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[Haly]

How about panels?

Panels are perfectly fine. Par example:

BAM! Kicking it up a notch.

Art: 8/10
Dialogue: 9/10
Atmosphere: 10/10
Mono no Aware: :firehawk/10

The main problem with rating individual arcs, chapters, panels, etc, is that you need to come up with a metric that is consistent for all examples of each of those things. Simply saying "I DIDN'T LIKE THIS SO I'M GOING TO GIVE IT AN F" is just the kind of stupid behavior that makes gaming side a cesspool.

 

[Big One]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

You just don't have the ability to comprehend information or opinions that don't comport with what you already believe. It's why you're an argumentative annoyance who is painful to converse with.

That isn't true at all whatsoever, I'm more than willing to accept opinions when they're well constructed like Squall ASF who tended to have negative opinion on One Piece but a lot of his points made sense and covered approximately everything it needed to cover, even if I disagree with him.

Saying that there should be a quality level for different demographics is, however, something I will not let by. It's just unacceptable and shameful. If you find it acceptable, then that's fine, but in no way it is and if it takes me having confirmation bias to install that belief in my head then I'm more than willing to accept that.

 

[Infinite Justice]

 

[gundamkyoukai]

One Piece
Nice set up chapter and i ready for a new arc .
I like Tashigi new look then again i like when women have long hair.


I already said a while back that giving a chapter a grade is stupid so i will stick by that .
Also it easy to do a write for a chapter but something people just lazy or nothing much happens in the chapter .
Side note the big 3 back and Big One ,Angry Grimace and Phoenician_Viking back at it again.
The manga thread is back lol .

 

[Angry Grimace]

That isn't true at all whatsoever, I'm more than willing to accept opinions when they're well constructed like Squall ASF who tended to have negative opinion on One Piece but a lot of his points made sense and covered approximately everything it needed to cover, even if I disagree with him.

Saying that there should be a quality level for different demographics is, however, something I will not let by. It's just unacceptable and shameful. If you find it acceptable, then that's fine, but in no way it is and if it takes me having confirmation bias to install that belief in my head then I'm more than willing to accept that.

Just so you know, I'm not interested at all in discussing your second paragraph, even if you continue to post it over and over. I don't agree with you, but I also don't care enough to feed into your internal need to argue since you don't listen to anything anyone says anyways unless it reinforces what you already believe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

 

[Wiseblade]

He won't comprehend the contradiction. He speaks a different form of English in which the least likely interpretation of anything he says is what he means so long as it turns out in his favor. He will just say they aren't contradictory because he actually meant it in some non-contradictory way, regardless of how likely that is.

Yep, that "most people agree" argument proved that BO is kind of delusional.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Saying that there should be a quality level for different demographics is, however, something I will not let by. It's just unacceptable and shameful. If you find it acceptable, then that's fine, but in no way it is and if it takes me having confirmation bias to install that belief in my head then I'm more than willing to accept that.

I haven't read this argument cause both of you just give me a headache, but who is arguing that different demographics ask for different levels of quality?

That reminds me of the mentality behind a lot of modern kid's movies, where the humour is as predictable and bland as possible because "Ah who cares, it's just for kids anyway!"

Honestly though, why do you guys always fight? You guys look like two tsundere characters trying to out-tsundere eachother.



/edit
Also If by different levels of quality different kinds of quality is meant, well yeah duhr, that's not even something one has to argue about.

Obviously you judge something made for kids differently than a violent horror porno somethingathing, doesn't mean either of them has permission to be of lowsy quality just because of what they are.

 

[Big One]

I haven't read this argument cause both of you just give me a headache, but who is arguing that different demographics ask for different levels of quality?

That reminds me of the mentality behind a lot of modern kid's movies, where the humour is as predictable and bland as possible because "Ah who cares, it's just for kids anyway!"

Angry Grimace is the one making the argument, so put that all on him

 

[Wiseblade]

I haven't read this argument cause both of you just give me a headache, but who is arguing that different demographics ask for different levels of quality?

That reminds me of the mentality behind a lot of modern kid's movies, where the humour is as predictable and bland as possible because "Ah who cares, it's just for kids anyway!"

Honestly though, why do you guys always fight? You guys look like two tsundere characters trying to out-tsundere eachother.

Also If by different levels of quality different kinds of quality is meant, well yeah duhr, that's not even something one has to argue about.

Well, the only reason I respond to him is because sometimes its funny to see what kind of crazy response he'll come out with to end up "right". Much better than that other guy who is always just annoying.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Angry Grimace is the one making the argument, so put that all on him

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Actually, what I said was

In any case, I laughed a little at trying to couch giving grades to children's comic books as some kind of scientific method as opposed to nitpicky-bitching.

I was criticizing the fact that you're acting like there's some grand scientific method to putting grades on Naruto chapters as opposed to just whining about how not enough happened.

Then again, you didn't comprehend that because it didn't support something you already wanted to argue about. I feel confident in predicting you still don't even get you just made that up, either.

 

[Big One]

Also If by different levels of quality different kinds of quality is meant, well yeah duhr, that's not even something one has to argue about.

Obviously you judge something made for kids differently than a violent horror porno somethingathing, doesn't mean either of them has permission to be of lowsy quality just because of what they are.

There is definitely a different attitude in how you approach it cause demographics tend to try to do different things. Like if I were to judge a learning program for children, obviously I'd be focusing on the quality of what it's trying to do rather than what it is (however to be fair I never done that before). I feel the same way about anything else which is why I rank Death Note pretty low in comparison to other mystery genre works.

I was criticizing the fact that you're acting like there's some grand scientific method to putting grades on Naruto chapters as opposed to just whining about how not enough happened.

I'm perfectly aware of that, which is why I'm so set against this. It isn't even opinion-based that this statement it's wrong, it's factually wrong. To say that there isn't a method on judging Naruto is just a straight up false statement and ignores the fact that Naruto is still a narrative and still has the same elements that any literature, movie, comic, piece of entertainment does when telling a story. Therefor, there is a "grand scientific method" in judging Naruto.

 

[Guesong]

I'm kind of sad about Bleach.

IMHO, the arc had great, great, great potential starting at the chapter where everyone close to Ichigo got facebooked and that only he and Ginjou were sane, so to speak.

Would have been so much better as a story arc if it had stayed that way and that Ginjou was a real ally and not pulling some Aizenery.

Wonder how much ratings had to do with Kubo's decision to make Ginjou a stupid villain as to bring back all of Soul Society.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I'm kind of sad about Bleach.

IMHO, the arc had great, great, great potential starting at the chapter where everyone close to Ichigo got facebooked and that only he and Ginjou were sane, so to speak.

Would have been so much better as a story arc if it had stayed that way and that Ginjou was a real ally and not pulling some Aizenery.

Wonder how much ratings had to do with Kubo's decision to make Ginjou a stupid villain as to bring back all of Soul Society.

It seems now like the entire arc was a contrivance to get Ichigo's powers back. It was not a very good twist in my opinion either, since it just involved some shinigami shooting him with reiatsu (which itself is largely the same plot device used to give Ishida his powers back after the Soul Society arc).

It would have been a lot better if he somehow absorbed Ginjo's shinigami powers after they fought to get them back.

 

[Wiseblade]

Anyway, moving on to fulfilling my New years resolution to talk about One Piece even more than last year...

I've finally bought my way into the Enies Lobby arc, and I don't think I ever really realised that the whole thing is supposed to be taking place overnight on an island of perpetual daytime. That kind of makes everything a little cooler. It's also interesting to just how much faster paced everything is in this arc compared to the anime.

 

[Infinite Justice]

It seems now like the entire arc was a contrivance to get Ichigo's powers back. It was not a very good twist in my opinion either, since it just involved some shinigami shooting him with reiatsu (which itself is largely the same plot device used to give Ishida his powers back after the Soul Society arc).

It would have been a lot better if he somehow absorbed Ginjo's shinigami powers after they fought to get them back.

Basically and also trivialized the "alternate" method he was going with at one point.

 

[Kave_Man]

One Piece

I like how showing Pekoms bounty is probably a nice way to set up the Strawhats having to take down lower ranks of Big Mom's crew until they get to her.

Bleach

A decent close, who the hell is Kensei? I go in and out with Bleach so I'm sure I probably missed when he showed up the first time.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Seriously, why does Ginjou have a corpse in Soul Society?

 

[Infinite Justice]

One Piece

I like how showing Pekoms bounty is probably a nice way to set up the Strawhats having to take down lower ranks of Big Mom's crew until they get to her.

Bleach

A decent close, who the hell is Kensei? I go in and out with Bleach so I'm sure I probably missed when he showed up the first time.

He's one of the Vizards (a group of people with powers of an Hollow, which they focus via masks. They also trained Ichigo to do the same)

Spoiler

and was revealed to once have been a Shinigami (along with the other members) who got caught up in Aizen's experiment.

 

[El Sloth]

Seriously, why does Ginjou have a corpse in Soul Society?

Soul Corpse?

 

[Lain]

Mardock Scramble vol 4

Good, good, good. Ah, how I love some crazy action, with a madman ending in "Heaven", finding the corpses of people that just don't move anymore (they're still alive) and starting to chop off all their fingers for his collection.
I'm rather fond of Balot. From an underage prostitute chained inside her own shell to protect herself, she's matured a lot.
Her love story with the mouse can't end well though.

Say I Love You vol 7

Poor Yamato won't be getting into Mei's panties anytime soon, though it's nice to see how they keep getting closer building that relationship.
Volume had a resolution about Megumi, both about her "maturing" a bit and not being the fake, childish person she was before, and what comes after. I really appreciated Asami helping in her own way, because of what she's been through and what she still goes through.
People are shitty, but that's nothing new. What matters is to have some friends you can relate to and spend your rime happily with, and to hell with all those assholes.

Mar vol 12

Snow, no! Diana is such a bitch. Ginta's match with Gin was cool, for a moment I thought he could actually risk to lose because of his emotions, but it was basically a battle of emotions.

--

I need to read Steel Ball run vol 23, but I'm actually thinking of saving that until 24 is published, which happens next month.

 

[Glass Rebel]

He's one of the Vizards (a group of people with powers of an Hollow, which they focus via masks. They also trained Ichigo to do the same)

Spoiler

and was revealed to once have been a Shinigami (along with the other members) who got caught up in Aizen's experiment.

Oh, he's the one with the knife, right?

 

[Stat Flow]

One Piece: B+

Great great setup chapter. No surprise that Luffy don't give any fucks about a Big Mom. I love that Oda still gives us big bounty numbers, I'm looking forward to what other numbers we'll see for some big people.

Let's get to the new world; and I think this is a good catalyst to have Jinbe join the crew, because him just going from this Fishman debacle wasn't substantial enough. Good, no great, stuff.

Bleach: C

This arc amounted to nothing. Fuck that. Oh well. I think what we got were a couple of good moments and a couple of great moments, and I think that Kubo and the readers were ready to get it over with. I am most intrigued by what this next arc could be. Sucks that there is a three week break but any weekly mangaka deserves one. Let's see where this goes, I think that now that this Fullbring arc is over, we should start seeing some great shit.

Oh, and one (and only) thing I really loved about this chapter in particular was that we saw Kensei and SHINJI in captain gear. Not only does it really make sense considering the vacant positions, but it is nice considering what SS did to them in the first place. SHINJI is so boss.

Naruto: D+

Well. Whatever. Flashback, uh...Oh, Sage mode! The last panel was the only good panel in that entire chapter. I think that Fake Madara is the worst villain ever.

Hunter X Hunter: C+

The election is "downright boring". RIP Aizen 2.

 

[MCD]

Three weeks break for Bleach is way too much.

And did that girl commit suicide? Didn't expect that in Bleach.

 

[Solune]

I'm sorry, I can't see your post under this mountain of Bleach merchandise, most of which I'm selling on Ebay for $$$$$.

You bought it all for $6, didn't you?

 

[Haly]

Seriously, why does Ginjou have a corpse in Soul Society?

Sayuri is going to violate dissect it.

You bought it all for $6, didn't you?

It was in the bargain bin!

 

[Infinite Justice]

Oh, he's the one with the knife, right?

Yep.

 

[TommyT]

Toriko

Looks like we'll get to see some hot action between Ichyru (sp?) and the Bishokukai (sp again?!) soon.

 

[Freshmaker]

He won't comprehend the contradiction. He speaks a different form of English in which the least likely interpretation of anything he says is what he means so long as it turns out in his favor. He will just say they aren't contradictory because he actually meant it in some non-contradictory way, regardless of how likely that is.

I posted on Usenet. I don't bother trying to convince anyone that they're wrong.

I content myself with letting the readers draw their own conclusions.

Oh, he's the one with the knife, right?

Yep. In addition, his belly tattoo was what inspired *69's facial art.

 

[Jubs]

Bleach

Who are these new captains replacing? I'm having difficulty remembering past events and faces in this manga.

 

[Stealth Editor]

I really wish he would simply reveal the world highest bounty (Dragon most likely, 1 billion?) to put all the other in perspective.

 

[Kusagari]

I really wish he would simply reveal the world highest bounty (Dragon most likely, 1 billion?) to put all the other in perspective.

It's annoying he never revealed Whitebeard, Ace or Marco's.

 

[Haly]

Bleach

Who are these new captains replacing? I'm having difficulty remembering past events and faces in this manga.

Aizen, Gin (not sure if he's still a captain or not honestly), Tousen.

 

[Freshmaker]

It's annoying he never revealed Whitebeard, Ace or Marco's.

I wonder if they even bothered with White Beard. Nobody could touch him, and antagonizing him wasn't a good idea anyway...

 

[Infinite Justice]

Bleach

Who are these new captains replacing? I'm having difficulty remembering past events and faces in this manga.

Aizen, Gin and Tousen since they defected from Soul Society.

These guys basically got their old jobs back since they were the Captains of these divisions before.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Seriously, why does Ginjou have a corpse in Soul Society?

I think they took it with them for some god-forsaken reason. I don't even know why.

 

[Zoramon089]

Bleach

Serious question. Does Kubo actually think those short flashbacks actually made up sympathetic towards the fullbringers? He keeps trying to push this idea that they're sad characters and that we should care but he's done nothing to make us feel that way. The fact that he devoted a whole chapter to Ichigo going to SS to get Ginjou's body...really? Are we supposed to see him as some fallen hero or something? Why does Ichigo himself even care?

 

[VivaZapata]

Bleach

Serious question. Does Kubo actually think those short flashbacks actually made up sympathetic towards the fullbringers? He keeps trying to push this idea that they're sad characters and that we should care but he's done nothing to make us feel that way. The fact that he devoted a whole chapter to Ichigo going to SS to get Ginjou's body...really? Are we supposed to see him as some fallen hero or something? Why does Ichigo himself even care?

Ichigo cares because soul soceity is run by dip shits.Ginjo wasnt an ego maniac until he realized that soul socety had tabs on him and were planning to kill him anyways.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

One Piece 652

Ignoring the Jinbei still considering joining Luffys crew (unappealing character design joining the ranks of the powerful trio is just baffling), having Smoker back is phenomenal news. One of the cool antagonist and his sidekick back in the plot is great. A swordsman fight has got to be coming up, meaning, we would get to see another epic move from Zoro. A Luffy v Smoker fight would finally make some progress, if I recall Luffy had to resort to having Boa defend him in Marineford. Oh well, great chapter.

Doushitemo Furetakunai

At times pretty emotional and hilarious but glad Shima ended up happy in the end. Should have ran for more than just one volume.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Bleach

Serious question. Does Kubo actually think those short flashbacks actually made up sympathetic towards the fullbringers? He keeps trying to push this idea that they're sad characters and that we should care but he's done nothing to make us feel that way. The fact that he devoted a whole chapter to Ichigo going to SS to get Ginjou's body...really? Are we supposed to see him as some fallen hero or something? Why does Ichigo himself even care?

I think he's aware that people will just complain if he spends any time at all building a storyline up for them for one; moreover, they're already dead/on the verge of death, which makes it awkward, but that's a fairly common manga trope.

It's a catch: he couldn't have put Ginjo's storyline before the arc (for more than one reason), but you don't care by the end and just want it over with. It only really works when you're doing a long term villain, not with short term villains.

 

[Stat Flow]

Oh, and I forgot to mention: FUCK YEAH SMOKER IS BACK (for now). And I really like Tashigi as well, so her appearance was nice too.

 

[Articalys]

Sales rankings for Jan. 2-8

*1, 343,178 *,343,178 Bakuman vol.16
*2, 247,359 *,247,359 Natsume Yuujinchou vol.13
*3, 234,799 *,234,799 Katekyo Hitman Reborn! vol.37
*4, 223,590 *,223,590 New Prince of Tennis vol.7
*5, 139,110 *,139,110 Worst vol.28
*6, 118,178 *,469,708 Kuroshitsuji vol.13
*7, *83,769 *,*83,769 Initial D vol.44
*8, *66,780 *,*66,780 Prince of After School vol.2
*9, *50,999 *,189,277 Suki desu Suzuki-kun!! vol.14
10, *44,919 *,394,876 Thermae Romae vol.4

11, *44,215 *,*44,215Kagami no Kuni no Harisugawa vol.1
12, *39,958 *,245,172 Ao Haru Ride vol.3
13, *37,756 *,446,089 Fairy Tail vol.30
14, *31,242 *,104,106 Bokutachi wa Shitte Shimatta vol.13
15, *28,977 2,943,833 One Piece vol.64
16, *28,427 *,613,407 Shingeki no Kyojin vol.6
17, *27,895 *,*27,895 Yashio to Mikumo vol.4
18, *26,766 *,*76,070 Himitsu vol.10
19, *26,115 *,*26,115 Last Game vol.1
20, *25,783 *,163,593 Inu x Boku SS vol.6

21, *25,750 *,465,038 Detective Conan vol.74
22, *25,480 *,113,260 Tomehane! vol.9
23, *25,127 *,197,519 Uchuu Kyoudai vol.16
24, *24,397 *,312,724 Toaru Kagaku no Railgun vol.7
25, *22,947 *,*22,947 Shinryaku! Ika Musume vol.11
26, *21,524 *,*83,823 Himitsu No Ai-Chan vol.6
27, *19,657 *,*76,263 Kaze Hikaru vol.31
28, *19,422 *,307,673 Gin no Saji vol.2
29, *19,004 *,103,503 Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou vol.5
30, *18,953 *,*18,953 Aku no Hana vol.5

 

[Dresden]

15, *28,977 2,943,833 One Piece vol.64

GODA

 

[Haly]

Even Japan agrees, Fishman was shit.

 

[Stat Flow]

I'm sure Oda buys 2 million volumes himself to inflate the numbers. He can afford it now.

 

[Anteater]

Even Japan agrees, Fishman was shit.

Is 2.9million a bad number or something?

 

[Haly]

How much of that money does he get?

Buy your own copies with the money you paid to yourself.

INFINITE SALES.

Is 2.9million a bad number or something?

I only looked at the sale ranking, not the 2 mirrion.

 

[Anteater]

How much of that money does he get?

Buy your own copies with the money you paid to yourself.

INFINITE SALES.

I only looked at the sale ranking, not the 2 mirrion.

oh, I thought the volume has been out for a while though

 

[Kave_Man]

It's annoying he never revealed Whitebeard, Ace or Marco's.

I wonder if they even bothered with White Beard. Nobody could touch him, and antagonizing him wasn't a good idea anyway...

I like to think that some of the top pirates in the world (yonkou) they don't even bother with a bounty once they establish themselves as nobody can mess with them anyways.

 

[Ezalc]

I love the Aria nods in Amanchu.

Spoiler

Hi mangaGAF.

 

[Jharp]

I need to read some good horror shit.