December Wrasslin |OT| Shaking Hands, Jerking Knees, Eating Mistletoe, Feeling Energy

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Buckethead said:
Yes.
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Look what you've made me do! You've made me go and dig up an old post I made on another forum. I think I might have posted a shorter, more agreeable version on here too.

Me said:
Fair few posts in this thread. Many of them long, more of them indecipherable. Just some points that I saw brought up while skimming:

  1. Rey Mysterio is too small to be a believable world champion.

    If Rey Mysterio is too small to ever have a prolonged reign as world champion, then the inverse must also be true - Big Show, Mark Henry and The Great Khali should just sit on their opponents and have the belts all but glued to their waists. After all, John Cena, Randy Orton and Triple H are all tiny in comparison to those giants - who'd ever believe they would win in a real fight?

  2. Rey losing the title was booked badly.

    I don't want to jump the gun - they could still rectify this - but it kind of was. Rey wants to take on all comers and was willing to take on the man who he saw as the true number one contender as soon as possible, I get that. Does Cena not have a similarly honourable attitude, though? Is defeating Rey after he's already fought The Miz and Alberto Del Rio not a tainted victory?

    Yeah, Cena had to have the belt, but could his match have not waited until next week? Hopefully this point will be proven redundant by two weeks of amazing build. We'll see.

  3. Rey Mysterio is not the best wrestler in the world.

    Maybe not, but he's not so far down the ladder as to laugh at the idea. Rey puts on perhaps the most consistently good matches in the entire WWE and is an underrated promo guy. I presume English isn't even his first language. Merchandise sales? Ratings? Like I give a fuck. He is the man I would trust above anyone else to go out there and put on a good match.

    People criticise him because his knees are shot and he's tubby (which is rich when I picture the people it's coming from) but, even without the incredible agility he had in his youth, he remains likely the most exciting and dynamic high-flyer in the world. There are people that can jump higher and do more flips, sure, but they always seem more like gymnasts than wrestlers. I'm looking at you, Sin Cara.

    I've been guilty of as much misguided Rey-Rey bashing as anyone else, but I've grown tired of it and I'm confused where this is coming from. Are people still upset because he didn't want to give Dolph Ziggler some pointless trinket?

I hope this isn't the last we see of Rey Mysterio and the WWE Championship. A Mysterio/Punk/Cena match down the line is something I would drown puppies for.
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Other Poster said:
I agree and disagree with Sam, but we need to view this on multiple levels.

Sure, anyone could win a fight on any given day. Or, someone more experienced than another can win a fight on any given day. For instance, Fedor Emelianenko has made a career out of beating larger fighters in the MMZ heavyweight divisions.

But rarely would you see a 175lb man fighting and defeating a 500lb behemoth. This is why Rey isn't a fitting world champion and why he can't be viewed as believable. That is why this storyline is written perfectly... Rey, with his veteran skill, won the title. But he is unable to hold onto it and go on a winning streak because, in a sense, he isn't large enough to believably compete in that division.
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Me said:
Certainly you agree that viewers take professional wrestling with a pinch more salt than they do mixed martial arts, Other Poster? If Georges St. Pierre and Anderson Silva had a forty minute match that was only decided when Dana White ran down to the octagon and attempted to interfere, there might be a few raised eyebrows, no?

People can make allowances for stuff like that but suddenly balk when Mark Henry sells a dropkick? Well, I'm the guy that balks when those people balk.
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I should also take the time to point out that Mysterio/Rhodes at WrestleMania and Extreme Rules were tremendous matches that belong up there with Punk/Cena and Orton/Christian in terms of the best matches the WWE's had all year.
 
Buckethead said:
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If she wasn't such a ho anyway. don't want them herps.
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For Lacey, not Chyna
 
Sam we're not going to agree about Rey.

I can see him competing against Eddie or CM Punk, there's enough of a suspension of disbelief there.

That and I find his gimmick, look, and wrestling completely boring.
So not only do I think it's inappropriate and unbelievable to have him competing in the heavyweight division, I think it's boring as hell to watch.

He should stick to his strengths: being a cruiserweight. Enjoyed him a lot back in the day and even tagging with Konnan. It was fun. Now... not so much.
 
Mr. Sam said:
Look what you've made me do! You've made me go and dig up an old post I made on another forum. I think I might have posted a shorter, more agreeable version on here too.







I should also take the time to point out that Mysterio/Rhodes at WrestleMania and Extreme Rules were tremendous matches that belong up there with Punk/Cena and Orton/Christian in terms of the best matches the WWE's had all year.
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I will agree with you that Rey Mysterio deserved more credit on this board. His time on Raw before the injury was one of his best stints working in a long time. Also, I will say this Randy Orton has been on fire since he moved to Smackdown with his work rate and his matches. Randy is up there with the Ziggler, Rhodes, Daniel Bryan and CM Punk with his work rate.

If you disagree I just hear Bryan Alvarez call him a great worker and for the last three monthes he has been on fire.
 
somedevil said:
I will agree with you that Rey Mysterio deserved more credit on this board. His time on Raw before the injury was one of his best stints working in a long time. Also, I will say this Randy Orton has been on fire since he moved to Smackdown with his work rate and his matches. Randy is up there with the Ziggler, Rhodes, Daniel Bryan and CM Punk with his work rate.

If you disagree I just hear Bryan Alvarez call him a great worker and for the last three monthes he has been on fire.
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Not to mention the annoying thing about his SD booking (borderline Cena invulnerability) is finished, he's now putting guys over when he should be.

Orton's done a total 180 from last year.
 
I'll gladly give Randy Orton props as well. He's been putting on consistently great matches since WrestleMania. One of my favourites of 2011, despite how genuinely heartbroken I was when he took the title off Christian.
 
Silly Obunga trying to get his revenge only to be put through a table...

When will he learn?

Oh...6-Man Tag match with Cena and Big Slow. -_-
 
lol @ Del Rio

so this is where they got the idea for the Air Boom shirt...

lol only wwe would put the all american american as a heel in front of a crowd of army guys
 
The 12/12 Slammy edition of Raw did a 2.84 rating for the three hour broadcast, averaging 4,109,000 viewers. Raw did hours of 2.55 at 8 p.m., 3.03 at 9 p.m. and 2.93 at 10 p.m.


Ouch. Comedy RAW time?
 
djsandman said:
The 12/12 Slammy edition of Raw did a 2.84 rating for the three hour broadcast, averaging 4,109,000 viewers. Raw did hours of 2.55 at 8 p.m., 3.03 at 9 p.m. and 2.93 at 10 p.m.


Ouch. Comedy RAW time?
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Wow, what were other people watching? That awful Seattle/St. Louis game, or Fear Factor?
 
wtf

the all american american AND the US title holder are both heels while a guy who turned on his country is the good guy in all of this?


mind blown
 
Slim Jims are greasy, but delicious in small quantities.

I prefer those delicious dry yet big beef sticks they sell at liquor stores in those jars.
 
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