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I added a few more and linked a very racist one at the end. Thats new low for that fanbase, straight up racism.

Man, I just hope that's a confused bot that's misunderstood the idea of trying to take advantage of the controversy of 'ugly women' because wtf:



Normal people don't hire a chief financial officer based on looks and yet she looks normal anyway.

 

[PlayStaytion]

150m+ with no doubt, It's the halo box, which is a historical moment, not some random thread from Wednesday.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

And yet people have wet dreams about PS6 being just around the corner…

I think people are misunderstanding what she is saying

How I am taking it is "Look how long people are still using the PS4, we want that and maybe even longer for the PS5 even after the PS6 launches"

 

[Fbh]

We don't know if the console will launch in 2027. With Sony reinforcing that the PS5 will remain an active product for at least five more years, I can see them releasing the PS6 in 2028 or later.

PS5 is still holding momentum, and I honestly can't see a good reason for a new console right now.

Sure, it could release in 2028 too, or even later.
All I'm saying is that Sony could release a Ps6 tomorrow and that wouldn't prevent the Ps5 from still being supported for another 10 years.

I think in the future we'll see more consoles being supported in parallel, just like phones or PC hardware. If Sony can drop the price they can position the Ps5 as the cheaper entry level device to the PS ecosystem.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I think people are misunderstanding what she is saying

How I am taking it is "Look how long people are still using the PS4, we want that and maybe even longer for the PS5 even after the PS6 launches"

Yep. They have said this very thing, and have supported this very concept, since they've gotten into console gaming. We go through this every gen, and people act shocked or troll like it's not Sony's MO.

 

[tmlDan]

We don't know if the console will launch in 2027. With Sony reinforcing that the PS5 will remain an active product for at least five more years, I can see them releasing the PS6 in 2028 or later.

PS5 is still holding momentum, and I honestly can't see a good reason for a new console right now.

Cross gen will be more and more prevalent as we move forward, they wont delay a console because of what you're referring to - just expect every game to be cross gen for the first two years of the new console cycle at LEAST, with smaller exclusives to drive intent.

 

[PropellerEar]

I added a few more and linked a very racist one at the end. Thats new low for that fanbase, straight up racism.

Some of the current gen launch time Green FUD Discord posts were pretty racist too...according to what was leaked

 

[ByWatterson]

About 120 million, mostly boosted by GTAVI

The PS5 will get knifed at the end of the gen with the quasi-inexpensive PS6 as well as the handheld being options.

Tons of PS4 hangers-on will skip PS5 and jump to PS6, giving it a huge burst out of the gate and cutting of PS5's tail.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Interesting rumors lately.

1. Gen might last longer than expected.
2. PS6 may not be BC with PS5 Pro patches(thus making PS5 Pro the only way to play those upgrades)

How was buying the PS5 Pro on launch a mistake again?

 

[Mobilemofo]

263 million. I'm almost certain that's the EXACT number.

 

[mckmas8808]

Sure, it could release in 2028 too, or even later.
All I'm saying is that Sony could release a Ps6 tomorrow and that wouldn't prevent the Ps5 from still being supported for another 10 years.

I think in the future we'll see more consoles being supported in parallel, just like phones or PC hardware. If Sony can drop the price they can position the Ps5 as the cheaper entry level device to the PS ecosystem.

This mean the PS5 will 100% sell for less than $400 during the PS6 era. Even if it's just the PS5 DE that's selling for $350 MSRP in 2028.

 

[TheGodfather07]

Support for another 5 years means 130m is a lock.

 

[Pejo]

I for one am shocked that the CFO of Sony didn't come out and say "You know those PS5s? better stop buying them now because we'll have a PS6 coming out in a bit."

 

[EverydayBeast]

Remember when Sony wanted 10 years for their consoles?

• Kaz Hirai (then Sony's executive deputy president):
  

  "We look at our products having a 10 year life cycle, which we've proven with the PlayStation. Therefore, the PlayStation 3 is going to be a console that's going to be with you again for 10 years."
  "I've always said a 10-year life cycle of the Ps3 and there is no reason to go away from that."

 

[yogaflame]

Nice that they are still very focus on ps5 which still has so many potentials especially ps5 pro. Ps5 still has 3 to 4 good years left to it before we introduce ps6. Just need a big price cut and more exclusives.

 

[Clear]

Unsurprising. Always said that PS5 will be supported through 2030 at the earliest.

Also, its fairly obvious that basic economics mean that PS6 will start at a higher RRP than PS5 as they will be functionally too close to coexist on the market at the same price-point.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Remember when Sony wanted 10 years for their consoles?

• Kaz Hirai (then Sony's executive deputy president):

Wasn't wrong. It was just about 10 years when it was discontinued in the US.

I could see the PS5 easily beating that.

 

[Three]

This mean the PS5 will 100% sell for less than $400 during the PS6 era. Even if it's just the PS5 DE that's selling for $350 MSRP in 2028.

This was my thinking too which makes me believe that they will do a revision to reduce cost but her statement doesn't actually state explicitly they want to expand sales during the PS6 era. She may just be talking about growth in the 2 years and then continued support after that, like the PS4. PS4 production all but stopped when the PS5 launched but support was still there.

 

[MisterXDTV]

Considering they want to launch a native handheld that runs PS5 games, PS5 will be on shelves for a lifetime.

They just need to find a way to lower the price big time and it will print money until 2030+

 

[NeverYouMind]

Looks like it is selling on par with PS3 without the later momentum of first party studios.

 

[mckmas8808]

Unsurprising. Always said that PS5 will be supported through 2030 at the earliest.

Also, its fairly obvious that basic economics mean that PS6 will start at a higher RRP than PS5 as they will be functionally too close to coexist on the market at the same price-point.

100%. The best thing to do is to sell the PS5 DE in 2027 for around $350 and the PS6 DE for $600 or so. And KILL THE PS5 PRO AND PS PORTAL! No need to sell those with the PS5 Base, PS5\6 handheld and PS6 on store shelves.

This was my thinking too which makes me believe that they will do a revision to reduce cost but her statement doesn't actually state explicitly they want to expand sales during the PS6 era. She may just be talking about growth in the 2 years and then continued support after that, like the PS4. PS4 production all but stopped when the PS5 launched but support was still there.

The bolded was mainly due to Covid starting and the chips shortage. So they gave all their attention to the PS5. That shouldn't be the case this time around.

Looks like it is selling on par with PS3 without the later momentum of first party studios.

Huh? It's passing the PS3 for lifetime sales this month

 

[MarV0]

They could at least one node reduction, to save on die space and power.

Not possible during the current AI boom. PS6 is also not possible for the foreseeable future unless its utter garbage or costs minimum $1000.

 

[semiconscious]

Given how much better balanced the PS5 is compared to the PS4 (decent CPU, fast storage), we can expect cross gen to last past 2030.

this will definitely change how things've been done up till now. one has to wonder just how many early ps6 exclusives sony'll be able to afford to produce, when simply making them cross-gen'd be so much more profitable?...

 

[winjer]

Not possible during the current AI boom. PS6 is also not possible for the foreseeable future unless its utter garbage or costs minimum $1000.

Not to the leading node, such as N3, since that is taken mostly by AI chips.
But N5 could be a possibility, since it doesn't have as much pressure.
Or maybe even N3, a few months from now, as N2 will start mass production by years end.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Remember when Sony wanted 10 years for their consoles?

• Kaz Hirai (then Sony's executive deputy president):

They still get 10 years out of each tradition home console.

 

[tusharngf]

Seems like 2028 release window

 

[cash_longfellow]

And yet people have wet dreams about PS6 being just around the corner…

$100 says it's out by holiday 2027.

 

[leo-j]

Switch 2 has prolonged the life of the current gen consoles. I expect them to do super good especially with GTa VI happening in late 2026.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

They still get 10 years out of each tradition home console.

PS1 was discontinued in 2006, few months before PS3 launch. PS2 plug was pulled the same year PS4 went into production (2013).

I mean, Tao's words are perfectly in-line with typical Sony MO, she's just reiterating those things to shareholders.

 

[Saint Boot Gaming]

Good. I'm a long way from being able to afford a PS6 anyway. (500-700 dollars, not counting bundles and other things?)
Normally takes me 2 years to be able to get a new console and even then, I still have to have help from a credit card. The only exceptions to this for me was the Wii and Wii U.

 

[DeepEnigma]

PS1 was discontinued in 2006, few months before PS3 launch. PS2 plug was pulled the same year PS4 went into production (2013).

I mean, Tao's words are perfectly in-line with typical Sony MO, she's just reiterating those things to shareholders.

Yep, and in 2022 financials they announced they will phase out PS4 production in 2025.

 

[Stafford]

Could she possibly mean that support for PS5 will continue when PS6 launches for a while? Basically exactly what happened with the current generation of consoles?

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Could she possibly mean that support for PS5 will continue when PS6 launches for a while? Basically exactly what happened with the current generation of consoles?

Exactly this, she's just acknowledging the whole PS4 to PS5 transition shtick and reassures sharerholders that PS5 users will be actively supported during PS6 crossgen period. That's all.

 

[yurinka]

I think over 150M, particularly because due to several reasons I think it will sell more than PS2 and PS4 paricularly on its second half:

• It's on track to become launch aligned a faster selling console than PS4 and PS2
• There's a huge amount of players in the previous gen console that would migrate later
• Several top seller teams or IPs like GTA, ND, Bungie, CoD still have to release their first (non-crossgen) game for this generation
• Due to different initiatives (3P deals with local titles, PC ports, China / India Hero Project, movies/tv shows...) Sony is considerably growing in their userbase on Asia
• It's getting a substantital amount of new users from PC, and they'll become bigger in PC once they release GaaS titles like Marathon or Marvel Tokon, and specially once they open their own PC store
• Xbox consoles are dying so they'll have less direct competition going forward in high end consoles plus a portion of the Xbox players will migrate to PS
• It's getting new players / game sales thanks to their off-gaming adaptations of their IPs, they are working on like over a dozen adaptations more
• Reasons of PS4 having a longer than usual lifetime seem that will happen again in PS5 or even at a bigger magniture:
  • AAA getting more expensive make devs need to release the games in more platforms and bet more for crossgen, so PS5 may get as cross-gen all PS6 games (particularly if there's a 'PS5' handheld)
  • AAA take longer to be made every generation, so consoles get more crossgen or late games
  • More people are engaged in the long term to GaaS titles than before
  • More people are engaged in the long term with gamesubs than before
• If there's really a portable capable of running PS5 games that would help to keep the home console alive for a longer period of time

Could she possibly mean that support for PS5 will continue when PS6 launches for a while? Basically exactly what happened with the current generation of consoles?

Yes, this is clearly what she meant. PS6 will be released as/when was already planned, but as always happened with the previous PS consoles, PS5 will continue in the market several years after the release of its successor.

In case of PS4, it's having a healthier second life than usual, helping it to last longer, and they think same will happen with PS5

 

[Bernkastel]

Interesting rumors lately.

1. Gen might last longer than expected.
2. PS6 may not be BC with PS5 Pro patches(thus making PS5 Pro the only way to play those upgrades)

How was buying the PS5 Pro on launch a mistake again?

The PS5 gen will last 7 years like PS3 and PS4 gen. They will support PS5 with their first party titles until 2030 does not mean PS6 will launch in 2030. PS4 was also supported for a while.

 

[Trilobit]

I wonder if the next Playstation handheld will be on par with PS5. In that case it will probably be easy to develop for them both and keep PS5 in the game for a long time. I know I won't be getting a PS6 so hopefully it lasts a long time into next gen.

 

[kaizenkko]

Cross gen will be more and more prevalent as we move forward, they wont delay a console because of what you're referring to - just expect every game to be cross gen for the first two years of the new console cycle at LEAST, with smaller exclusives to drive intent.

My point is: the market right now wants a new console? A lot of people are playing on PS4 and the system is just fine for them. Of course, some people would buy a new console, but I think that they are not the majority. Consoles are getting price increases years after release, devs times are bigger than ever, most users play games that runs on a 12 years old device. Times have change and we don't need a new console every 7/8 year.

 

[MarV0]

Not to the leading node, such as N3, since that is taken mostly by AI chips.
But N5 could be a possibility, since it doesn't have as much pressure.
Or maybe even N3, a few months from now, as N2 will start mass production by years end.

It's not just about finding node capacity. AMD is fully invested into the AI boom now and there is no chance they will cut a deal with Sony for some cheap chips with poor margins.

Tens of millions of low margin PS6 chips could affect the profit margins AMD reports to its shareholders which is a big fat NO at the current climate. For PS6 it's either some utter garbage tier chips that will have minimal effect or some decent chips with a price premium that Sony could never even imagine of paying in the past.

Either way, the good old days are over at least for a while.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

PlayStation is always 10 years. It is the law.

 

[PatientGamer]

By November 2026, PS5 is likely to be north of 100m units, bare minimum. GTA 6 will then release & will catapult PS5's sales to 120m-130m no problem. Plus all the other stuff they've got in the pipeline with 1st party. I wonder what their sales would've been like if they weren't supply constrained.

 

[Ebrietas]

Well over 150m by the time it's discontinued. I don't think people have grasped how powerful these consoles are. PS5 will be able to run 99% of games for another decade without any issue. If Sony can continue miniaturizing the device and lowering the cost, this thing can remain the default console for a long time.

 

[KungFucius]

88 million tops.








I would like to see a long run though. There is zero reason to rush out a new console in the next 2 years.

I agree which is why I am confused that everyone seems to think they will. I mean Xbox will and it will fail. Have they released any PS5Pro numbers? That might give an idea of how eager people are to jump to the next system.