Circana: In the US, PS5 accounted for 47% of total Black Friday week hardware unit sales, Switch 2 for 24%, and NEX Playground for 14%

Now we know why Nintendo panic dropped that surprise Cyber Monday sale, not looking good for the over priced under powered turd slab. Few month old sequel to the highest selling console of all time should be unquestionably mopping the floor with everybody on its first black friday, they fucked something up catastrophically to be outsold 2:1 by a 6 year old machine.
 
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Yeah, on the Switch side they impact is between high price for the main audience, aka kids, and lack of mainline Mario and Zelda.

On a personal level (and other partners i know with kids who have Switch 1), nobody is even planning to get Switch 2. It's kind of high considering available titles and reception for Mario Kart World is pretty mid.

I am not spending $450 for each kid (they both have S1) and the games just aren't there. Plus the screen is meh and battery life is double meh.
 
PS5 just did monster numbers. Switch 2 is still on track. Both did great this year. Nintendo will release holiday numbers and they will sufficiently impress.
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Brutal how Sony just wiped out the competition, and we don't even have the GTA6 boost yet. I'll pretend I'm surprised about what happened with the Switch 2.
 
Switch 2 is the furthest thing from a supply-limited console. Almost every shelf I've seen or heard described is full of units.
I could get one from Smyth's toys on the day of release in the UK. It has never not been in stock at the big retailers, who have been forced to drop the retarded camera bundles as nobody outside of people afflicted with Nintendo Stockholm Syndrome want that shitty spycam. This is in stark contrast to the Switch 1. I was forced to import (Japanese Switch) that as an overpriced forced bundle including 1-2 Switch.
 
remember, ps5 achieved these number of sales without exclusive games lol
Pretty much, at least recently, and the exclusives it does have are not exactly lighting up the charts anywhere, even in a period where PS5s are flying off the shelves due to heavy discounting.

What we're seeing is, the exclusives really only mattered much while it was in a fight with a comparable competitor, to distinguish itself from that competitor. Since Xbox has self-destructed, the exclusives don't matter so much. Being the now obvious default console choice left standing for third party gaming is more than enough. Then it's just a matter of being affordable.

Nintendo is in the opposite position, where it cannot compete as an option for third party gaming and so is going to be almost totally reliant on its exclusives. This is not exactly a new position for Nintendo though. The tougher challenge for Nintendo might be getting the price down.
 
Switch 2 is running out of steam.. as predicted of course.. Nintendo heavily betting on old strategies like selling outdated hardware as premium and relying on the same type of games for years would stall eventually… casuals are a very unpredictable market.. watch how a completely unknown machine (NEX Playground) ate 14% of the sales in this period..
 
Now we know why Nintendo panic dropped that surprise Cyber Monday sale, not looking good for the over priced under powered turd slab. Few month old sequel to the highest selling console of all time should be unquestionably mopping the floor with everybody on its first black friday, they fucked something up catastrophically to be outsold 2:1 by a 6 year old machine.
Switch 2 just like og switch gonna thrive if it has to offer high quality musthave exclusives(proper 90+meta, kinda like og switch had, aka mario odyssey and botw which we can kinda consider almost exclusive despite it launching on wiiu too, it sold 33,34m copies on switch after all and only 1,7m on wiiu).

If ninny would launch next proper big mainline zelda game and proper mainline mario platformer in 2026- we gonna see switch2 sales spike big time, problem is we didnt even get reveal trailers for those so its highly probable those games wont launch till 2028 unfortunately...

Atm we got DKB at 91 which is great(but not at 95meta lvl) and only 86 meta MKW, new kirby and metroid both barely at 80meta, new pokemon at 78(it still has crazy good sales but we can guess with 90meta those sales would likely double)which obviously is not high enough for a launch musthave exclusives- switch2 sales highly depend on quality of those exclusives so ofc they suffer.

Personally im waiting for either mainline mario, zelda or monolith jrpg(xenoblade etc) before i even consider buying that mashine and again- we didnt even get reveal trailers on those so we have to assume those diamonds of games are far from release :messenger_astonished:
 
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Now we know why Nintendo panic dropped that surprise Cyber Monday sale, not looking good for the over priced under powered turd slab. Few month old sequel to the highest selling console of all time should be unquestionably mopping the floor with everybody on its first black friday, they fucked something up catastrophically to be outsold 2:1 by a 6 year old machine.
Don't be stupid. Switch 2 going well. Also ps5 sold more on black Friday doesn't mean automatically win the November NPD, some of you need to calm down. And even in the worst case seem the switch 2 still seem going well. Now it's a good thing for Sony if ps5 sell well discounted but during the whole year the sales are drastically plugged and I found asinine this obstination of sony to price so high an almost 6 years old sku and just to sell good in the discounted season. Anyway for now nothing indicates a panic situation for Nintendo. Let's see what will happen during the whole 2026 if it's really the case.
 
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It just got outsold by PS5 and as pointed out, it's not supply constrained. My point is it needs those tentpole games (Mario, Zelda, something new) soon. Switch 2 sold based on the expectation of those games, but those games need to come soon or the console will get a "has no games" reputation. They can't afford to have a Nintendo drought™ this early.
Nintendo did the same for all their consoles since at least the 3ds.

Release without much of a library (I think that this time os better).
Give a few months for the hardcore to buy anyway.
Adjust price if necessary.
Release heavy hitters over the following year.

This is the 1st time since the Wii days that they release two consecutive consoles that follow the same principles.

Don't ask me if it will work, I always think they will fail, I'm in Canada, here their prices are insane and they make Sony look like affordable gaming.
 
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Now we know why Nintendo panic dropped that surprise Cyber Monday sale, not looking good for the over priced under powered turd slab. Few month old sequel to the highest selling console of all time should be unquestionably mopping the floor with everybody on its first black friday, they fucked something up catastrophically to be outsold 2:1 by a 6 year old machine.
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What am I doing? Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken. I'm going off the nial nial thread from a few days ago. I haven't seen anything else from Mat regarding the week ending Nov 22.
He's right with it being incomplete data, given that it was based on specific SKUs, for the top 3.
 
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Lack of games I think, combined with the key card FUD. Anecdotally people see it as Switch Pro and it needs some heavy hitters soon. If they don't get announced by the end of the fiscal year I think Switch 2 will be a dud when it's all said and done.

The truth upsets you so much you call it FUD, you're adorable.
 
Man, Sony is just steamrolling the competition worldwide this holiday it seems.


Should've done more would imply they're not already doing enough. They're well on their way to sell upwards to 19M Switch 2 units within 12 months, beating their initial estimate by more than 25%. They're already handsomely outperforming all metrics as is.
I would love to know how many internet streamers made up for the lack of GAF level gamers buying switch 2 in that 19m.

In the core demographic for traditional under TV Nintendo consoles that actually win platforms a generation I'm still guessing Nintendo are still around WiiU numbers in the UK, so despite them smashing metrics, I would wonder if those metric s align to past ones smashed in any normal way, I'm guess no they don't.
 
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...And it didn't make any difference. How it must feel to be not just the biggest loser, but the laughingstock of the entire industry?
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Phil, Sarah, Booty, Greenberg and the army one:Jez Corden have no power spinning the narrative . But every time they speak, they try.... And no one believes them anymore.

If MS wants Xbox to exist in the future, they need to fire and cut ties with Phil and his gang ASAP.
 
I would love to know how many internet streamers made up for the lack of GAF level gamers buying switch 2 in that 19m.

In the core demographic for traditional under TV Nintendo consoles that actually win platforms a generation I'm still guessing Nintendo are still around WiiU numbers in the UK, so despite them smashing metrics, I would wonder if those metric s align to past ones smashed in any normal way, I'm guess no they don't.
Still? That'd be amassing I'd imagine. I'm thinking they're about WiiU number worldwide as we speak as well.

WiiU sold 14M in its entire lifetime. Nintendo's initial estimate was to sell 15M by March 2026. Safe to say that if they're already at ~14 before Christmas has even hit they'll blast past that initial 15M estimate.

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Or I guess maybe you were talking more generally about the lifetime sales of Nintendo consoles in the UK market Vs. Other markets?

That'd be more difficult to gauge, for me at least.
Looking at regional data might give some idea (if we think the UK's share of that number will be the same over time), but Nintendo didn't report Europe separately for the WiiU which makes it a bit harder to grasp (although it's safe to assume the vast majority of those sales will be from Europe).

WiiU Regional Split Total:
Japan 3,34m [25%]
Americas: 6,49 [47%]
Other: 3,74 [28%]
Total: 13.56m [100%]

Switch (1) Regional Split Total:
Japan 37.77m [25%]
Americas 58.98m [38%]
Europe + Other: 57,26m (39.56m + 17.70m) [37%]
Total: 154.01m [100%]
 
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A career moment for Phil, clearly Microsoft should be allowed to buy three more publishers so it can compete with the juggernaut that is the NEX Playground.
The career moment is he can brag to Nadella that he was able to get Xbox out of 3rd place for the first time in Xbox history.
 
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