Curleh Mustache Tournament Series 2 - UMvC3 Invitational

And now they want her patched so she can't build meter during Astral Vision mode... Do they not realize how bad an idea that is? :T
 
enzo_gt said:
I agree, Morrigan shouldn't be able to build meter during that and perpetually throw that shit out. Putting you in a situation that is that much less counterable than anything else is just silly.

Also make Ryu's Denjin mode last 4x as long, kthx.
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suggest nerfing "low tier" characters?

who are you, noel brown.

can't believe enzo would succumb to the hive-mind.
 
enzo_gt said:
I agree, Morrigan shouldn't be able to build meter during that and perpetually throw that shit out. Putting you in a situation that is that much less counterable than anything else is just silly.

Also make Ryu's Denjin mode last 4x as long, kthx.
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Also give him his Akuma/Ken transformations plz

Kinda serious
 
ChrisG has been using Morrigan like that for at least a month now.
Not surprising, just blow up Doom or switch to something than can go through that.
 
enzo_gt said:
I agree, Morrigan shouldn't be able to build meter during that and perpetually throw that shit out. Putting you in a situation that is that much less counterable than anything else is just silly.

Also make Ryu's Denjin mode last 4x as long, kthx.
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this plz
 
El Sloth said:
WUT

Why is that not hitting Morrigan?
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Dante's cr.L has no hitbox on the gun, so some characters will be able to stand inside/over it.

SolarPowered said:
Stream chat is ass right now. She finally becomes good and people actually call for patches when something like ten characters were worse in Vanilla.

wtf...
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She was the same in vanilla, just no one played her properly. Everyone was in the mindset that if you couldn't put someone in a hundred mixups, they were ass. I played a number of Morrigans in vanilla that did the fireball spam, but no 'pros' realized that that's how she was supposed to be played. *shrug*

I guess she did improve a bit thanks to the lack of blocking during airdash, as well as someone like Wolverine losing his invincibility.
 
I don't think people are mad that she's good now. They're mad because she sucks out all of the hype of these matches.
 
I wouldn't call for a nerf. There is plenty retarded shit in this game, aside from that. Meter-less TOD with Dante being high up on the list, as well as Zero's everything. They need to nerf Chris G's airgrabs. Wtf. Mystic grabs.
 
SolarPowered said:
Stream chat is ass right now. She finally becomes good and people actually call for patches when something like ten characters were worse in Vanilla.

wtf...
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I don't mind Morrigan, it's a refreshing change of pace from the stupid rushdown heavy game marvel has become. Any kind of zoning that can beat fucking teleports and divekicks is fine in my book.
 
enzo_gt said:
I agree, Morrigan shouldn't be able to build meter during that and perpetually throw that shit out. Putting you in a situation that is that much less counterable than anything else is just silly.

Also make Ryu's Denjin mode last 4x as long, kthx.
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Please let this be sarcasm.
Duxxy3 said:
I don't think people are mad that she's good now. They're mad because she sucks out all of the hype of these matches.
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I get hyped as fuck when I see her shutting down Wesker, Wesker and other cheap ass characters. People need to learn how to block.
 
Yea, that Morrigan spam is hype. It's like one of those timers you have to beat a mission in DMC secret missions. Kill off the enemy in 10-15 seconds or lose the match entirely.
 
El Sloth said:
This. Jesus, let her stew for a bit. She's most definitely not unbeatable.
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I am in favour of a stew, but that shit is fundamentally broken I say. Also, Morrigan doesn't immediately become ass if you take that away. I put Morrigan in A tier ATM anyways because of the spam. She is nowhere close to low tier, you'd be a fool if you think so. Tournament results prove it too.
 
Ogrekiller said:
I don't mind Morrigan, it's a refreshing change of pace from the stupid rushdown heavy game marvel has become. Any kind of zoning that can beat fucking teleports and divekicks is fine in my book.
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Fucking this right here.

Everyone and their mother was complaining about divekick hitboxes, 15 second hard knockdown j.S phut dive and like ten thousand teleporters. They get a solution and they bitch.
enzo_gt said:
I am in favour of a stew, but that shit is fundamentally broken I say. Also, Morrigan doesn't immediately become ass if you take that away. I put Morrigan in A tier ATM anyways because of the spam. She is nowhere close to low tier, you'd be a fool if you think so. Tournament results prove it too.
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Block and watch her meter gain/damage fall to the wayside. Move your way in afterwards and bring the pain.
 
ChrisG just needs to stick with his Morrigan team. He's waaaay better with it than his 'main' team.

Also, I laugh at everyone who complains about zoning. It's not unbeatable.
 
SolarPowered said:
Fucking this right here.

Everyone and their mother was complaining about divekick hitboxes, 15 second hard knockdown j.S phut dive and like ten thousand teleporters. They get a solution and they bitch.
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The fact that Morrigan, a hot ass succubi can do it instead of that pansy hawkeye or that fraud rushdown in disguise dormammu makes it even better.

SolarPowered said:
Block and watch her meter gain/damage fall to the wayside. Move your way in afterwards and bring the pain.
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Block means chip, and you still gain meter for chipping. With hidden missiles moving in is surprisingly hard.
 
Ogrekiller said:
I don't mind Morrigan, it's a refreshing change of pace from the stupid rushdown heavy game marvel has become. Any kind of zoning that can beat fucking teleports and divekicks is fine in my book.
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What are you talking about?

SolarPowered said:
Block and watch her meter gain/damage fall to the wayside. Move your way in afterwards and bring the pain.
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Block > She gains enough meter to get another power up super > she can continue blocking aerial AND ground approach.

Or at least make her fireballs go away if she gets hit. The fact that even when you get in, your not safe and have to block again is bullshit, because it let's Morrigan get away free.
 
enzo_gt said:
I am in favour of a stew, but that shit is fundamentally broken I say. Also, Morrigan doesn't immediately become ass if you take that away. I put Morrigan in A tier ATM anyways because of the spam. She is nowhere close to low tier, you'd be a fool if you think so. Tournament results prove it too.
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Thing is, without meter gain, there's no way she's popping Sin & Punishment mode more than once or twice per match unless you're really godlike with Soul Drain timing/placing. Her solo anchor game also gets fucked since she won't get meter enough off her extended combos to do anything with Astral Vision and her other options will probably be more attractive to deal with the here and now threat in front of her.
 
enzo_gt said:
Block > She gains enough meter to get another power up super > she can continue blocking aerial AND ground approach.

Or at least make her fireballs go away if she gets hit. The fact that even when you get in, your not safe and have to block again is bullshit, because it let's Morrigan get away free.
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Lower fireball damage back to previous Vanilla levels. That and a regular ground dash works pretty well if you want a nerf.

She doesn't need much of anything if you ask me. Once she runs out of meter she has bad damage, meh normals, low mobility and high defense. She is nothing special without astral vision. I don't see why anyone wants her to go back to that.
AzureJericho said:
Thing is, without meter gain, there's no way she's popping Sin & Punishment mode more than once or twice per match unless you're really godlike with Soul Drain timing/placing. Her solo anchor game also gets fucked since she won't get meter enough off her extended combos to do anything with Astral Vision and her other options will probably be more attractive to deal with the here and now threat in front of her.
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Yep, she is not a threat once she runs out of meter. Her only other useful hyper for damage is a level 3 so she is assed out pretty quick. Buffing her astral vision was the best idea they had for her and I'm glad they did it. It still takes enough work that people need to back her up with an assist to make the spam work too.

Her stuff is a far cry from Phoenix, XF3 Wesker, Spencer, Zero and a whole bunch of amazing solo characters.
 
AzureJericho said:
Thing is, without meter gain, there's no way she's popping Sin & Punishment mode more than once or twice per match unless you're really godlike with Soul Drain timing/placing. Her anchor game also gets fucked since she won't get meter enough off her extended combos to do anything with and her other options will probably be more attractive to deal with the here and now threat in front of her.
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Die and Chris G's pop that mode WAY more than twice per match. Even as an anchor, you can fly and chuck fireballs pretty safely, and even cover your downward approach with a drill kick. We've seen Die do it a million times, and really, there's not much you can do.

Her combos doing ass damage definitely hurts her game as an anchor though, but her lame game makes up for it.

SolarPowered said:
Lower fireball damage back to previous Vanilla levels. That and a regular ground dash works pretty well if you want a nerf.

She doesn't need much of anything if you ask me. Once she runs out of meter she has bad damage, meh normals, low mobility and high defense. She is nothing special without astral vision. I don't see why anyone wants her to go back to that.
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My problem is she can gain her meter back far too easily to return to her dominating mode. Her aerial mobility is pretty good, I wouldn't call it meh. I don't want her to go back to Vanilla Morrigan, it's a nice change of pace, and I love how the lame game can coexist with the rushdown game, I'm just saying it's not perfect. If lowering fireball damage is the only way of lowering meter gain from her fireballs than so be it, but I'm not asking for something drastic either. Maybe a 10-15% max decrease.

EDIT: And in saying this, I do support letting it rock 100% instead of a nerf. I have ever since people have been crying for Sent nerfs.
 
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