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Code Vein 2 has been Censored and uses translation for "Modern Audiences"

The idea of woke localizers bullying Asian creators is bad enough to not buy the game, regardless of how little those changes are. This is a root cause problem and it's much bigger than the end results. Fuck Bandai Namco and the pussy creators who don't revolt at their work being vandalized by activists. I won't pay a single euro for this crap.
Well said indeed. The purple haired lunatics seem to be such a majority that just about every company in every industry is caving to them. To hell with those psychos and the whole Modern Audience shite. These spineless devs who cave to them deserve to go under as well. They gladly sabotage their own product while pushing away the base who supports their product all to appease the woke weirdo mob. Do not support these cowards and let their brand tank overnite.
 
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I tend to buy a fair amount of these Japanese anime games. Atelier, Code Vein, One Piece, Fairy Tail, Tales, etc. They are now censoring specifically panty shots on a lot of these game, but will happily show off plenty of skin with a swimsuit. The censorship is done so poorly and just looks bad. If panty shots are now outlawed, then remove the skirt and dress outfits and replace with something else. The whole thing is just dumb and the half-assed censorship looks like shit and is a distraction and I am tired of paying for it. It used to be safe to buy Japanese games to avoid this kind of crap, but here we are. I have to do so much research now before buying a game to make sure it is not censored or full of "modern audience" slop. I feel like any day now I will just stop playing new games or very few. I am getting to the point where I just want to play older games I know are good from my library.

LOL, the OT is dead and this is the only active Code Vein 2 thread. Also, the Steam reviews are still sitting at around 50%. Ouch.
 
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These days I question everything from social media, especially when I have to hunt down the trailers myself. Let's ask ChatGPT!

The part you're asking about is:

君はきっと正義が狂器に変わる前に止めることができる人だと思うから。

Word-by-word:
正義 (seigi) – justice
が – (subject marker)
狂器 (kyōki) – literally "madness," "insanity," or "fanaticism*"
に変わる前に (ni kawaru mae ni) – before it turns into
止めることができる人 (tomeru koto ga dekiru hito) – someone who can stop it
だと思うから – because I think so

A literal translation is:

"Because I believe you're someone who can stop justice before it turns into madness."

So why did the official English use "bigotry" instead of "madness"?

狂器 (kyōki) is metaphorical here

In Japanese media, 正義が狂気に変わる is a common phrase meaning:

justice becoming fanaticism
righteousness turning zealous
moral conviction becoming dangerous/extremist


It often implies intolerance, judgment, or self-righteous cruelty, more than literal mental insanity. In other words, "madness" is literal, but the intended meaning is closer to:

zealotry
extremism
ideological intolerance
persecuting others in the name of justice


Which overlaps strongly with the English concept of bigotry. English localization aims for theme, not strict literalness

The English script chooses words that:

fit the character's personality
fit the setting
sound natural in English dramatic dialogue
deliver the intended narrative theme


If the character is warning about "justice turning into persecution," "bigotry" conveys that moral corruption better than "madness," which sounds like mental breakdown.

"Madness" carries different connotations in English

In English, "madness" tends to sound like:

losing sanity
chaotic behavior
mental instability


Japanese "狂気 (kyōki)" in moral contexts is closer to:

fanatical extremism
losing sight of true justice
becoming cruel while thinking you're righteous


So the localization team likely selected "bigotry" to express:

justice that becomes intolerance or oppression.

Which matches the narrative tone.

Well, that makes all rather good sense, doesn't it? I mean, we can all agree that literal translations between languages can often sound confusing, especially something like Japanese, and especially without cultural connotation. But naturally, nuance is dead these days, so let's get those outrage YouTube videos going from the regular crowd!

The panty stuff is dumb though, agreed on that.
Get the f outta here with this reasoned, well-thought-out response. No one's looking for this!

(Seriously -- well done, and interesting.)
 
Well said indeed. The purple haired lunatics seem to be such a majority that just about every company in every industry is caving to them. To hell with those psychos and the whole Modern Audience shite. These spineless devs who cave to them deserve to go under as well. They gladly sabotage their own product while pushing away the base who supports their product all to appease the woke weirdo mob. Do not support these cowards and let their brand tank overnite.
Yep. I've been seeing a lot of "who cares", "watch porn", "doesn't matter", bullshit in this thread and I don't like it. That cowardly and weaselly kind of mentality is EXACTLY the reason why activists have managed to ruin so many IPs over the past decade. The idiots parroting that crap are either braindead, spineless, or are activists in disguise. There's no way they can't see how allowing one type of censorship will inevitably lead to more censorship. First it'll be panty shots, then it'll be shoehorning in more alphabet freaks, then it'll be uglifying the females to look like trannies and mutants. And all of the blame can be placed not on the activists, but the gullible and weak willed jackasses that parroted the whole "watch porn", "touch grass" imbeciles.
 
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Anyone who says shit like this was never really interested in the game in the first place, lol.
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Yep. I've been seeing a lot of "who cares", "watch porn", "doesn't matter", bullshit in this thread and I don't like it. That cowardly and weaselly kind of mentality is EXACTLY the reason why activists have managed to ruin so many IPs over the past decade. The idiots parroting that crap are either braindead, spineless, or are activists in disguise. There's no way they can't see how allowing one type of censorship will inevitably lead to more censorship. First it'll be panty shots, then it'll be shoehorning in more alphabet freaks, then it'll be uglifying the females to look like trannies and mutants. And all of the blame can be placed not on the activists, but the gullible and weak willed jackasses that parroted the whole "watch porn", "touch grass" imbeciles.
Could not agree more my friend. Yes the ones spewing that stupid crap are definitely spineless or activists in disguise. You would be shocked how many people today go along with a narrative to make themselves appear progressive and an ally to a certain mindset. All because they are to weak to hold an opinion of their own that may go against others who would shout them down for having a backbone and standing up for a product they actually believe in. Weak and pathetic at the same time. Gutless cowards who would be so afraid of the mob vandalizing the neighborhood that they would simply join in and help them instead of standing their ground and opposing them. That is why so many things have been ruined or failed due to weak people not wanting to stand up to the lunatics ruining them.
 
Fuku in Nioh 3 was censored too apparently can't even escape it there lol.
I guess not as egregious but the game overall is also tamer.

It still kinda annoys the crap out of me tho that it even happened at all, it doesn't even make sense from a '' muh history '' pov like why is she wearing nylon tights all the sudden in feudal Japan?
Thighs are too much now why are they treating the player like five year olds or like we live in the victorian times?
She already wears a traditional Japanese garb to begin with at the start of the scene then she swaps to a censored version of her original it's so completely pointless and nonsensical.
The fact she does that at all annoys me if she had just stayed in the new one that is already more conservative it wouldn't really have bothered me.
But just the fact she swaps to a for literally no reason at all censored outfit is just so pointless and annoying.
 
If I was younger and had more will to try new things I'd start learning Japanese. These days I'm just to be ignoring more Japanese games.
As a guy who learned english and german, and who's native language is polish(one of hardest languages on the planet), forget about it bro, for avg westerner learning korean/japanese/chinese is so fricken hard u will give up 10x over before u even learn basics, i could watch german tv channels and understand 95% of it as 14yo with 2x 45min lessons weekly in school, yet i cant watch japanese anime w/o subs even now in 2026 even tho i started watching anime in early 90s so 35 years ago- i learned japanese culture/some sayings but actual langague barrier is crazy steep :D
 
"Just watch porn" is like saying to someone who enjoys good soundtracks in games, "just buy a CD/MP3/whatever." Having something you like integrated into another thing you like tends to be enjoyable. It's pretty simple: if you like A and you like B, A+B is often better than A alone.
 
I said it once and i say it again.

Modern Audiences is a myth. Pure gaslighting from companies except that they only gaslighted themselves in to believing it.

Modern audiences dont want turn based in jrpgs anymore. Until... someone made good ones. Modern audiences dont buy crpgs anymore. Until.. someone made a good one. etc
 
"Just watch porn" is like saying to someone who enjoys good soundtracks in games, "just buy a CD/MP3/whatever." Having something you like integrated into another thing you like tends to be enjoyable. It's pretty simple: if you like A and you like B, A+B is often better than A alone.

It's just a non-answer meant to deflect and shut down discourse.
People lost their absolute shit when Rainbow Siege censored blood to a point the devs undid it too.
And when discourse started around a potential gore toggle for MK due to tournament and sponsors issues Twitter had a total mental breakdown about it.
Suddenly then it was fine to care about censorship and no one made fun of them for it, but the moment it's any sort of suggestive content people will aggressively attack you for talking about it at all.

I am not saying there aren't unhinged people who take it too far.
But quite frankly 99% of the time what I see is people simply saying '' this is what happened, and I don't like it... '' and then in the comments people are like '' OMG YOU GOONER HOW DARE YOU CARE ABOUT THIS WTF PORN ADDICT JUST WATCH PORN WHO CARES ABOUT THIS WHY ARE YOU CRYING AND SO ANGRY ABOUT THIS E#IUGEIUGIEIGEWI!!?!?!?!? ''.
The latter is like almost always 500 trillion times more heated and angry that people even talk about it than the people actually talking about it.
If they don't care and it doesn't matter then why comment about it at all just ignore and go enjoy the game lmao?

I mean censoring blood in games doesn't actually matter in the grand scheme of things either and doesn't impact the gameplay itself, if people want to see blood they could go watch liveleaks or something too.
I really think on some level more people do care about it and do agree that it's stupid, but they're also extremely addicted to video games and want to rationalize their purchase somehow they don't want to feel as if they did something wrong by buying it.
So they have very extreme negative reactions towards anyone questioning or criticizing the game in any way.
 
Also I'll never get over the irony of how often I see furries with their entire profiles filled to the brim with suggestive and even pornographic furry art calling other people '' gooner '' lmfao.
I remember when an artist made a genderbend of Miguel from the Spiderverse movies and she drew her quite muscular but also thicc, and there were a ton of angry people in the comments calling her a gooner and insulting her.
Then I check some of the profiles and they all were spamming extreme muscle fetish porn like ENORMOUS One Piece freakishly huge muscular naked women with tiny heads.

Yeah I wonder why they took issue with the art, something tells me it wasn't because it was '' gooner '' lol.
Doesn't even have to be that extreme, but quite often when I see people insulting others over this I'll check their profiles and it's full of porn.
Not uncommon with artists too attacking other artists for drawing more conventionally attractive women or people being upset about censorship then I check their profiles and it's all porn with some kind of ultra niche artstyle.
If you sit around drawing and/ or retweeting porn all day you have no right to call others gooner.
 
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Also I'll never get over the irony of how often I see furries with their entire profiles filled to the brim with suggestive and even pornographic furry art calling other people '' gooner '' lmfao.
I remember when an artist made a genderbend of Miguel from the Spiderverse movies and she drew her quite muscular but also thicc, and there were a ton of angry people in the comments calling her a gooner and insulting her.
Then I check some of the profiles and they all were spamming extreme muscle fetish porn like ENORMOUS One Piece freakishly huge muscular naked women with tiny heads.

Yeah I wonder why they took issue with the art, something tells me it wasn't because it was '' gooner '' lol.
Doesn't even have to be that extreme, but quite often when I see people insulting others over this I'll check their profiles and it's full of porn.
Not uncommon with artists too attacking other artists for drawing more conventionally attractive women or people being upset about censorship then I check their profiles and it's all porn with some kind of ultra niche artstyle.
If you sit around drawing and/ or retweeting porn all day you have no right to call others gooner.


It's all projection. To me, somebody who uses the word "gooner" as an insult is likely to be a pedo, or a weirdo at best. As you say, just check their post history, it's not like they are hiding it. You can guess their physical appearance too. Just check who writes these articles in the gaming media and they look exactly as you expect.
 
This weird panty shadow censorship has been in every Japanese game in the last few years. I wonder what is behind it. Publisher? Financing? These games are already niche and do not sell well. Steam reviews tend to be mixed. Dark times.
I'd say it's one of these:
  • Woke executive of the western branch of the publisher bribed by a hedge fund like Blackrock if it's one of their main investors
  • Woke DEI department in the western branch of the publisher
  • Woke DEI 'external advisors' like Sweet Baby Inc or similar
  • Woke and unprofessional localizators who prioritize their brainwashed ideology/religion over doing a good job
4 cancer types of the industry that should be removed.
 
Also I'll never get over the irony of how often I see furries with their entire profiles filled to the brim with suggestive and even pornographic furry art calling other people '' gooner '' lmfao.
It's all projection. They hate themselves because deep down they know their deviant behavior is wrong and has hurt them but they choose instead to project the internal hatred they have outward instead of fixing themselves.
 
The question here is why the hell the industy in itself is letting them, or worse, helping them achieve that goal?


In the case of Japanese studios it's a mix of naivety and misconceptions. Bear in mind that companies like Square or Capcom have American branches that spread the mind virus on to HQs. If you were a corpo guy outside the gaming discussion, you would trust your branches and partners and would never think they actually hate you and want to erase your identity. It all sounds like a conspiracy theory and only when there's a huge backlash from the market they start listening to the ones who really matter.

If you explain what is going on in the entertainment industry to people who are not in the know, they won't believe you because the situation seems too crazy to be true.
 
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It's all projection. To me, somebody who uses the word "gooner" as an insult is likely to be a pedo, or a weirdo at best. As you say, just check their post history, it's not like they are hiding it. You can guess their physical appearance too. Just check who writes these articles in the gaming media and they look exactly as you expect.

I think this happens with basically every slang word online, people get a hold of it and they abuse it into the dirt.
There's just something odd about it here in particular like why is it anyone else's business what others do with their money?
If someone doesn't want to buy a game because it's censored why does it matter to them?

When I think of an actual gooner as in porn addict I think of someone who neglects their family to watch porn, or just in general someone where their porn consumption is having an actual negative impact on their life they just stay at home from work to watch porn or bring porn to work and jack off because they just can't stop.
Not someone who just says '' I don't like that they changed this in a video game so I'll buy something else instead ''.
People make those decisions *ALL THE TIME*, like some people won't buy a game because they're offended by cleavage in it how is that okay then?

I dunno if I'd qualify myself as angry moreso annoyed and frustrated and I do vote with my wallet.
But a lot of the reactionaries against anyone criticizing these decisions are furious and extremely aggro and heated about it, they're like actually angry that you won't spend your money on a game they like.
To me that's a trillion times more weird.

Like I understand that sometimes some people take it too far, I think the Grummz anti-Stellar Blade crusade was weird and took things too far too.
On the other hand I think the reaction against it was just as weird if not weirder because they were even more aggro and heated and about something they supposedly don't care about it.
Most of them even spent months leading up to the release of the game calling it a gooner game and suddenly did a 180 just because the anti-woke didn't like it anymore.
 
Because they share one thing in common:

They are all liberal. They don't care about anything besides 'progressive'.
Someone at the top of the ladder has to care about money and at some point all this "progressive" shit will show it never bring in the cash or worse, so it can't be that they all are just focusing with all their might in destroying themselves from within
 
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I still can't believe this is actually the show lmao, wtf happened?
I haven't watched the latest seasons but last time I remember the animation was great, the show is super popular too no?
Not like they should lack a budget?

Someone at the top of the ladder has to care about money and at some point all this "progressive" shit will show it never bring in the cash or worse, so it can't be that they all are just focusing with all their might in destroy themselves from within

True I think very few games actually flop as a result of it tho.
I think the question that should be asked instead is if it actually created anymore sales or cost them?

I just have such a hard time seeing anyone buying Code Vein 2 because of this.
But I 100% believe that there were people who didn't.
I dunno how significant the sales differences would be, but the fact that it's lost sales at all kinda just proves that it's the wrong decision.

Even if you're a defender of the game and view it as your mission in life to white knight for it, it's pretty counter productive to defend censorship because ultimately it serves no purpose and only does harm.
 
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You guys mad because you can look at a YOUNG polygon girl"s panties? 🤢
I apologise, I'm new here and don't know all the GAF 'characters' (well, except for Gonzito and Gymwolf and a few others). So I'm gonna ask, are you the character who makes the jokes, the silly jokes? Is your question a joke? Sigh.
 
I apologise, I'm new here and don't know all the GAF 'characters' (well, except for Gonzito and Gymwolf and a few others). So I'm gonna ask, are you the character who makes the jokes, the silly jokes? Is your question a joke? Sigh.

Hopefully I am being called a character in a good way here 🤣
 
I still can't believe this is actually the show lmao, wtf happened?
I haven't watched the latest seasons but last time I remember the animation was great, the show is super popular too no?
Not like they should lack a budget?



True I think very few games actually flop as a result of it tho.
I think the question that should be asked instead is if it actually created anymore sales or cost them?


I just have such a hard time seeing anyone buying Code Vein 2 because of this.
But I 100% believe that there were people who didn't.
I dunno how significant the sales differences would be, but the fact that it's lost sales at all kinda just proves that it's the wrong decision.

Even if you're a defender of the game and view it as your mission in life to white knight for it, it's pretty counter productive to defend censorship because ultimately it serves no purpose and only does harm.

To this day, I think it doesn't affect sales unless is too blatant, the average person is pretty damn flexible on this and folds quick under social pressure, "You don't like it? Are you a bigot!?", so as long as it's not too obvious it'll keep happening, in this case the censoring will be deflected easily with no problem because "if it was there, I'd be considered a creep for playing it that way"

But the most important part is in your question, does bending over backwards to try and appeal to this potential never seen before (because they never show up) "modern audience" created more sales?

Seems like it doesn't...
 
As a guy who learned english and german, and who's native language is polish(one of hardest languages on the planet), forget about it bro, for avg westerner learning korean/japanese/chinese is so fricken hard u will give up 10x over before u even learn basics, i could watch german tv channels and understand 95% of it as 14yo with 2x 45min lessons weekly in school, yet i cant watch japanese anime w/o subs even now in 2026 even tho i started watching anime in early 90s so 35 years ago- i learned japanese culture/some sayings but actual langague barrier is crazy steep :D
I'm English 1st language and it took me a decade to learn Korean, read and write. I can confirm, it's really hard.
 
To this day, I think it doesn't affect sales unless is too blatant, the average person is pretty damn flexible on this and folds quick under social pressure, "You don't like it? Are you a bigot!?", so as long as it's not too obvious it'll keep happening, in this case the censoring will be deflected easily with no problem because "if it was there, I'd be considered a creep for playing it that way"

But the most important part is in your question, does bending over backwards to try and appeal to this potential never seen before (because they never show up) "modern audience" created more sales?

Seems like it doesn't...

I mostly agree with you but I actually disagree in this particular instance as this is an Anime game and the '' playing Barbie '' aspect of the game is quite significant.
With suggestive stuff I think peoples principles are a lot more flexible, even a lot of anti-censorship people fall down the censorship bingo card trap of '' I like it better this way so it's okay '' quite a lot which is rather short-sighted.
It definitely depends on the game tho when it comes to these types of games I think the impact is greater than usual.

Like I said earlier I've boycotted Blizzard games for years now it pretty much started when they began censoring Hearthstone and then only got worse.
But I am under no delusion that it has impacted them significantly in a negative way even tho the overall consensus was against the censorship.

It's honestly a bit wild to me sometimes how quick people are to defend or look past it.
The Street Fighter and Overwatch crossover for instance, the Cammy skin for Widowmaker is censored and just looks like an awful 4kids version and makes no sense and it just begs the question why the Classic outfit and not the new SF6 one instead?
Same with the Juri one they ruined the spider pattern ( spiders being a major theme of Juri ) by just painting her whole torso black both of them are just drastically worse but I pretty much see no one criticizing it.
Same when Rainbow Siege had the 2B skin and it looked absolutely awfully modeled and just had full white pants and people just shrugged it off.

I dunno tho transmog etc in MMO's and dressing up my character is one of the most fun aspects to me, but I think most don't care that much about it and will actively eat shit and not be bothered.
Not caring about it is fine I guess, but actively defending it and shitting on people for caring it is just bizarre to me.
 
As a guy who learned english and german, and who's native language is polish(one of hardest languages on the planet), forget about it bro, for avg westerner learning korean/japanese/chinese is so fricken hard u will give up 10x over before u even learn basics, i could watch german tv channels and understand 95% of it as 14yo with 2x 45min lessons weekly in school, yet i cant watch japanese anime w/o subs even now in 2026 even tho i started watching anime in early 90s so 35 years ago- i learned japanese culture/some sayings but actual langague barrier is crazy steep :D
This. All the character-based languages are practically impossible to learn without being exposed to the language 24/7. I tried learning Chinese for 5-6 years, and Polish is my native language as well. Just no.
 
This is a total lack of understanding your audience. Mid ass Souls game that's primary audience mainly liked it because it's anime is exactly the kind of game you don't censor. Censorship is always bad, but if there is one group of people who will rake you over the coals about it, it's anime fans. Also, this series was never popular enough to get away with something like this. It's mildly successful at most, and again, it's only even that because of the aesthetic.
 
Get the f outta here with this reasoned, well-thought-out response. No one's looking for this!

(Seriously -- well done, and interesting.)
And guess what, it is wrong and it has chatgpt lying through his teeth, but if you didn't even care to double read it and verify, instead of just seeing big text and praising it, you probably are pre-biased to the fact.
 
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I can't take anyone seriously who uses the word "bigot" or "bigotry"
It's like a 16th century insult, like people screaming "shame", what year is it?
 
When I think of an actual gooner as in porn addict I think of someone who neglects their family to watch porn, or just in general someone where their porn consumption is having an actual negative impact on their life they just stay at home from work to watch porn or bring porn to work and jack off because they just can't stop.
Not someone who just says '' I don't like that they changed this in a video game so I'll buy something else instead ''.
People make those decisions *ALL THE TIME*, like some people won't buy a game because they're offended by cleavage in it how is that okay then?

This movie is showing quite well how porn addiction can fuck up your life.


Guy has perfect woman (young Scarlet Johansson) but he prefers porn...

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