We Asians make a peace sign when someone takes a photo of us. I dunno why, it's just a compulsion. Every time I see a camera pointed at me my hand instantly shapes itself into a peace sign. I can't stop it. Sometimes it happens without me realizing. It's like the hand has a mind of its own. It's like it is controlling us instead of us controlling it. Sometimes I wake up at night and my hand is raised making a peace sign.
Girls Generation - "The Boys" Live On David Letterman
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vas_a_morir
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Uh oh, dude. Somebody is taking pictures of you sleeping.
Wait until their movie comes out man, it's gonna be killer
Oscar-worthy right here
Yeah, I was only joking. Not a big Wonder Girls fan.
Phonomezer
Banned
I admittedly don't even know who Clazziquai and IU are, and I can't watch links in class, so I can't comment on them. As for GD & TOP...I don't see any reason to believe they would be anymore successful than Far East Movement. Maybe they would get one hit, but no real lasting impact.
2NE1 are the only ones with any real chance because they fit into what's big in western music right now more than Girls Generation and Wonder Girls. Admittedly, I think their attitude is the biggest thing though. They actually pull off legitimately seeming like they have swagger, which most asian girl groups in general fail miserably at.
In Korea that's more like flashing a thumbs-up.
Evening Musuko
Black Korea
Wonder Girls? That TeenNick movie is giving me serious Cheetah Girl vibes.
Oh there are plenty of those. In Japan you got Hikaru Utada, Ayaka, Ken Hirai, Emi Hinouchi, Ayumi Hamasaki (manufacutred yes, but still writes her own songs) and Naotaro Moriyama just to name a few. Also, Japanese artists tend to sing live, both on TV and during live concerts, even "Manufactured" pop idols like Morning Musume and AKB48. Don't know that much about Kpop these days but Seo Taiji was more or less like that back in the day.
BrLvgThrChmstry
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Self denial? Fans will be fans I guess. I enjoy me some pop music of all sorts from all regions. But this... there is hardly anything remarkable about them. We all have opinions, some less favored than others. Nothing new.
And as you can see. Ignorance isn't exclusive to just one side.
It's funny some resort to calling it shit. What's even funnier is people who call their music shit, and proceed to comment on their looks just to grasp at anything against GG.
Like so:
Edit: Oh god, lol. He looked familiar too. Damn you troll!
He got me good though ;_;
This seems to be quite a popular theme here. It's impossible to not like this unless you only like heavy metal? That's quite the claim there. Still, it's better than the claim that people who don't like this are racist against Koreans.
They should have chosen a different song, cause that one was terrible as a debut. It seems they were forcing some of the english lyrics just because they're in the US. Came out a bit awkward, and the cramped dancing area did not help. They should have used the most popular youtube song they had and stuck with a majority of Korean lyrics.
i was trying to be funny lol its not supposed to be serious, we all have different tastes
Pretty much.
AbortedWalrusFetus
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GD & TOP are just better musicians all around in my opinion. They have far more musical range, way better fashion handlers, and T.O.P. is way better looking (G Dragon is too girly). I mean, the range of their EP is just kind of amazing. You wouldn't even think that Knockout and Don't Go Home or Baby, Goodnight were even from the same group.
I agree with this assessment. I just wouldn't say that they are anywhere near the top in actual musical talent.
cloudwalking
300chf ain't shit to me
yeah i agree with this. they seem to have a way broader appeal in general. the attitude and "girl power" message they convey in their music is unique especially in korea where 99% of the girl groups sing about crushes and boys and oppa this oppa that.
also, they all speak really good english with minimal/no accent (even minzy's not bad) unlike in SNSD where some members can't speak well or have a super thick accent. in SNSD tiffany and jessica just do all of the talking...
so yeah, i think 2ne1 would have a shot. when i heard that will.i.am is working with them on their US debut i got a bit worried, though. i can't stand him or the black eyed peas.
"Hey you im going to give constructive criticism saying why a band is shallow, manufactured, and generally will be forgotten with time."
OMG YOU'RE SUCH A HATTER, I CAN'T GIVE YOU A LOGICAL REASON AS TO WHY IM DISAGREEING WITH YOU, YOU'RE SUCH A HATTER
Also, most metal sucks for the same reasons why this sucks. Soulless, non inventive music that does nothing to push any boundaries or progress at all
It's ok to like something and in general understand it's bad, most people don't want you to enjoy stuff, we just want you to understand that not only is it horrible, but there is much better music out there.
EDIT: welp nevermind then
OMG YOU'RE SUCH A HATTER, I CAN'T GIVE YOU A LOGICAL REASON AS TO WHY IM DISAGREEING WITH YOU, YOU'RE SUCH A HATTER
Also, most metal sucks for the same reasons why this sucks. Soulless, non inventive music that does nothing to push any boundaries or progress at all
It's ok to like something and in general understand it's bad, most people don't want you to enjoy stuff, we just want you to understand that not only is it horrible, but there is much better music out there.
EDIT: welp nevermind then
im the troll?
Niks is the troll. He's a popular dude in the K Pop thread.
Even with 2ne1 Kpop will never be popular in the US. Especially with how the US music industry is the most fickle, they could blow up or they could flop. It cant be predicted really
LOL just noticed that too XD
LOL just noticed that too XD
I only listen to night bus. Do you like night bus?
vas_a_morir
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2NE1 has great potential, for sure. The only problem I have with them is that they are the most apparent poseurs I have ever seen. They need to reel in that ghetto/hood talk a bit.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Is there anyone on this thread more racist against Koreans than I?
It's just fanatics on any side that do that shit. I worked with some guy that loved death metal, and when I told him I didn't like it, he went out of his way to tell me how much I like Brittany Spears/Justin Timberlake. People are just spazzes.
That black bar on the right was going to drive me insane, so I fixed it for you.
I don't know who made the gif, but I encounter that problem constantly. It'll pop up sometimes when I export a gif from Premiere Pro. You just have to load the gif into Photoshop and reduce the canvas size by a pixel or two on the side where the bar is, it's pretty easy.
/creepygafgifmasterout
lol I made that gif, I caught it later but was too lazy to fix it.
AbortedWalrusFetus
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Basically. The skit was not as funny as Regis having a boner after the performance. It was probably his first one in 20 years. Joy got some last night!
Dude Abides
Banned
Some of them are not doing it. Will they lose their citizenship? Will they be trapped at JFK indefinitely like Tom Hanks in that movie?
We tried but its not in Engrish
AbortedWalrusFetus
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Sammy Samusu
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LMFAO
Dice
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Eh, I actually agree with you. SNSD is sitting somewhere around 15 in my rankings of kpop girl groups, and this is by far their shittiest promoted track. However, I suppose it's the vague nature of all the trash talking in here that makes it so absurd. It gives it the impression that this totally blows compared to most pop acts in America. That's just false. Fact is, most people here probably hate most American pop acts as well. The shit they like is way more niche and I know that for a fact because of our many music threads. It's just the way people are phrasing all their judgments that make them so ridiculous.
I think it's just the nature of our digital age as well. It can either broaden your perspective as you experience hundreds of completely different sorts of music performance, or narrow it as you refine your tastes to something specific and use the internet to find your own little clique of 20 other people in the world who are just like you. Either way, all styles and formats and mannerisms and even emotions are derivative. Humans are derivative of humanity. It's generally offensive to look at a product of someone's lifelong passion and say they are like robots. Would you say that to someone on Broadway for following exactly what they rehearsed for months? We have to keep in mind the intent of the format.
That said, I feel like I just said too many words, because I don't want to get trapped arguing about/explaining the wide rage of practices for music performance in the world, their intents and purposes, their creative and constructive processes, and the validity of each of these things and end-result value to humanity. It's far too broad yet perfectly well plain to see as you take an honest look at music overall as it is practiced and received in the world. It's a lovely thing that serves many purposes in life in different ways. To narrow it down so far that you toss out a whole classification of it is ridiculous to me.
Take it up with Teddy Riley, lol. The fact he produced it is another hilarious note in the middle of all the criticism in here.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Conscription with 12 month service on the DMZ.
Sammy Samusu
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2NO1 remains local and they can keep filling the international visa application form. Ain't nobody here for that mess.
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