to him.
He was playing with his brand new Snes
Cool!I was in the demo scene in that days, mostly C64
We all bought Amiga so quickly that we were stealing it each other in the Stores
Everyone agreed that those were real problems, for example Xenon 2 was a great game but the overall framerate was unacceptable and it was a game born already in the good days of the lifecycle of Amiga. If you look very well to games like Shadow of the Beast you don't see nothing special except a good framerate and a lot of colors on screen but there's few sprites on screen and one or two big BOBs. I never loved it at all
The real Amiga's problem was the choiche of rigid hardware un-upgradable in a world were the hardware boom was ramping quiclky
Xenon 2 was an Atari ST port, so it didn't leverage any of the Amiga's features other than the sampled intro song (which was then replaced by a massively downgraded version for the actual game).
There were countless games like that. Jerky vertical scrolling, no horizontal scrolling, no hardware sprites, 16 colours. Even games that are well regarded, like the Bitmap Bros games and some Psygnosis stuff. I could spot them a mile off.
Having the ST around really crippled a lot of the Amiga's library, since developers targeted their game at the weaker hardware.
I was in the demo scene in that days, mostly C64
We all bought Amiga so quickly that we were stealing it each other in the Stores
Everyone agreed that those were real problems, for example Xenon 2 was a great game but the overall framerate was unacceptable and it was a game born already in the good days of the lifecycle of Amiga. If you look very well to games like Shadow of the Beast you don't see nothing special except a good framerate and a lot of colors on screen but there's few sprites on screen and one or two big BOBs. I never loved it at all
The real Amiga's problem was the choiche of rigid hardware un-upgradable in a world were the hardware boom was ramping quiclky
Me and my friends were hanging around in the scene in Europe (Netherlands). We didn't really do much of importance to be honest, mostly went to parties. I created a bunch of Soundtracker songs in those days. The only thing I could find on the net was this cracktro which has my music. There's a System Z music disk out there that has 6 tracks but I can't find it anywhere.
If you was truly upper class you'd be down the local bootsale rooting out the fat bloke with his dodgy yellow floppies and chucking him 50p..lmao
It was only used to backup your purchased games of course!
lolIf you was truly upper class you'd be down the local bootsale rooting out the fat bloke with his dodgy yellow floppies and chucking him 50p..
I distinctly remember acquiring a certain French copy of Flashback and then a few mates and me bugging a French teacher what any of this crazy language meant over the proceeding week
Who says gaming has never been educational..
Ended up not being a ponce and bought it when it finally came out over here, then having all those mates practically live with me for two weeks![]()
Holy crap, Kayes!Don't know if anyone else did this. But I had paper round and Saturday job and persuaded my mum to buy me the Amiga from Kayes Catalogue (think that's what it was called, there were a few of them at the time). You could buy things and pay weekly for a year.
Reminiscing, I also have fond nerdy memories of Might and Magic III and Champions of Krynn.
lol
It's been 40 years, can we finally talk about this or is the whole thing still hush-hush around here?
Same here. Although weirdly the whole piracy issue was never really a factor for me with the C64, you could literally buy tapes from the local corner shop down here, and by god did I buy some crapI grew up during the C64 era, back then few even understood that copying a cassette tape wasn't actually allowed, kids swapped cassette tapes on the school yard.
Here's a couple I remember as being technically superior at the time. Not the greatest games, but smooth scrolling and overscan mode, so the picture went all the way to the edge of the TV with no nasty borders.Absolutely true. Games tailor made for the Amiga looked and sounded so much better than Atari ST ports but because of the popularity of the ST in the UK, that's what we got for the most part with unfortunately few exceptions.
Yeah I mean could talk about this all day long but at least in the past it was frowned upon. But maybe a certain age of the games makes it less problematic? 40 years is a long time…
I hope not, this stuffs been on abandonware for years!
But I do actually own most boxed Amiga games these days. The state of them may vary though..
Same here. Although weirdly the whole piracy issue was never really a factor for me with the C64, you could literally buy tapes from the local corner shop down here, and by god did I buy some crap
It's crazy to think back to how many people stocked this stuff, literally any market or shops had rows upon rows of tapes
Although the storage has been a pain in the last few years and god knows if half of them still run.
Man after my own heart! All of it!Yeah I mean could talk about this all day long but at least in the past it was frowned upon. But maybe a certain age of the games makes it less problematic? 40 years is a long time…
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But I too bought a ton of games during the Commodore era, must have hundreds of cassettes and diskettes and a whole bunch of multi game collections too.
At this point it's a real concern how to actually make things survive... I can get load error on some games. Will the collection survive 10 more years?
On the Amiga I've ripped floppies with a Kryoflux ripper where you can get them into adf files for emulators. All my Soundtracker modules and Deluxe Paint art and the AMOS game is throughly backupped! Plus some games I just don't want to lose.
On the C64, nothing yet…
Anyhow I just think it's cool that there are people who're still interested in this era of games.
I have some of my all-time favorites on the Amiga. Turrican 1 and 2 for me are among the absolute best, not quite the level of Super Metroid but they're fantastic, and amazing music. The Digital Illusions (DICE) Pinball Dreams and Pinball Illusions are up there as well, so cool. Dungeon Master is an absolute classic too. I really liked the Bitmap Brothers games too, Gods, Cadaver. Sierra's adventures, I especially like Space Quest 3. And System 3's Ninja Remix! I'm a rabid fanboy of everything The Last Ninja, I can see where they fail but I still love them, at least C64 TLN1, LN2 and Amiga NR. Last Ninja 2 on the Amiga ported by Activision was a joke, hilarious animations. Music was still great though. (There is a Last Ninja collection coming out soon btw! Kickstarter, they're supposedly doing final touches now). Big fan of Rick Dangerous as well, one of the more brutal trial and error games from that era that I've finished.
But there are so many. I'll stop now.
Heh great ideaMan after my own heart! All of it!
I've played all of those! And aye, that Amiga version of last Ninja was complete trash, as was Creatures! There were quite a few C64 version I preferred over their Amiga counterpart
You've just given my brain a kick too about deluxe paint! I used to give my mate games I'd adjusted the boot block on to show page 3 models when the game first booted, just to trip him out, it took ages just for a crap joke..
I'll check out that kick starter though![]()
In my country the retail shop i bought my Amiga games used that software to sell the games. They just had a folder with a huge list of games, ppl picked whatever games by name then had to wait for them to copy them and sell them pretty cheap. They also sold the software itself as well. Some years later the store was forced to close down for piracy.Everyone's favorite piece of Amiga software.
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Not my first but my first serious games machine. My first was a C64.Happy Birthday to the Amiga, my first computer and games machine
Not only smoother, but the sound of the Amiga won me out over the PC. I just couldn't handle that utterly trash sound of the PC.To touch on a bit of detail, I believe the Amiga had some special hardware that at the time made the mouse cursor move extremely smoothly over the screen compared to PC. Made everything using a mouse so much more pleasant.
You picked the one game I've never played!! What are the chancesDid you play Rock'n Roll by the way? It had you going bananas with the mouse to control a ball in a labyrinth. Great and unique game!
I was never into the consoles or computers in the C64 days, it was Football, Music going out on the drink etc, i had a few mates who had a Commodore 64's and Atari/Sega machines, they were ok but i never got hooked until one friend showed me his Atari ST and Dungeon Master game so when i decided to join in, the advice was to go Amiga, so we all join in different ways and paths in the end.Not my first but my first serious games machine. My first was a C64.
Can you remember the first Amiga game you tried?I was never into the consoles or computers in the C64 days, it was Football, Music going out on the drink etc, i had a few mates who had a Commodore 64's and Atari/Sega machines, they were ok but i never got hooked until one friend showed me his Atari ST and Dungeon Master game so when i decided to join in, the advice was to go Amiga, so we all join in different ways and paths in the end.
Mate showed me Budbrain Megademo and Puggs in Space.Can you remember the first Amiga game you tried?
Yeah there is still hope for the younger generation, my kids play all kinds of old games. The biggest issue for them with the Commodore computers is the joystick, they grew up with console controllers.So many great memories.
I got my kid to play some Amiga games recently (13 year old) and as he played, "Man, the graphics are not great but this is so much effin fun!"
Yup. He gets it![]()
Oh it's a real gem! Music by Chris Huelbeck, you know Turrican. Go play itYou picked the one game I've never played!! What are the chances![]()
Oh it's a real gem! Music by Chris Huelbeck, you know Turrican. Go play it
In case you don't have an Amiga. No idea how it's on other devices or if there is some default emulation black magic going on, but it plays extremely well on emulator on Xbox. For some unknown reason this 80s game works perfectly with the Xbox controller's analog stick, you get proper 360 degrees analog controls, and it feels superb.
But to get the proper difficulty and stress it should be played with a mouse. You'll understand when you try it!
I'm not sure I could use a joystick nowYeah there is still hope for the younger generation, my kids play all kinds of old games. The biggest issue for them with the Commodore computers is the joystick, they grew up with console controllers.
I'm the opposite, today I can handle a controller well but when I got the SNES in the middle of the 90s I had to put in serious time to learn how to handle that tiny dpad. Felt almost impossible to do everything I did with the whole wrist with just the thumb!
Oh wow that sounds amazing!Love Chris Huelbeck!
I'll stick it on me Deck, infact, it might already be on it, I'll have to check
If you ever have the chance, it's well worth checking out the Amiga emulation on the Steam Deck, I can honestly say it's been second to none. The only game I had a nightmare running was Hired Guns, after that, perfect!
I've always wanted a portable Amiga. I also bought a couple of Amiga Mini's but I've still yet to actually get stuck in and mess around with them.
Honestly, it wasn't that hard to set up either.Oh wow that sounds amazing!
Also, Amiga got a really nice port of Super Street Fighter II, after us gold' disaster port of champion edition:
It's like riding a bike, it'll feel like you've done nothing else in like 5 seconds.I'm not sure I could use a joystick now
It was Dungeon Master. but afterwards i bought Kick Off, Sensible Soccer, Silent Service, Curse of the Azure Bonds A D&D game and i used to get the Microprose flight sim games and play them quite a bit as well, i had a load of em and can't remember them all lol.Can you remember the first Amiga game you tried?
I remember popping round this rich girls house I used to be mates with. An utterly shiny Amiga 500 sat in her room, and she loaded up Robocop, it was all over..
I went home and whinged like a maniac
I was about 9 or 10, I'd only ever seen such goodness in an Arcade..![]()
It was Dungeon Master. but afterwards i bought Kick Off, Sensible Soccer, Silent Service, Curse of the Azure Bonds A D&D game and i used to get the Microprose flight sim games and play them quite a bit as well, i had a load of em and can't remember them all lol.
Me and my friends were hanging around in the scene in Europe (Netherlands). We didn't really do much of importance to be honest, mostly went to parties. I created a bunch of Soundtracker songs in those days. The only thing I could find on the net was this cracktro which has my music. There's a System Z music disk out there that has 6 tracks but I can't find it anywhere.
Forget your PS1 start up screen. This is the GOAT.