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[begotten]

I imagine the sticker shock is from non-Pokemon fans who haven't been waiting and asking for this for years.

 

[StereoVsn]

So a 20+ year old ROM for $20 on the Switch essentially, and without any QoL improvements or anything…. And people are buying this, lmao.

You can play this game on a random handheld from Aliexpress for a few $ or your phone with a controller.

 

[IDKFA]

So a 20+ year old ROM for $20 on the Switch essentially, and without any QoL improvements or anything…. And people are buying this, lmao.

You can play this game on a random handheld from Aliexpress for a few $ or your phone with a controller.

Pretty sure they're compatible with Home. That will be the reason they're not on NSO as well.

 

[Thurible]

Fire red was like my first pokemon game. Will this have pokemon home accessibility?

 

[begotten]

Pretty sure they're compatible with Home. That will be the reason they're not on NSO as well.

I don't use NSO much, but can't you rewind? That would be insane to do also in an official Pokemon title.

 

[StereoVsn]

Pretty sure they're compatible with Home. That will be the reason they're not on NSO as well.

That's tremendous amount of work from the 2 interns sitting in a cubicle somewhere in Kyoto.

 

[IDKFA]

I don't use NSO much, but can't you rewind? That would be insane to do also in an official Pokemon title.

That's also probably another reason. The rewind feature would be crazy for a Pokémon title. Especially with Home support.

That's tremendous amount of work from the 2 interns sitting in a cubicle somewhere in Kyoto.

No idea. I don't know how technical it would be to get these games comparable with Home. I'll take your word for it.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

They probably think they're throwing us a bone because it's not tied to a subscription

 

[StereoVsn]

That's also probably another reason. The rewind feature would be crazy for a Pokémon title. Especially with Home support.



No idea. I don't know how technical it would be to get these games comparable with Home. I'll take your word for it.

Here is their workflow:

1. Launch Claude Code.
2. Provide folders with source code to Pokemon and to Home API.
3. "Claude, integrate Home access into Pokemon code base". Run Ralph loop till done.
4. "Run CodeRabbit to check for bugs".
5. Submit to prod branch.

 

[bosnianpie]

Will buy just for nostalgia.

 

[Power Pro]

They probably think they're throwing us a bone because it's not tied to a subscription

I don't think they think that at all. They didn't wanna give any of the main Pokemon games for "free" with the subscription. Still fine by me because I hate that.

Reminds me how much I hate that I can't just purchase the virtual boy games after spending $100 for the headset, gotta stay paying. That sucks

 

[BlackTron]

I mean I would have bought two retro handhelds that emulated linking to each other in an easy and reliable manner, but it doesn't exist yet and Nintendo beat them to it.

I was actually looking at real GBA's to combine with repro carts on eBay last year to solve this problem.

Now I solve it for 20 bucks, keep crying everyone

 

[graywolf323]

I mean I would have bought two retro handhelds that emulated linking to each other in an easy and reliable manner, but it doesn't exist yet and Nintendo beat them to it.

you've been able to do that for years already

 

[ReyBrujo]

Not buying them since I'm only "attached" to Pokémon Blue. I understand the no online play because as standalone games people would have had to pay both the game and subscription, I also understand that they want to reach people without NSO though I thought they had a high attach rate. But 20 bucks is way too high. I would have preferred a Game & Watch console with a Pokémon game just like they did with Zelda and Mario.

 

[DreamcastSkies]

This is awesome. I hope the rest of the 2D era Pokemon games get placed on the e-shop.

 

[touchfuzzy]

"Why pay money for this when I can steal it?" is a retarded comment that can be made about anything.

 

[Xion_Stellar]

I might have considered this purchase at a $5 price point or maybe even $10 but for $20 a piece? No thanks at that point I rather pull out both Pokemon Fire Red & Pokemon Leaf Green from storage and extract my own ROMs with my GB Operator

 

[LordCBH]

Here is their workflow:

1. Launch Claude Code.
2. Provide folders with source code to Pokemon and to Home API.
3. "Claude, integrate Home access into Pokemon code base". Run Ralph loop till done.
4. "Run CodeRabbit to check for bugs".
5. Submit to prod branch.

Microsoft is a good example for why you shouldn't use AI to code. Look how shit windows has turned.

 

[StereoVsn]

Microsoft is a good example for why you shouldn't use AI to code. Look how shit windows has turned.

For this sort of thing if you are careful with your plan files Claude Code or Codex would be fine.

MS is pretty incompetent though and Windows code base is many magnitudes more complex.

 

[Germuso]

20$ for a rom I expected to sell my son

I really love Nintendo fans

 

[MidGenRefresh]

20$ for a rom I expected to sell my son

I really love Nintendo fans

Is such a shit value. A game like The Witcher 3 is what, 5 bucks on Steam right now? Why people even defend this?

 

[Kataploom]

Is such a shit value. A game like The Witcher 3 is what, 5 bucks on Steam right now? Why people even defend this?

Cause it's their goddamn money, they probably don't give a shit about tw3 and do about Pokemon, whatever dude.

I'm quite impressed they didn't put these in NSO but I think it's a very convenient way to use modern features in old games, which Pokemon fans will appreciate.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Cause it's their goddamn money, they probably don't give a shit about tw3 and do about Pokemon, whatever dude.

Whatever, indeed. I agree, their money, their decisions. But for the love of dog, don't defend this nonsense.

 

[SomeGit]

I don't mind the price, but if has no home compatibility I don't have any interest on it.

 

[Orbital2060]

Thats awesome, fire red and leaf green I completed both back when they released. Arbitrarily my favorite pokemon games

 

[Ryseer]

I'm actually glad they're charging for them because I hate Switch Online subscription stuff and not being able to buy most retro games

 

[Fbh]

Those complaining about the price lack empathy. You guys should show some appreciation for the Nintendo executives who agreed to release this for just $20 and now have to go through the gut wrenching experience of seeing people pay less than $60 for a low budget Pokemon game.

 

[Kokoloko85]

Now do the other GBA and DS games + trading

 

[flying_sq]

Not that I am going to buy it, but did they at least update it with online trading and battles?

 

[hououinkyouma00]

I'm a certified Gen 1er so I'm in.
I loved the anime, Blue/Yellow, the TCG GameBoy game, and collecting cards (never played the card game I just liked collecting the cards) as a kid but I dropped the games after gen 2 (played a little bit of Gold but never finished it as I think my GBC died IIRC) so I never played any of the GBA/DS/3DS games.

$20 is a lot but if $20 for something I want was a hurdle for me I got bigger issues.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

 

[Rran]

I'm not going to be a tool and suggest people steal it. I hate game piracy.

But I also hate that digital GBA games were $8 two generations ago, are now even older, yet are 250% of that price today.

The fact that you don't get both games with the purchase and choose one at startup (which should've been the case since, like, online play was a thing) is the cherry on top. And no online play, no multiple languages, no physical release...if they went all-in like some Capcom/Konami/etc do with retro releases and include a bunch of cool bonus stuff, online play, both versions, etc it'd easily be worth 20. Sometimes Nintendo is just freaking aggravating.

 

[Zacfoldor]

I imagine the sticker shock is from non-Pokemon fans who haven't been waiting and asking for this for years.

The sticker shock is performative bullshit used to, I dunno, chat socially with others?

Yesterday people were bitching about 5 dollar upgrade for XBCX.

They will complain about anything but then pay 30 dollars month for Xbox live and 500 dollars for a stick of ram.

Then complain that they shutdown bluepoint but also refuse to spend money on software and only buy bargain bin games. Honestly it's tiring. 20 dollars is a snack. People complaining about it are just opining for unrelated social reasons. Then they complain about 20 dollars a year for NSO. These are not serious people. A world where people want everything suddenly for free but for nothing to change. Unreasonable people also unwilling to negotiate.

 

[K' Dash]

I played these on release, I'm not interested.

But its great that they have them available for people who want to play them, specially newcomers to the franchise.

Fortunately, buying them is completely optional.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Nick and dime.

Who are they?

 

[LordCBH]

Me watching new gen pokemon fans discover what Physical/Special split means now that a game that existed pre-split is available to them.

 

[Branded]

Standalone purchase, no save state, no load state, no rewind, nothing emulators have and still $20.

Lmao

Yeah not even the bare minimum of features that we have come to expect, let alone some remastered (QoL) features...

If you buy this you are a sucker.

 

[PSFan]

I only have two questions. Does this mean that Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald are coming? And will these games connect to Coliseum and XD when the release on NSO?

 

[The_hunter]

I was expecting these to be $40 a pop lol

 

[Itchy Tickles]

The people glazing and defending this are what's wrong with gaming. Disgraceful.

 

[DarkShadowXI]

Makes me wonder if this is a test to see if they can start selling NSO games separately and if this will eventually end up on NSO?

 

[BlackTron]

you've been able to do that for years already

I said "in an easy and reliable manner". I watched the video that thumbnail came from over a year ago while trying to solve this problem. Look at how long it takes to set it up, and then too it only works for Game Boy, not gen 3 on GBA which would be the firered/leafgreen remakes.

 

[keefged4]

 

[Pataponpon]

Not even a crt filter for $20? Not getting this, Lets Go Eevee/Pikachu is more worth it to me if I want to revisit Kanto

 

[kevboard]

The sticker shock is performative bullshit used to, I dunno, chat socially with others?

Yesterday people were bitching about 5 dollar upgrade for XBCX.

They will complain about anything but then pay 30 dollars month for Xbox live and 500 dollars for a stick of ram.

Then complain that they shutdown bluepoint but also refuse to spend money on software and only buy bargain bin games. Honestly it's tiring. 20 dollars is a snack. People complaining about it are just opining for unrelated social reasons. Then they complain about 20 dollars a year for NSO. These are not serious people. A world where people want everything suddenly for free but for nothing to change. Unreasonable people also unwilling to negotiate.

the difference here however is that, well, playing GBA games on essentially anything that has access to a web browser is so easy now, that a $20 price tag is directly competing with a $0 price tag.

with something like Afterplay you can run Pokemon FR/LG on your phone, your Xbox, your PC, probably many Smart TVs, and maybe your Steam Deck, with full cross save support and retro achievements support, simply in a browser.

so, this isn't comparable to anything you listed there. I can't just get a free stick of ram, or subscribe to gamepass for free... but I sure as hell am like 3 clicks away from playing Pokemon Fire Red for free on every single web browser having device I own.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Not even a crt filter for $20? Not getting this, Lets Go Eevee/Pikachu is more worth it to me if I want to revisit Kanto

Didn't realize the GBA had a CRT screen.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Didn't realize the GBA had a CRT screen.

Dude needs to invest in the GBA Player if he wants that.

 

[proandrad]

With zero enhancements I expected this to just be on the virtual console. 3DS will remain my go to for these games.

 

[Pelao]

20 bucks for a ROM, not even a remaster.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Makes me wonder if this is a test to see if they can start selling NSO games separately and if this will eventually end up on NSO?

Doubt it. IIRC mainline Pokémon games have never been on even Virtual Console. Pokémon will always be in a league of its own even in comparison to Nintendo first party titles.

They know people will pay it.