that was only like three days of sonic 3ds sales. if the 3ds actually becomes popular in the states, i think generations might wind up doing about as well as the last few handheld sonic games.
NPD November 2011 Sales Results [Update 7: Skyrim, CoD Wii, PC Retail Sales Up 57%]
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that was only like three days of sonic 3ds sales. if the 3ds actually becomes popular in the states, i think generations might wind up doing about as well as the last few handheld sonic games.
I wouldn't buy that Sonic game on any platform. The game looks horrible and forces homing attack. Seriously, how does it look worse than a Dreamcast game?
Yeah I neglected the 3d part too. So it's only a huge bomba on 1 platform and probably only a regular bomba on the rest
I'm wondering if it actually is a bomba. We know it's 26th on the list. In November that could be over 100k, possibly 200k. Plus Sonic games usually have legs. See Sonic 06 somehow becoming a platinum hits game.
I think the games will do fine.
I actually don't recall a much major platformer game release with such high budget and high quality 2D this gen. So there is their "toe outside the line". AAA 2D games certainly won't happen more now.
bigtroyjon
Member
Good, the sooner publishers stop wasting money on games nobody wants to play then the sooner we can get to a point where most projects end up being successful. Once that happens the variety and risk taking will increase as the floor will be raised and companies no longer have to try and hit a home run every time just to survive.
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
Yeah, fuck those guys taking creative risks and making interesting software! Hey, I have a design philosophy for those a-holes. I call it "lowest common denominator". Aim for that demographic and you'll never have to worry about "wasting money on games nobody wants to play", amirite?
bigtroyjon
Member
It would be nice if you could look at the entire discussion and read more than the first 13 words of my post before you start freaking out.
you're talking about rayman origins?
Wolves Evolve
Member
Well I've read the last few pages, and in fact I'm totally unclear if you last post makes sense. Can you clarify? Are you saying it would better for publishers to take fewer risks? I mean thats the science of game publishing - they THINK all these games will be successful but production is inexact, the market doesn't have an invisible hand.
I agree that retail $60, same week as Call of Duty, for what is clearly a niche game is absurd.
bigtroyjon
Member
I want them to take risks on the development side and not on the publishing side. Spend money creating new and interesting content, just don't waste money trying to sell that content to a marketplace that doesn't want it.
you're still talking about rayman origins?
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
Wow! Who would've thought that Cave Story 3D would end up doing roughly half of what Sonic Generations did!?
Now I'm really curious about how the PS360 versions of SG sold!
ViewtifulJC
Banned
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Forgotten about the release date, so it's maybe not so bad. Sonic games tend to be leggy sellers on Nintendo systems, Colors on DS actually sold more in 2011 than it did in 2010 (and it's making it in the DS top 10 both years iirc).
Well...
Jvm's article in the new reduced style: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...ay_Cheer_From_November_Game_Sales.php?print=1
I miss that sales table comparison and the rainbow graph. RIP. It was still very informative.
I miss that sales table comparison and the rainbow graph. RIP. It was still very informative.
AbsoluteZero
Banned
Only Call of Duty I've played was Call of Duty 4, didn't like it, so I didn't continue the series.
But I was at a friend's house the other day and they were playing Black Ops Wii on like a 60" TV. It I didn't see him holding the Wii Remote & Nunchuck you could have told me he was playing the 360 or PS3 game and I wouldn't have argued. Looked much better than I expected.
But I was at a friend's house the other day and they were playing Black Ops Wii on like a 60" TV. It I didn't see him holding the Wii Remote & Nunchuck you could have told me he was playing the 360 or PS3 game and I wouldn't have argued. Looked much better than I expected.
I hope not. The HD versions deserves better sales since the 3DS version is apparently shit.
Holy shit.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
So much for the "it's on 4 platforms!" excuse.
Well they run at around the same resolution so I'm not surprised.
oddworld18
Member
At the very least I'll be able to pick up Shinobi and AC for a fiver each around March.
With 900k in November, 1.2m in December is charitable ?
1.5m is the minimum they're gonna do this year and it will be the first time they'll break the 5m units mark in a single year in the US.
sixteen-bit
Member
Did Atlus release any numbers for KOFXIII?
I'll say it again:
'Holy Shit'
Is the blockbuster agenda seeping into handhelds? How are these sales so dysmal?
Wow this is just.... sad ._.
Something Combat something something Legacy
I wonder what Ubisoft not scrapping AC3DS and turning it into Revelations could've done for 3DS this holiday season. A proper 'AAA high value yada yada third party exclusive' from a big and popular franchise could've turned some heads.
Ace Combat
The Abominable Snowman
Member
So what does this mean for DS? What were the other big software titles?
I don't think the sales are much worse than expected. Handheld games aren't hyped up by gamers nearly as much as most console games, so 20k for a few days of Sonic sales is actually not that bad, I think. It's not a game that appeals so much to the day 1 core gamer, so it probably will do rather fine over the holidays.
Cave Story and Shinobi simply are really low budget efforts that wouldn't have sold decently on any plattform in this state. Cave Story is undeniably a fantastic game, but releasing the remake ("Now with ugly 3D graphics instead of great pixel art!") of a once freeware game for full price was a huge mistake. Everyone who knows the game swallows hard when seeing the price tag, and people who don't know the game... why would they bother now?
And Shinobi is an ugly looking low budget effort which was stealth released by its publishers. There was absolutely no buzz at all around it. I haven't even seen reviews or anything. I don't even have a clue whether or not it's a good game.
airmangataosenai
Member
Ace Combat is unfathomable though. That appeared to have decent reviews and production values yet it's the biggest bomb this month.
electroplankton
Banned
very small installed base. little advertisement. bad time to release them (Ace Combat just after the one on console... With almost the same name, lol). mediocre games (shinobi?). big games during the same month. Nintendo platforms tend to see longer sales.
A Twisty Fluken
Member
it looks like a half-assed spinoff on the shelf. until i paid attention to the thread here i had no idea it was either 1. a remake of AC2 or 2. actually good. it doesn't surprise me that it did as badly as it did.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Sonic launching after Mario was goddamn stupid, in my opinion.
20 days was not going to make a difference to the game's quality, it should have either released alongside the HD versions or slightly before it.
20 days was not going to make a difference to the game's quality, it should have either released alongside the HD versions or slightly before it.
Mr. B Natural
Member
yurinka
Member
Still expensive for the mass market, unlike the others still have several pricecuts to come, so a longer life. And they still have to kill the PS2!
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
3DS software in general seems to be doing pretty poor worldwide excluding Zelda and Mario.
Makes me wonder if third parties will risk getting burned again.
Makes me wonder if third parties will risk getting burned again.
goldenpp72
Member
Sonic is really hard to find around here on the 3ds, it's also not available on amazon.com and has not been for awhile, i'm not sure why they seemed to have shipped out a small amount.
Or just my area plus amazon, heh.
Or just my area plus amazon, heh.
sixteen-bit
Member
any data for Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3?
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
I don't think War in the North sold very well. Might be a good time to start working on Death Tank 2.