Valve enters the console wars [The Verge]

I think what this conversation shows us is the human need to fit everything into a categorical box can lead to issues (and it's often pointless). Not to get too philosophical, but some of our larger and broader issues in society can be boiled down to a similar issue; such as asserting someone is either left or right. Us being so quick to slap on a label often makes us blind to nuance.

Edit: I'm not referring to the OP, but the debate around whether the GabeCube is a console or not.
 
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Im hyped. hope this is the box that make us less focused on pixel and go back to the fun.
I have a huge backlog too. It would be nice to have a lil power box to play PC games. Some coop Path of Exile 2, would be real fun with my son.
This could also create a base line for companies when they release their PC games. MH wilds is a disaster on PC, it plays great on the regular PS5.
 
Let me know whenever we've settled the war on whether it's a PC or a console.

Whatever it is, it looks like the perfect machine to finally be able to emulate everything up until the X360 generation. That thing could be the single most efficient box to finally store all retro games ever released on a single hardware. That's probably the most exciting aspect of it for me.
 
Everyone's quotes got destroyed by the multiquote but here we go.

're playing on a Steam Machine and a friend asks what i

Personally, I tell them it's a cute little pc. I would not be shocked if that person said "I know, *but*..."

al computing, yes. It is about as generic a term possible because a PC literally can be used for whatever you want. It doesn't have a primary use like a console or a phone. It is a crucial difference when I can choose whatever operating system I want on a computer versus a console where there is no

Right, it's easier to differentiate a pc from a console. But a phone, not as easy. I'm not even sure a phone truly has a primary purpose. It's got a phone app that could also be used on a tablet or whatever, sure. I could say it's a personal computing device and you can do just about anything with it. Including loading kali or some other distro on it.

I understand we intuitively know the difference between a phone and a pc. I'm saying that it's not that simple to formally define it.

is just recently people have started trying to over complicate where they fit. People can categorize Steam devices differently than what the people that created them categorize them as, but that seems silly to me. Personally, I play on all of these devices (including phones) so I guess this really isn't my ba

I think you are basically asking the right question: why isn't everyone accepting that this is a pc when it seems clear as day? It's a pretty interesting question, because it is kinda happening. What is skewing the perception? I'm interested in talking about that but if you frame the whole thing as "what's wrong with these people", then there's nowhere to go with it and the question isn't interesting anymore.
 
Will probably sell like crap. Way back when Steam tried it a decade ago, all those machines combined sold less than 500k in under a year. And then it all got disbanded shortly after.

Those never even really came out and you must see the huge differences between those and this.
 
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