Raise the flame shield: Your "controversial" gaming opinion.
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The DS wasn't a good system, it was an excellent one. Can't you read?
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
How have you not been permabanned yet???
iconoclast
Member
To expand on this, I'd say that all of the SMT games that have demon negotiation are boring as hell. Yeah, it might be mildly amusing to see what cuhraaaazy and totally randum (or in other words, completely irrelevant) thing this demon is going to say next, but it's a real nuisance to put up with that crap every time you want to pick up a new demon for fusion or whatever. It just slows the pacing of the game to an absolute crawl, as if they weren't slow enough already.
AND Persona games are even worse because they're only half game/half dating sim. Persona 3 is unplayable.
faceless007
Member
Dungeon crawlers like Diablo and Torchlight are mindless click-fest garbage.
Are you talking shit about my japanese high school waifu simulator?
Chinpoko_Master
Member
I want to post my controversial gaming opinion, but it's basically a bunch of games that I think are overrated. I don't really think that's very controversial.
I think he was only referring to Nintendo's home consoles.
More talking shit on myself for playing it 30 hours thinking "OK when is the next dungeon"
Social sim shit + one dungeon the whole game was enough for me to quit and hate the game for all of eternity.
No, it's cool. I like the game, but totally get why people don't. For me, my favorite part of an RPG is character interaction so the Persona games are basically tailored specifically to my tastes.
Majora's Mask is the worst Zelda ever (well, not taking into account the CDI abortions). It's a shameless copy&paste from OoT with just bad design and execution. And very poor dungeons.
The new wave of Capcom fighting games is an heresy to the glorious 2D past of the company.
Resident Evil was already archaic back in 1996. To create a classic RE nowadays would be...like trying to compete against a F1 with a Ford T, I guess?. And the Onimusha series is the most overrated of all time. Hack'n slash games with semi-fixed cameras and tank controls? What the hell?
Uncharted is a snore fest. They forgot to add the gameplay. There's nothing great about the plot or the characters, the script is just adventure movie-average.
Bioware went downhill after BG2, but people didn't awake from the dream till DA2 it seems. Games like Jade Empire were already very poor in many ways.
Chrono Trigger is really great. But Chrono Cross is even better.
Little Big Planet 2 is fantastic. Attach a Nintendo logo to it and people would say "it's one of the best games of all times".
The best about Metal Gear Solid series is the gameplay from MGS3 Subsistence and Peace Walker; they're fun and well designed. The atmosphere in MGS3 is great, too. But the plot is awful, B-movie at best. I skip all the cutscenes. In terms of plot, both Snatcher and Policenauts are much better than MGS.
The "interactive" games trend should die. Gaming journalism smashed to the ground those CGI-snore fests from the Sega CD and PC back in the early 90s, why are they coming back and getting good scores is beyond me, they're the same bullshit but with higher production values. So this means Heavy Rain-like games and heavily scripted games like CoD or Uncharted need to die too.
Fact: Arcade games from 1980 to 2000s are the true golden age. Arcade-style design and gameplay is superior to everything else.
Fact: 2D graphics are superior to polygons and they age flawlessly, like good wine. And everyone has bad taste because no one bought Rayman Origins.
Fact: ZOE2 and Vanquish are the best 3D action games ever made, not counting hack'n slash ones like DMC or Ninja Gaiden Black.
Fact: Old school shooters like Doom or Quake are much better than current ones like Crysis or Battlefield.
Fact: The S.T.A.L.K.E.R series is a jewel amidst metric tons of mediocrity, much better than any other recent Western-developed shooter.
Fact: Games must not try to be like movies or anything else. Games are games to begin with. The inherent artistic value of videogames lies within the gameplay. Gameplay and design are the true art and not anything else.
/runs to a nuclear shelter
The new wave of Capcom fighting games is an heresy to the glorious 2D past of the company.
Resident Evil was already archaic back in 1996. To create a classic RE nowadays would be...like trying to compete against a F1 with a Ford T, I guess?. And the Onimusha series is the most overrated of all time. Hack'n slash games with semi-fixed cameras and tank controls? What the hell?
Uncharted is a snore fest. They forgot to add the gameplay. There's nothing great about the plot or the characters, the script is just adventure movie-average.
Bioware went downhill after BG2, but people didn't awake from the dream till DA2 it seems. Games like Jade Empire were already very poor in many ways.
Chrono Trigger is really great. But Chrono Cross is even better.
Little Big Planet 2 is fantastic. Attach a Nintendo logo to it and people would say "it's one of the best games of all times".
The best about Metal Gear Solid series is the gameplay from MGS3 Subsistence and Peace Walker; they're fun and well designed. The atmosphere in MGS3 is great, too. But the plot is awful, B-movie at best. I skip all the cutscenes. In terms of plot, both Snatcher and Policenauts are much better than MGS.
The "interactive" games trend should die. Gaming journalism smashed to the ground those CGI-snore fests from the Sega CD and PC back in the early 90s, why are they coming back and getting good scores is beyond me, they're the same bullshit but with higher production values. So this means Heavy Rain-like games and heavily scripted games like CoD or Uncharted need to die too.
Fact: Arcade games from 1980 to 2000s are the true golden age. Arcade-style design and gameplay is superior to everything else.
Fact: 2D graphics are superior to polygons and they age flawlessly, like good wine. And everyone has bad taste because no one bought Rayman Origins.
Fact: ZOE2 and Vanquish are the best 3D action games ever made, not counting hack'n slash ones like DMC or Ninja Gaiden Black.
Fact: Old school shooters like Doom or Quake are much better than current ones like Crysis or Battlefield.
Fact: The S.T.A.L.K.E.R series is a jewel amidst metric tons of mediocrity, much better than any other recent Western-developed shooter.
Fact: Games must not try to be like movies or anything else. Games are games to begin with. The inherent artistic value of videogames lies within the gameplay. Gameplay and design are the true art and not anything else.
/runs to a nuclear shelter
FFVIII is the best FF game I've played (which includes VII)
FFVII is completely overrated and it's time that Sephiroth, Cloud etc. just went away
LoZ: The Wind Waker was a let down after being promised at what the GC could do for Zelda, graphically
Phantom Hourglass had a decent story, but re-using the same dungeon was poorly executed
Cel graphics aren't as great as people make them out to be. If I want cartoons, I watch cartoons. If I want to slice up some monsters and go dungeon exploring I feel better if there is a touch more realism in there (granted, monsters aren't real, but they could make them look a little more frightening instead of something that'll look at home on a cereal box)
Music in video games is often highly under-appreciated by more "casual" players who seem to think that it's merely graphics that make a good game
Back in my day we paid good money for working games. These days people are sold broken software for their consoles and are happy to pay out a lot of money for them even when patches for widely occurring problems never seem to be rushed out (oldmanandcloud.jpg)
Sonic 3 & Knuckles is the pinnacle of a Sonic game and anything brought out before or after cannot even touch it. This includes the highly revered Sonic 2.
FFVII is completely overrated and it's time that Sephiroth, Cloud etc. just went away
LoZ: The Wind Waker was a let down after being promised at what the GC could do for Zelda, graphically
Phantom Hourglass had a decent story, but re-using the same dungeon was poorly executed
Cel graphics aren't as great as people make them out to be. If I want cartoons, I watch cartoons. If I want to slice up some monsters and go dungeon exploring I feel better if there is a touch more realism in there (granted, monsters aren't real, but they could make them look a little more frightening instead of something that'll look at home on a cereal box)
Music in video games is often highly under-appreciated by more "casual" players who seem to think that it's merely graphics that make a good game
Back in my day we paid good money for working games. These days people are sold broken software for their consoles and are happy to pay out a lot of money for them even when patches for widely occurring problems never seem to be rushed out (oldmanandcloud.jpg)
Sonic 3 & Knuckles is the pinnacle of a Sonic game and anything brought out before or after cannot even touch it. This includes the highly revered Sonic 2.
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
What would this make Catherine?
I wonder if people just post in this thread so they can say things that would be bannable if they were posted in other threads. Also, a lot of people in here have such strong opinions on so many games, companies and genres that I'm surprised they still enjoy playing videogames.
redfiend00
Member
You sir are correct
A puzzle game?
Etrian Oddity
Member
- Zero Mission has the best 2d Metroid engine, not Super Metroid
- Can't stand Wind Waker's Powerpuff Girl character design
- Final Fantasy 13's battle system is absolute shit
- Dante was always lame, he was never a badass in the first place
- Kratos is a terrible twat of a protagonist who brought everything on himself
- Metroid Prime is better than Super Metroid
- The best thing about Super Smash Bros Brawl was its soundtrack
- No More Heroes was the best game of 2008
- No More Heroes 2 was a terrible game and was inferior in every way (especially gameplay) to the original)
- Mega Man Zero series > every other Mega Man series
- Command and Conquer > all other RTSes
- Dual Shock is one of the worst and uncomfortable controllers ever (original XBox big controller was more comfortable)
I think I'm done making enemies for now.
(Not serious)
(Serious opininons)
- Nitendos for kids
- Apple sucks
- Playstation copy's
- Microsoft just cares about the money
- Nintendo has terrible online
- Every popular non indie game is overated
(Serious opininons)
- Shooters are overated
- Zombies in games are overated
- Most people play games today not because it looks interesting but because it's popular
- Playstations online (in some ways) is worse then the online on the Wii
- Too many games today aren't creative
Nintendo Wii - An entire generation of Nintendo games I don't want to play because I can't control them accurately. Quite possible ruined the industry, but i'm still waiting to see how the WiiU will affect the next generation.
Nintendo DS and all it's children
Any control method for any game that requires movement, waggle, or touch; and does not come with a straight up option to use more traditional and tested controls. FLOWER I'M LOOKING AT YOU.
And to a lesser extent
Achievements, Trophies - I think they have an honest value, but not in getting one for picking up the health box or whatever in hell. Maybe in short, get rid of bronze and maybe silver trophies, only platinum/gold should exist.
Modern Warfare/call of duty/battlefields every year all years - Ruining gaming every single time one of these comes out by shifting the market back into their dudebro ditches. These are games that would probably be a lot better if they were a lot rarer.
Capcom - They just don't have it anymore, and they have no more games I'd ever want to play, nor do they have any intention of making any. The day they announced that there would be no development of a new Breath of Fire is the day i died a little inside.
Chrono Trigger - Ridiculously Lovely game, but i would never call it the best RPG ever.
I think Final Fantasy 13 was a fine game and I don't regret buying it at $60 day 1 at all. I think FF9 is the weakest of the more modern FF games, and 11 is one of the better games of the last decade that people will never get into or play.
And this is hardly controversial but I really wish Gust/N1/etc would stop releasing visual novels with minigames and calling them rpgs. Hyperdimension Neptunia getting a sequel is a travesty, I'd rather they get their acts together and make a game with some more quality to it. What's worse is that, while the stories in their games are usually good and the characters fun, I just don't want to play them because most of the time i'm watching cardboard cutouts talk to each other instead of running around a town or even watching a cutscene. If the first thing I think about a game is 'I'd rather be watching a cutscene' something is wrong
Nintendo DS and all it's children
Any control method for any game that requires movement, waggle, or touch; and does not come with a straight up option to use more traditional and tested controls. FLOWER I'M LOOKING AT YOU.
And to a lesser extent
Achievements, Trophies - I think they have an honest value, but not in getting one for picking up the health box or whatever in hell. Maybe in short, get rid of bronze and maybe silver trophies, only platinum/gold should exist.
Modern Warfare/call of duty/battlefields every year all years - Ruining gaming every single time one of these comes out by shifting the market back into their dudebro ditches. These are games that would probably be a lot better if they were a lot rarer.
Capcom - They just don't have it anymore, and they have no more games I'd ever want to play, nor do they have any intention of making any. The day they announced that there would be no development of a new Breath of Fire is the day i died a little inside.
Chrono Trigger - Ridiculously Lovely game, but i would never call it the best RPG ever.
I think Final Fantasy 13 was a fine game and I don't regret buying it at $60 day 1 at all. I think FF9 is the weakest of the more modern FF games, and 11 is one of the better games of the last decade that people will never get into or play.
And this is hardly controversial but I really wish Gust/N1/etc would stop releasing visual novels with minigames and calling them rpgs. Hyperdimension Neptunia getting a sequel is a travesty, I'd rather they get their acts together and make a game with some more quality to it. What's worse is that, while the stories in their games are usually good and the characters fun, I just don't want to play them because most of the time i'm watching cardboard cutouts talk to each other instead of running around a town or even watching a cutscene. If the first thing I think about a game is 'I'd rather be watching a cutscene' something is wrong
entremet
Member
How are opinions bannable? At least regarding gaming?
You're right. It's just that some opinions are posed as facts. And some opinions are pretty harsh. Let's just say I'm happy I'm not a Pokemon-fan
I think he he means the super exaggerated/hyperbole ones. Some of the ones claiming so and so game is the worst game ever are huge leaps of logic/believability.
Someone said adults who play Pokémon are pedophiles.
olore
Member
RE4 isn`t the end-all, be-all that some hype it up to be. The waggle shooting mechanic is cute but controlwise it`s a disaster. I would much rather play this with a keyboard and mice seven days out of seven.
Also, there´s something vaguely metrosexual about the whole thing. Leon looks like Val Kilmer in TopGun, you just kinda expect to see Tom Cruise wander in during a shootout in his tighty whiteys offering support.
It`s childish and meant for the lowest denominator, sex sells. Did Isay that the shooting mechanic was good? That`s all.
Also, there´s something vaguely metrosexual about the whole thing. Leon looks like Val Kilmer in TopGun, you just kinda expect to see Tom Cruise wander in during a shootout in his tighty whiteys offering support.
It`s childish and meant for the lowest denominator, sex sells. Did Isay that the shooting mechanic was good? That`s all.
Yeah this. To me, this is only controversial in being extreme offensive. Of course that's kind of the point of this thread, saying "controversial" stuff that would be inappropriate in any other thread. Still, it's kind of too much imo. Maybe I'm just easily offended or something.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
I like turn based RPG battle systems more than real time battle systems. Like a lot!
Only exception is the Star Ocean battle system which is more of hybrid.
Dark Souls and Skyrim can suck it! All hail Xenogears, Final Fantasy pre XII, Suikoden, and so many more!
*hides*
Only exception is the Star Ocean battle system which is more of hybrid.
Dark Souls and Skyrim can suck it! All hail Xenogears, Final Fantasy pre XII, Suikoden, and so many more!
*hides*
Mortrialus
Banned
This. This right here.
I think Kratos is such an awful protagonist that he literally sucks all of the fun out of all of the God of War games.
The FPS genre in general is extremely difficult to do well compared to other genres and most of them suck, even without the oversaturation.
Dark Souls is the greatest game ever made by a human.
In another thread, a lot of these posts would be considered trolling or trashing-up a thread.. but considering the purpose and context of this particular thread, these posts are appropriately placed.
I know one thing.. I've read every single post here, and I'm impressed at how thick my skin has gotten from hanging-around NeoGAF for these years. Some time ago, this stiff would've irked me to no end.
Online multiplayer turned Gaming into a macho fest.
Guns are boring and I hate how american players love them, especially after I was raised in a country with internal conflict, guns are not awesome when they've killed many loved ones. It's not that they shouldn't be there (man I LOVE GTA) but making them the end of it all and with every "AAA" game turning about them (and killing.. in a brutal gory "awesome" way) makes me sick.. and sad.
Guns are boring and I hate how american players love them, especially after I was raised in a country with internal conflict, guns are not awesome when they've killed many loved ones. It's not that they shouldn't be there (man I LOVE GTA) but making them the end of it all and with every "AAA" game turning about them (and killing.. in a brutal gory "awesome" way) makes me sick.. and sad.
Haha what the fuck?
Rahxephon91
Banned
WTF is this?
Yes.
SF4: So damn inferior to SF3 it's not even close
MvC3: hahahahahahahaha
DMC4: Worse than DMC2. How the fuck?
RE5: Complete trainwreck. Thankfully we got RE4 and CV HD because they know their previous gen games are so much better
SFxT: Looks like it could be good, but this gem system shit with retailer exclusive gems and DLC gems is just beyond scummy
Onimusha: WHERE ARE YOU?
Darkstalkers: WHERE ARE YOU?
Megaman: RIP
Monster Hunter: Why isn't there one on PS360? Why does the newer one on 3DS not have online play? CAPCOMMMMMMMMM
butter_stick
Banned
It's definitely not the god-tier bullshit everyone makes it out to be. The beautiful soundtrack and fun battles are almost enough to distract me from the bland as fuck visuals, boring characters and snore-worthy story for the first few hours.
I'm sure it's a great game once you get into it but I'm so tired of hearing that it's the second coming.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
In the DOTA2 beta.... Yet I play LoL everyday still instead...
Rahxephon91
Banned
Xenoblade is going to receive a fair share of hype backlash on GAF I bet. Espiscialy since the audience buying it is probably very vocal.
I don't care though. The game is god tier.
I don't care though. The game is god tier.
Wolves Evolve
Member
The iPhone is the premier platform for core gaming experiences and has been for about 18 months.
And where's Ace Attorney Investigations 2? Fucking Capcom...
By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if MH3G 3DS gets online in the western territory. For some reason, MH's online was never important in Japan. It's a different case here... but who knows, it's Capcom. :/
Local play is huge in Japan and people don't really play online games there anyway.
We've entered trolling grounds now.
entremet
Member
Oh okay. Haven't read the whole thread. Sounds more like hyperbole to me.
FateBreaker
Member
Well, there are reasons sometimes, but I agree they get way too much shit here.
Yeah, I suppose I should revise that. Bioware deserves no more shit than any other gaming company.
AlphaDragoon
Member
While I don't agree that it's the worst (Japanese FFII with Firion and the gang has that honor IMO), it sure the hell isn't the best if you ask me. I like the way you think.
I like the way you think too. Not to mention Xenosaga II had actual gameplay and a bunch of post game content, unlike that garbage Ep. I. It was a real game and not a giant cutscene. The only problem with the Ep. II battle system was that as said, on normal enemies it could cause fights to take too long at times.