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Manga Discussion/News Thread |OT4| New Ch/Vols! - SEE FIRST POST FOR RULES!
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I'm tsundere or yandere. Not sure which.
Your batting 0 today. Maybe its time for trash manga recommendations instead?
Why do you guys do this to me
I'm going to read Solanin.
I know I can count on you guys
smh for not doing so already
And you call yourself a manga fan
At least I keep my end on manga bets.
Tribes of Trusty
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Yeah let's do this. I'd recommend Wolf Guy. At least, compared to Solanin, there's actual action and character development. And rape.
Solanin 28 - End
Well, the art is good, but otherwise I didn't find it particularly memorable. It's not bad, it's just that I as I said a few posts before, didn't feel anything special. For me it was a very ordinary story.
On the plus side, there wasn't any of the usual irritating tropes/clichés you find in slice-of-life/romance manga, it was rather mature. I liked the flashback in university, I feel like there should be more manga with college students.
god damn it you still remember
Maleficence
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Are you unable to read or something?
Would explain your crazy love of bleach.
I never mentioned the mage council at all, and I never said they were the most powerful mages alive.
Infinite Justice
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Solanin was pretty good and actually "normal" (at least compared to other stories)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6V51NLAS8c&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6V51NLAS8c&feature=related
That's why it's good cause it doesn't feature shitty tropes, shitty main leads and shitty generic love story.
I was gonna read this till I realized only 3/10 volumes were translated. Though the group doing it seem very dedicated so it's not gonna take 10 years for the whole thing to finish.
The fuck is going on in here? We're hating on Asano now? I mean, opinions and all but I thought ManGAF was better than that.
Solanin made me fucked up for weeks (in the good way though).
Not feeling anything special for Asano doesn't mean hating on him really. Calling his art shit though, now that would be more akin to hating on him!
Wtf how can a trope/cliche be "shitty"?
Oxigen_Waste
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Yeah let's do this. I'd recommend Wolf Guy. At least, compared to Solanin, there's actual action and character development. And rape.
Solanin 28 - End
Well, the art is good, but otherwise I didn't find it particularly memorable. It's not bad, it's just that I as I said a few posts before, didn't feel anything special. For me it was a very ordinary story.
On the plus side, there wasn't any of the usual irritating tropes/clichés you find in slice-of-life/romance manga, it was rather mature. I liked the flashback in university, I feel like there should be more manga with college students.
Best Manga I've ever read, personally... but I guess to each it's own and it's bound to appeal more to the "lost" where am I going with my life type like myself...
Tribes of Trusty
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Cliché = stereotyped and trite.
Trope = story device, but you can not like them.
For example, the protagonist bumping into a female and conveniently falling right into her breasts / pantsu is such an overused trope it can be considered a cliché. And since it's so contrived, unbelievable, overused, you could call it "shitty".
Trope = story device, but you can not like them.
For example, the protagonist bumping into a female and conveniently falling right into her breasts / pantsu is such an overused trope it can be considered a cliché. And since it's so contrived, unbelievable, overused, you could call it "shitty".
hey mysticwhip, Asano art shits all over Kishimoto art. How do you feel about that?
Aw, can't respond to me?
I'm not following what you getting at
Pretty much why I like it. The story resonates with me as a 20 years old dude who is in university and has to face the real world at one point.
exactly
I wish there was more stuff out there like this but if there is I haven't found it.
Something being "cliche" or being a "trope" refers to factual bases rather than opinionated one, which is why it's always bothered me when someone says "It's so cliche." to criticize something. The problem with this is that saying that and any variation of it is a pure blanket statement, as that statement could be said about anything and still could factually apply. Whatever you think "isn't cliche" or "isn't full of tropes" is cliche and is full of tropes, and if such a set of criticism is valid then we have to disregard a couple of century's worth of literature, and other storytelling mediums created in the last 100 years, as being "cliche tripe." Everything has already been done, including Solanin
Tribes of Trusty
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Well, maybe that comes into play, but personally, even if I'm actually a college student, I'm not and never been in the same kind of situation, so I guess don't relate at all with the setting.
And I don't hate Asano, I liked A Girl By The Sea :d
Nisekoi 1-15
Well the setting has some original and not-so-original elements (I mean, a promise made between kids ten years ago ? Come on...but I'm a sucker for Yakuza in any story), it just needs more comedy and less love-drama-fidgeting.
No, shut up. I'm absolutely right and I'm sick and tired of hearing this shit being spouted as legitimate discussion. It spoils everything, even if you don't realize it, the lingering ignorance influences people to do the same shit. "It's so cliche" is the biggest fluke of all time. I'm just tired of it, is all.
Oxigen_Waste
Banned
Anyways, anyone know where I can get my hands on english copies of Sanctuary? I can't find it anywhere.... ebay is a dead end. Must ship to Europe, btw.
Well you know I'm not claiming Solanin to be the beacon of originality or anything or even dismissing a story that uses tropes, cliches, overused plot devices or whatever.
I'm just saying that compared to your good old slice of life romance garbage, Solanin does a lot of things better than them and one of these things include not using shitty elements such as perfect MC, everyone is beautiful, everything is flowers and roses, fall on girls breasts, see your love interest naked, and so on.
There are somethings that can't be left alone gunbo
Hmm, I guess I should remove your name from my death note. You are a cool guy after all
Yeah but the girl is still cute, even after all this...but that's despite the point. It's nothing against you I just go ballistic when someone says this.
The height of laziness on forums especially, is when a discussion about a movie/game/book/comic/etc. (something with a narrative) comes up, there is always several people that, in general, will say, "I did not like the story because it's cliche." to sum it up in the most robotic fashion I can. Now I realize you weren't criticizing other manga by doing this, but I feel like it could easily lead to someone on here saying, "Yeah it isn't like Love Hina or shit like that!" an entire opinionated comment based off something being "cliche," leading to a series of lazy arguments of which series out-cliches the other and resulting in nothing actual progressive as a discussion. "No, actually, Negima is more cliche." "Shut the fuck up, you're wrong, xxxHolic is more cliche."
A good example of this is that in a discussion about One Piece while back when I was marathoning Bleach, I described pretty well, in detail, why I thought the death of the Going Merry was highly emotional and involving. Beam's response? "Too cheesy," another form of "too cliche." This is why it's the ultimate form of lazy response, because you can't form an actual argument against it other than telling them that their reasoning sucks and they'll just say, "You're just someone who can't accept other people's opinions." NO DIPSHIT, it's because you aren't typing up a real opinion in the first place!
This is just a personal pet-peeve of mine. Maybe it's because I try to take careful effort into my posts, that this bothers me quite a lot.
Sweet, new chapter!
Infinite Justice
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Waifus gotta be cute man
Thanks for the reminder
Aunt Tits Cousins Loving 21
She has only seen them in manga? We both have the same experience then
Oxigen_Waste
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If anything, it's the opposite of Bleach! The story is spot on and is exactly the reason why it is one the most beloved mangas ever written. I understand if you don't relate... but you can't just fault the story like that....
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NO.
I was looking for a while and it's really hard man. Not even rightstuf has them.
Book depository has like one or two copies I think while the rest are used from Abe Books. Maybe some of them will ship to Europe
gundamkyoukai
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Its like fucking with an caged animal using a stick
Still i can understand where he is coming from .
@gunbo13
This chapter of HSDK was just totally ridiculous i could not help but LOL during the whole chapter .
I hope this arc ends soon .
I also see that Beam got called out and was even given his own dialogue, just to be insulted on retort. lol We need Grimace back. One poster arguing for two people just isn't going to cut it.Its like fucking with an caged animal using a stick
Yea but....who cares? Manga right?
I don't know. :'(
I'm very passionate about manga as a medium (or, to be precise, the entire comic medium), and manga fans are the most guilty of "it's so cliche." So yeah, who cares? Well I do.
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