2012 NBA Feb |OT2| Kobe Bryant is a MAN

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What players in NBA history have actually made drastic improvements to their FT percentage over time though? C-Webb and Malone are the only two guys who come to mind that went from garbage to decent/good FT shooters. Seems like players are who they are at the FT line. There are a handful of anomalies who can make that kind of drastic improvement but I wouldn't ever bet on Blake being that guy not because of some kind of perceived flaws to his game or work ethic, just because history isn't on his side.

Not sure how you define drastic but the first one off the top of my head was Tyson Chandler.

Mostly a mid 50's to low 60 percent shooter who is now in the 70's.

but you are right that it seems that most players rarely improve much if at all.
 
Not sure how you define drastic but the first one off the top of my head was Tyson Chandler.

Mostly a mid 50's to low 60 percent shooter who is now in the 70's.

but you are right that it seems that most players rarely improve much if at all.

You don't see a guy go from 55 to 85 that often, true.

But I think if you look at most players' careers, you do see improvement for their first few years.

Even Nash's 1st 3 years were below 86.1%

What you usually see is a 55 become 65 or a 65 become 72 or a 72 become 77, etc. Not large improvement, but enough to matter.

Blake doesn't need to become an 85% shooter. But if he could get to at least 65%, it changes things quite a bit. And he can shoot, which is why his FT shooting is maddening.
 
I still don't understand how NBA players cannot all shoot at least 70% on free throws. You're getting paid millions of dollars and you can't get easy, free points.
 
I still don't understand how NBA players cannot all shoot at least 70% on free throws. You're getting paid millions of dollars and you can't get easy, free points.

I won't bitch about the big guys. I have no perspective on shooting as a 7 footer. But the guys like rondo who can't shoot make no sense to me.

Or guys like Bowen who could shoot 40% from 3, but barely get that at the FT line. WTF is that.

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Crazy: Derrick Williams 1st player ever to shoot 90% FG (min 10 FGA) and 100% on 3s (min 4) & FT (min 5) in a game. via @ESPNStatsInfo
 
I still don't understand how NBA players cannot all shoot at least 70% on free throws. You're getting paid millions of dollars and you can't get easy, free points.

The really interesting thing is that you'd expect free throw shooting to increase all around over the decades..... Better understanding of shooting, better training, LASIK surgery etc.

Yet it's been constantly the same for like 50 years now.
 
The really interesting thing is that you'd expect free throw shooting to increase all around over the decades..... Better understanding of shooting, better training, LASIK surgery etc.

Yet it's been constantly the same for like 50 years now.

I don't think there's any substitute for practice and repetition. I'm guessing a lot of guys just don't do that enough.
 
no i agree they should and i would

but im not the one crying like a baby at wade in the first place for doing the same thing

literal hypocrisy
 
no i agree they should and i would

but im not the one crying like a baby at wade in the first place for doing the same thing

literal hypocrisy

Dishing out a hard foul at the ASG is classless. You can defend it all you want but to me shit was wrong.

No hypocrisy here, at all. I question why you would even call that out...are you tired or.trolling?
 
What players in NBA history have actually made drastic improvements to their FT percentage over time though? C-Webb and Malone are the only two guys who come to mind that went from garbage to decent/good FT shooters. Seems like players are who they are at the FT line. There are a handful of anomalies who can make that kind of drastic improvement but I wouldn't ever bet on Blake being that guy not because of some kind of perceived flaws to his game or work ethic, just because history isn't on his side.

Joel Pryzbilla is the most dramatic I've ever seen.

51.7
53.3
37.0 (This season doesn't really count, since he only had 27 attempts)
68.0
66.3
 
Dishing out a hard foul at the ASG is classless. You can defend it all you want but to me shit was wrong.

No hypocrisy here, at all. I question why you would even call that out...are you tired or.trolling?

...wade was fouled cheaply twice in the same game and then retaliated

...you are bitching about him retaliating

...and calling for other to retaliate against him

either you dont like retaliation period, in which case you should stop asking for the lakers to break wade, or you like retaliation, in which case stfu about wade already goddamn

cant pick and choose depending on if a player is playing for the heat or not

all im sayin, tryin to have your cake and eat it too
 
...wade was fouled cheaply twice in the same game and then retaliated

...you are bitching about him retaliating

...and calling for other to retaliate against him

either you dont like retaliation period, in which case you should stop asking for the lakers to break wade, or you like retaliation, in which case stfu about wade already goddamn

cant pick and choose depending on if a player is playing for the heat or not

all im sayin, tryin to have your cake and eat it too

First off I'm Cavs age, neither team matters to me.

Secondly Wade wasn't fouled."hard." you're grasping for straws here.

third The reason Wade needs to be dealt with is that fucking mouth of his. He's a petulant little brat and all that's wrong with this current entitled generation of nba stars. Where's Laimbeer when you really need him?
 
Derozan has been playing pretty well in February, especially in his last 5 games.

Hope he can continue that form.

These really close losses also make me very happy.
 
First off I'm Cavs age, neither team matters to me.

Secondly Wade wasn't fouled."hard." you're grasping for straws here.

third The reason Wade needs to be dealt with is that fucking mouth of his. He's a petulant little brat and all that's wrong with this current entitled generation of nba stars. Where's Laimbeer when you really need him?

BWHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
I'm hoping Duki is now a Heat fan because he makes as little sense as those who need to fan up.

People are still defending Wade and his cheating ways... weird. The guy singlehandedly killed the idea of flopping being a Euro thing because he became the biggest bitch in the NBA.
 
griffin and paul both score 30+ while jordan has a 14-14 game and they loose to the wolves with kevin love not scoring? what kind of bizzaro world did i wake up in?


also what the hell is 'fan night' every damn night should be fan night.
 
griffin and paul both score 30+ while jordan has a 14-14 game and they loose to the wolves with kevin love not scoring? what kind of bizzaro world did i wake up in?

The one where the Clippers allowed Beasley and Williams to get into the lane all night. Their defense is terrible.
 
While I can't fault him for a smart play I can say the NBA needs more Durants and Roses and less Lebrons, Wades, and Howards.

They bitch, cry, and demand "all eyes on me" like 6 year old girls.

Oh I see so you're old school tough guy?

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Yeah, the NBA needs more boring and dull personalities. And more guys who love their mommy and are nice kids.

I hope you have fun with that league.
 
Oh I see so you're old school tough guy?

deal-with-it.jpg



Yeah, the NBA needs more boring and dull personalities. And more guys who love their mommy and are nice kids.

I hope you have fun with that league.

Height of the NBA was late 80's/Early 90's when it was full of these "dull" personalities. Now? Struggle...People who actually spend money can't get behind this pansy ass me beofre the game bullshit. Which is why I like Irving..class and skills.
 
Height of the NBA was late 80's/Early 90's when it was full of these "dull" personalities. Now? Struggle...People who actually spend money can't get behind this pansy ass me beofre the game bullshit. Which is why I like Irving..class and skills.

So humble.
 
Height of the NBA was late 80's/Early 90's when it was full of these "dull" personalities. Now? Struggle...People who actually spend money can't get behind this pansy ass me beofre the game bullshit. Which is why I like Irving..class and skills.

Dull personalities? You mean when there was an insane amount of trash talking and thuggery going on every game? Or how nearly every superstar to ever exist in the game was polarizing in some fashion? and the countless number of times 'stars' have gotten coaches fired?

And you do realize behind Durant's "humbleness" he fishes for fouls and complains on court as much as any other star in the league? But I guess the latter doesn't matter to you as much now because he loves his mommy.

the reality is, without these 'dickheads' you aren't gonna have a quality product. which is why you shouldn't care for a dude's personality. I root for Jeremy Lin cause he's ABC and was balling before he faced my boys...but if he was a total asswipe it wouldn't deter my opinion of him. I'd keep watching for him so he could continue talking trash (if that's how he chose to be)
 
Dull personalities? You mean when there was an insane amount of trash talking and thuggery going on every game? Or how nearly every superstar to ever exist in the game was polarizing in some fashion?

And you do realize behind Durant's "humbleness" he fishes for fouls and complains on court as much as any other star in the league? But I guess the latter doesn't matter to you as much now because he loves his mommy.

and I had no idea you went to watch a basketball game to watch someone be classy...

I have no problems with on court behavior in terms of being a dick like Mike or a "thug" lile Laimbeer...keep the stupid as "decisions", lack of loyalty, and dumbass handshakes behind the curtain.

PS: Durant humbly tweeted his extension. I like that.
 
...wade was fouled cheaply twice in the same game and then retaliated

...you are bitching about him retaliating

...and calling for other to retaliate against him

either you dont like retaliation period, in which case you should stop asking for the lakers to break wade, or you like retaliation, in which case stfu about wade already goddamn

cant pick and choose depending on if a player is playing for the heat or not

all im sayin, tryin to have your cake and eat it too

By fouled cheaply you must mean breathed on by a player from the opposing team. He was pissed he didn't get his usual superstar free throws and he acted like a fucking baby.
 
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