franknbeans
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Dale died for everyone's sins. Now they have to carry that burden
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Night_Trekker
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Best goddamn character in the show (played by the best actor in the show) is gone. Killed by a Stealth Zombie.
Daryl buys it and I am done with this show for good. Not kidding.
Yeah. In a zombie apocalypse, the best way to be is a two-dimensional badass. Never feeling, never making moral judgements, never considering what separates human beings from animals. That's the way real men would behave.
And once you've decided life is entirely about protecting you and yours, why not enslave the "others" you meet, or have a little fun with them before you dispatch them? There's no world left, and everyone is basically dead already. Why not?
Daryl buys it and I am done with this show for good. Not kidding.
Yeah. In a zombie apocalypse, the best way to be is a two-dimensional badass. Never feeling, never making moral judgements, never considering what separates human beings from animals. That's the way real men would behave.
And once you've decided life is entirely about protecting you and yours, why not enslave the "others" you meet, or have a little fun with them before you dispatch them? There's no world left, and everyone is basically dead already. Why not?
The Main Event
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I was really starting to connect with T-Dog's character.
Jibbajabbawockky
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*sigh* There are just no likeable characters on this show and they all do the most idiotic things falling into every cliche horror movie trap. Why am I still watching?
Cornballer
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- THR interview with Kirkman about tonight's episode *some spoilers for later this season, some discussion of differences from the comics*
la flama blanca
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"Oh hell no"
Was that Will Smith?
Was that Will Smith?
I did too. I kept trying to post about it but GAF was down.
sixteen-bit
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OH HELL NO
brianjones
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fuck dale and his eyebrows
youre thinking way too hard about this show bro.. it's not Luck
Looooooooll, oh yeaah.
Escape Goat
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Wasn't the actor who played Dale Darabont's BFF? Did he leave/they get rid of him because of Big D leaving?
thecouncil
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maybe dale will come back as a force ghost?
to give us all dale-face from the beyond.
to give us all dale-face from the beyond.
The Main Event
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Next week's episode preview. T-Dog!!
He argued for them not to become murderers. Wow, that's morally condescending alright.
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It's a real gut punch to see Dale go, and I'm sure that's the point -- pull no punches, no one's safe. Still, there's really no one else quite like him in the group. He was a father figure, a warm character, a foil to all the hard-asses and he provided some much-needed levity.
I mean, just wow. And the saddest part is he died not knowing that in the end, Rick did the right thing. (Whether that "right thing" backfires doesn't change the fact it IS the right thing.)
I don't know, but alie....I mean zombies.
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Fuck the haters. Dale was right the whole time.
And Carl...I want him dead. Eat the little shit alive.
That's what I assume. Him and Andrea were casted with people that are big Darabount actors.
Carl, certainly is....
EmCeeGramr
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arguing that killing someone who tried to kill you and is associated with people who want to kill you is "becoming murderers" is pretty morally condescending, yes
He is next. Book it!
-Pyromaniac-
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I want Tdawg to live to the end of the series, without ever saying a word. How funny would that be as far as run on jokes.
At least we know how far show is diverging from the comic.
Here's a scary thought: Maybe he is right about it, but can a guy with morals like that survive in the world they are in now? If it had been Dale in the bar, putting ability aside, would he have gunned down those two?
I'd concede Dale's speech in the house was morally correct in every way. But sometimes there are situations being morally correct and survival are mutually exclusive.
NOTE: Not saying Dale died because of his morals here. But it would have happened eventually.
PXG said:
Here's a scary thought: Maybe he is right about it, but can a guy with morals like that survive in the world they are in now? If it had been Dale in the bar, putting ability aside, would he have gunned down those two?
I'd concede Dale's speech in the house was morally correct in every way. But sometimes there are situations being morally correct and survival are mutually exclusive.
NOTE: Not saying Dale died because of his morals here. But it would have happened eventually.
If Dale had just listened to TDawg back on the highway...
Wiggum2007
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Fuck Tdawg haters!
True unspoken hero of the show.
True unspoken hero of the show.
This man gets it
I get the feeling that their captive is more dangerous than people think. I think Dale was dead wrong. We'll have to see though.
BlueTsunami
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Someone get Carl one of these...
I don't know...
He started off as what you described. But recently he's just been this annoying character walking around telling people they're being awful. They had nothing for him really. It was time for him to go.
T-Dawg too. Please kill T-Dawg. And Carol.
Pretty sure Andrea is gonna step up her Dale game.
To be fair, they did kill his friends first.
SirButterstick
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Well, that was unexpected.
Really enjoying this show now. Last couple of episodes have been good. I actually find myself wanting to watch this show now, rather than, "It's 9 o'clock, I guess I might as well watch WD . . . . . "
Really enjoying this show now. Last couple of episodes have been good. I actually find myself wanting to watch this show now, rather than, "It's 9 o'clock, I guess I might as well watch WD . . . . . "
Night_Trekker
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So your kid shows obvious signs of growing callous and cold.. and what do you do? You pay no attention to him and let him walk around in the fucking woods by himself.
"If there were a zombie apocalypse" is like, one of the biggest "worst case scenario" cliches imaginable. But when it's actually happening in this show, people act retarded. It seems like every episode has like 10 great moments and 1 really baffling, poorly-written plot hole.
Watch Daryl die later because he expected to have that gun in his motorcycle sidebag. Fuck you, Carl.
And can T-Dawg get a fucking line, please? I forget he even existed until they were debating the execution in the house.
Dale, dead > you, alive
Sometimes I wonder how many seasons it will take before the "why aren't they shooting more zombies and being more badass?"-crowd figures out this show isn't made for them.
Show redeemed. Make it happen, writers.
"If there were a zombie apocalypse" is like, one of the biggest "worst case scenario" cliches imaginable. But when it's actually happening in this show, people act retarded. It seems like every episode has like 10 great moments and 1 really baffling, poorly-written plot hole.
Watch Daryl die later because he expected to have that gun in his motorcycle sidebag. Fuck you, Carl.
And can T-Dawg get a fucking line, please? I forget he even existed until they were debating the execution in the house.
fuck dale and his eyebrows
Dale, dead > you, alive
Sometimes I wonder how many seasons it will take before the "why aren't they shooting more zombies and being more badass?"-crowd figures out this show isn't made for them.
Show redeemed. Make it happen, writers.
No, it's not. As he noted, there's like 12 of them and one of the kid, the kid's unarmed and completely cut off from his group, and there were no shortage of options that could've been explored had they not gone by the "gotta kill him by sundown" shtick. But they didn't because they were scared and anything would be tougher than pulling a trigger.
I'm hoping
Shane released him and bloodied himself up so that they could go hunt him down and kill him.
EmCeeGramr
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And it's not like they all turned into Shane and decided to kill him right there without any thought. They put it off for days, they agonized over it, they came to a difficult decision they didn't want to make, and Dale kept condemning them for it like it was a snap decision and preaching about not living in a survival-of-the-fittest society after several months of living in a survival-of-the-fittest society because goddamned hordes of cannibalistic corpses roam the earth. Then they listened to him and decided to try and think of an alternate solution and he still kept moping about it because it didn't work.
I sided with Dale on plenty of his earlier arguments (as intrusive as he was about making them), but he was pretty disconnected from reality here.
I gotta agree with this. Carl getting that much alone time without Lori and/or Rick freaking out is quite incredulous. Especially after the Sofia debacle.
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Out of all those options, is there one that doesn't create at least some kind of physical risk for the group? There's only one, and the only risk of that one is a moral/humanity one. Seems like the group was more interested in safety and not dying. Cold, maybe. But its way more believable. Another reason why I like the movie 21 Days Later. It shows why coldly performing survival at all costs can ruin a person, but it also equally shows that sometimes morals have to be sacrificed for survival. Corpses can't consider the morality of their condition.
And again, funny thing is I agree with Dale on the morality of the situation. I just am not sure I could hold myself to it, were I in that same position
SugarDaddy
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No way Randall must live, lest Dales death be in vain.
Cellbomber
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Maybe he'll be the last one left and then talk to himself non-stop.
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