Seriously, how many Brits are on this show?
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-Pyromaniac-
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they're all gonna be british soon. Rick, Maggie, the governor is british too isn't he.
mysocksarepink
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maggie is infitently more sexy now that I know she has a hidden english accent under that tv-southern accent
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking
I think it's in a weird spot now. I think he clearly must have been intended to have said, "Your wife is pregnant. Shitty news in zombie city USA eh?"
but the writing shake ups seem to have ditched it.
bodyofanamerican
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Yeah, I guess you're right. I was running with the CDC guy telling Rick they're all infected theory.
As an audio engineer, I did some high tech analysis and CDC guy actually said, "Get ready for some shitty special effects..."
cuevas. PhD.
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Why were they looking for them then?
-Pyromaniac-
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because they don't know any better...yet
;(...speaking of sound. They put some "zombie" in shane's breathing throughout the episode. Cool and subtle foreshadowing. Really underlines how crazy he was getting.
I think he just wanted to get the guns...
Dramatic irony, the characters don't know the rules.
I think he just wanted to get the guns...
Dramatic irony, the characters don't know the rules.
SirButterstick
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T-Dawg was definitely the hero of this episode.
Spoilers ahead.
Spoilers ahead.
Did you see how he moved those crates from the pickup truck to inside the house?
He really settled that whole
who sleeps in the master bed
Supermanisdead
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Dear Team Shane...... suck it.
I don't think it was underlined enough to expect the audience to remember or connect those dots.
Night_Trekker
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That's true.
But last week we saw a very smart guy get killed by a stealthy, apparently trap-laying zombie who was 5 feet away but invisible since it was out of frame. So maybe the writers just screwed up :/
Yeah that didn't make any sense.
I also don't buy that that many zombies were amassed and wandering around aimlessly in the woods as close by as they were to the farm and never once heard a noise loud enough to attract them. People are walking around slamming doors, driving cars back and forth, talking and yelling loudly sometimes, firing guns occasionally.
Very plot-convenient.
It didn't occur to me consciously, but now that you mention it, I was thinking (absently) about that during the scene, too.
Also, Jimmy was clearly hammering nothing into the house when he was "reinforcing" it.
Good catch! That is cool.
I dunno. That's a pretty big thing to dismiss which Rick did at the beginning of the season when he was trying to contact Jones. If everyone were already infected, wouldn't Jenner have simply gotten blood samples from the group and continue his search for a cure?
The power was fixing to run out and self destruct the center IIRC. That's why they couldn't stay.
Supermanisdead
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How long do we have to wait for gifs of psycho-Shane slapping his head or running into a tree?
Jeff Green's Son
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About all the zombies showing up in the end. Hershel mentioned earlier in the episode about how it was more dangerous outside as it got colder because the mud pits would dry up as well as the water, making it easier for the zombies to get closer and not stuck like the one did.
Really? I thought it was inevitable from season 1, they weren't going to kill him season 1 because they had to establish the group and it was pretty obvious they were going to save it as a "shock" kill. And the way his character was developing it gave it away even more.
Besides most people hated shane and not just because of the way they made him play it, guy is a terrible actor.
Night_Trekker
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Are we ever going to see Morgan and Duane again? Do they not have access to the actors anymore or something? This is a big oversight, writers!
I think his fake accent wasn't great, but he's not a bad actor at all. I've seen him in other things and he was fine.
He's also rumored to be starring in a new, upcoming Daramont show called L.A. Noir (no relation to the game.) So he would have to leave eventually.
It would be clever.
But I like that the second season has introduced non-zombie enemies (after the stories Randal told and the things he said to Shane in the woods, we can be certain they're very bad people). I have a feeling they'll tie up the season all too neatly by eliminating that group, which is why that explanation sounds plausible to me, but I'd like to see some smarter, longer-term antagonists of the non-zombie variety, too. (AWOL Merle aside.)
I think his fake accent wasn't great, but he's not a bad actor at all. I've seen him in other things and he was fine.
He's also rumored to be starring in a new, upcoming Daramont show called L.A. Noir (no relation to the game.) So he would have to leave eventually.
It would be clever.
But I like that the second season has introduced non-zombie enemies (after the stories Randal told and the things he said to Shane in the woods, we can be certain they're very bad people). I have a feeling they'll tie up the season all too neatly by eliminating that group, which is why that explanation sounds plausible to me, but I'd like to see some smarter, longer-term antagonists of the non-zombie variety, too. (AWOL Merle aside.)
SirButterstick
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You know, I might actually be disappointed if T-Dawg dies. He minds his own business, and stays out of the drama of the group. Smart man.
Cornballer
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Final content wrap up for tonight in case anyone is looking for more info on this week's episode or the stuff for next week. I'll take another look tomorrow morning if I have time and see if there's anything else out there.
AMC Content:
- Sneak Peek at the season finale (please spoiler tag any discussion)
- Inside Episode 12
- Preview for the season finale (please spoiler tag any discussion)
Reviews:
- Sepinwall Review
- Onion A|V Club review
Other:
- EW.com: Jon Bernthal (a.k.a. Shane) talks about the latest 'Walking Dead' shocker *spoilers*
- THR: 'The Walking Dead' Dissection: Robert Kirkman Dishes on 'Monumental Event' *spoilers*
- EW.com: 'Walking Dead' exec producer Robert Kirkman talks about tonight's episode and THAT [SPOILER!]: 'I am a mad man!' *spoilers*
AMC Content:
- Sneak Peek at the season finale (please spoiler tag any discussion)
- Inside Episode 12
- Preview for the season finale (please spoiler tag any discussion)
Reviews:
- Sepinwall Review
- Onion A|V Club review
Other:
- EW.com: Jon Bernthal (a.k.a. Shane) talks about the latest 'Walking Dead' shocker *spoilers*
- THR: 'The Walking Dead' Dissection: Robert Kirkman Dishes on 'Monumental Event' *spoilers*
- EW.com: 'Walking Dead' exec producer Robert Kirkman talks about tonight's episode and THAT [SPOILER!]: 'I am a mad man!' *spoilers*
For those wondering where the herd came from, lets not forget that at the beginning of the episode the crew were out killing 5-8 walkers that had wandered onto the farm and killed another cow. Hershel also pointed out that they have something like 50 cows on the property, so there's quite a bit of motivation for the zombies to find a way to get to them.
With them boarding up the house and getting hunkered in, it looks like we might have a nice Night of the Living Dead-style episode coming up.
With them boarding up the house and getting hunkered in, it looks like we might have a nice Night of the Living Dead-style episode coming up.
Remember how his research lab was basically incinerated and the energy/fuel for the generators was pretty much gone by the time Rick's group got there?
Also, my theory for Rick's reasoning to dismiss Jenner's message and not tell anyone is because: 1.) he himself didn't want to believe it at first and was still going through the denial phase up until this last episode and 2.) even if he did try to tell Morgan on the radio at the beginning of Season 2 or tell his group, what good would it do? It would just have destroyed what's left of everyone's morale when everyone was still believing in hope. However, after all the events that transpired this season, I could see everyone going into Season 3 with the same knowledge that Rick has about this "disease outbreak."
I doubt it. Shane was clearly ready to gun Rick down if Rick drew his weapon. And if Rick didn't go for the shank, I bet Shane was gonna shoot him in the face the moment he got a hold of his revolver.
That and the whole "your wife's broken, your son's weak, and you don't know shit about taking care of them and I'm the right one for them!" was pretty clear about Shane's intentions.
Night_Trekker
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Yeah. This season has given some of those "one-note" characters some needed depth, but few of them are as complicated or as interesting as Shane.
In real life, Rick would be an amazing person. In TWD, he's just a fairly flat character. (But I didn't think he would do what he did to Shane, or say what he said to Carl.)
It was nice of them to hang back so Dale's death could be dramatic, wasn't it?
Because Lori is the worst mother ever.
Yeah, which is why Rick was able to do what he did. (Well, there was probably a little animal aggression behind it, too. Heh.)
But Shane was a complicated guy, and if he hadn't been conflicted about his plan, he would have pulled the trigger sooner. He hated and resented Rick for surviving, but he also loved the guy. That's why he was an interesting character.
Glad he's dead, though.
Funny, but the stuff you listed is the evidence against Shane being committed to killing Rick. Shane could have killed him in cold blood. Rick can't draw faster than a bullet travels afterall. All of that talk felt like provocation to me. I'm not saying Shane consciously wanted Rick to kill him, but his character goading a man who is saying he refuses to fight instead of just killing him speaks volumes.
Shane has a gun pointed at a man with no gun in his hands, and chose provoke him and taunt him instead of kill him and make up a story.
Shane was a self-loathing and conflicted dude. We'll never know why he didn't just kill rick though.
Eh, Dale's zombie doesn't bother me. That cow was being noisy, and the show/comics have set a precedent for the zombies being able to phase walk right behind you.It was nice of them to hang back so Dale's death could be dramatic, wasn't it?
In the comics, it's always, "Uh? Oh a zombie was right behind us while we talked about canned pears!!?"
Also, a fucking tease who likes leading on known psychos.
No complaints here. I think Shane was the most compelling character this season and the actor did a perfectly fine job at what he was asked (being 100% intense all the time).
I kinda' remember thinking it played out pretty soap opera-ish in the comics. I think it would have been goofy as hell on screen. It also wouldn't even make sense, because shane IS so much more developed here. The conflict between rick and shane was about more than Lori on the show. It means more to have rick do the deed. I think it's better on the show in this instance.
Now Dale...
Well, first ask yourself if you could have gunned down someone so easily in cold blood who you once considered to be practically your brother.
It's not like Shane wanted to kill Rick from the bottom of his heart, but Lori's little "well, I actually felt like we had something, BUT WE REALLY DIDN'T! WE WERE CONFUSED! oh, and the baby could be yours" spiel earlier in the episode finally pushed Shane over the edge, ultimately causing him to believe that he, himself was the true alpha male of the group and the one more deserving of Lori, Carl, and potentially what could be his unborn child.
Where the hell did a group of 100 zombies suddenly come from? What were they doing in the middle of nowhere?
If people turn into zombies withing a few minutes how come the guys at the bar didn't turn into zombies?
lol
If people turn into zombies withing a few minutes how come the guys at the bar didn't turn into zombies?
lol
Comics did make the reason behind killing him good like the son seeing a gun pointed at his dad and he shoots him dead, well you can't argue that if you get what I mean. But that happened in like issue 2/3 lol.
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Oh I agree 100%
I'm just saying, his crazy ass wanting rick to end his insanity and misery shouldn't be excluded as a theory. I think it fits with what we're presented with onscreen... and his love and respect for rick informs that theory a lot I think.
But yeah, Its just as likely that Shane just didn't shoot rick, out of sadness, fear, conflict and heartbreak.... and Lori really did push him with that shit.
That's the thing, I think it could be both at the same time. He was torn up inside. He was right about Sophie, he saved Lori and Carl, he saved rick, it might be his baby... he deserved the glory in his eyes, but rick would always have it. Even Andrea flip flopped on him. He seemed ready to die or to be rid of rick.
surrealist
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Team Shane was like an angry 69 Charger with the pedal on the floor headed towards a cliff. You knew it wasn't going to last, but it was a hell of a ride. Back to team Camry. I mean Team Rick.
Night_Trekker
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I wonder how Andrea is going to take the news about Shane...
Lori will probably have a whole scene where she whines and cries about it. God I am starting to hate her.
Rick shot the bigger guy (Tony) in the gut and then the head, so he wouldn't have turned. As for Dave ... I have no explanation. I don't think Rick put a bullet through his brain.
Dr. Jenner at the CDC did say the amount of time it takes for a person to turn varies wildly between individuals. So it happens as fast or as slow as it needs to happen for dramatic purposes, I guess.
Lori will probably have a whole scene where she whines and cries about it. God I am starting to hate her.
Rick shot the bigger guy (Tony) in the gut and then the head, so he wouldn't have turned. As for Dave ... I have no explanation. I don't think Rick put a bullet through his brain.
Dr. Jenner at the CDC did say the amount of time it takes for a person to turn varies wildly between individuals. So it happens as fast or as slow as it needs to happen for dramatic purposes, I guess.
Explained next episode.
People are wondering the same thing about Dale.
Remember, all those guys received a bullet through the brain.
I like the idea of that.
Half of him wanted one thing and half of him wanted almost the exact opposite at the same time.
It was definitely clear he's been a torn man since he first discovered that Rick was still alive in Season 1.
That's right. I forgot about the CDC's situation after Jenner botched the research.
alex chilton
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hate how every moral dilemma is dissected and analyzed through a 45 min of goddamn debate, almost always between two characters. Isn't there some other way to do this!!!
Comics did make the reason behind killing him good like the son seeing a gun pointed at his dad and he shoots him dead, well you can't argue that if you get what I mean. But that happened in like issue 2/3 lol.
The Walking Dead
I don't really get what you mean, no.
The reasoning in the comics was fine, but it thematically underlined something about carl. This underlines something about rick, shane and the ways they have changed as men and friends. Shane, as a developed character, deserved that pay off.
Much better than,
Shane: "I love your wife rick! Imma kill you"
Gohan: "Daaaaaddeeeeeee!!!"
Rick/Goku: "we ARE the walking dead"
That's what the show (and comic) is about... It's not an action/adventure or a horror story.
You're asking to change the premise. Not saying there isn't a good show there, just saying, it's a show about people trying to find humanity in the post apocalypse.
googleplex
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The way i see it, the writers wanted me to hate Shane. They seem to try and paint Shane as the villain and Rick as the righteous hero.
The problem is, as the story played out and Shane continued to make the right calls again, and again and Rick continued to lead the group in the most illogical way possible. Shane didn't become a villain but a tragic hero.
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