Winter 2012 Anime Thread 2.22: You Can (Not) Outpost Cajunator

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I haven't been following anime this season so I'm out of the loop. Are there any new series worth watching?

Daily Lives of Highschool Boys and Bodacious Space Pirates are the only new shows I'd really reccomend. The first is a skit based comedy about Highschool Boys and Pirates is kind of a Strek Trek style show with techno babble and space maneuvering about space pirates. Ano Natsu de Matteru is a pretty good romcom, though it's basically a re-imaging of Please Teahcer!. If you liked Bakemonogatari, Nisemonogatari is a creepier and more poorly paced/directed version of that.
 

Thoraxes

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If you want quicker gratification, don't watch Moretsu Pirates. It's a slow-burner. It's got technobabble, high-school girls, and not a terrible amount of action (but it's the stuff made for sci-fi lovers).

Another is a murder-mystery type show that has a fun concept around it.

Ano Natsu is a nice lighthearted high-school romance/comedy.

Symphogear is about using the power of song to get superpowers to fight bad guys.

Rinne no Lagrange is about cute girls piloting robots and an intergalactic war.

Daily Lives of High School Boys is basically a skit show, with lots of smaller skits making up each episode and is hilarious.
 
I haven't been following anime this season so I'm out of the loop. Are there any new series worth watching?

Bodacious Space Pirates and Tantei Opera Milky Holmes II (though watch season one first if you haven't) are the two best shows this season, for sure.

It's not as good as those two, but maybe try Daily Lives of High School Boys as well. And of course, Last Exile: Fam, the Silver Wing is nearing its conclusion, and is pretty good.
 

Defuser

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Nisemonogatari ep 11
SHAAAAAAAFT!!!
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I always knew your cheapass management will cheap out during the fight scenes. Fuck you.

Overall, this is inferior than bake due to Nishio pointless dialogue writing filling up the standard 2/3 episodes from bake to 6/7 episodes here. Hopefully Kizumonogatari will make it up for it, Maaya Sakamoto is a excellent choice for Shinobu instead of Hirano aya.

And Futakotome (Chiwa Saito) > Marshmallow Justice(Eri Kitamura)/Platinum Disco(Yuka Iguchi). Worst is futakotome single release is 3 months away.
 

Because the only thing I'd seen of it before I started watching were terribly, terribly generic looking moeblob screenshot and fanart. Never thought in a million years, especially now - when most studios are only interested in pushing fanservice they know will sell - that someone would take the magical girl genre, of all genres, and make a genuine effort to produce something thoughtful and innovative.

I'm pleasantly surprised.
 

cajunator

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Because the only thing I'd seen of it before I started watching were terribly, terribly generic looking moeblob screenshot and fanart. Never thought in a million years, especially now - when most studios are only interested in pushing fanservice they know will sell - that someone would take the magical girl genre, of all genres, and make a genuine effort to produce something thoughtful and innovative.

I'm pleasantly surprised.

You understimated SHAFT.
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE SHAFT.
It is to your peril!
 

Articalys

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And Futakotome (Chiwa Saito) > Marshmallow Justice(Eri Kitamura)/Platinum Disco(Yuka Iguchi). Worst is futakotome single release is 3 months away.
Yes! I'd still add an extra ">" between Karen's song and Tsukihi's, though the latter is still slowly growing on me, even if I still think it's the most boring OP animation of the series.
 

cajunator

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Mouretsu Pirates is definitely an acquired taste. I don't know if Shafts magic could make it more palatable to people who don't like the pacing.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Tsukihi Phoenix is the best by far if you watch OP's for the HNNNG. Otherwise I see your point.
But I watch OP's for HNNG, so...
I actually like the music for the Phoenix OP a lot. Always skipped Karen's though, just a really garbage ska sounding song.
 

cajunator

Banned
CC sakura 9

He's your rival in Clow Cards and romance.

Uieeee indeed.

I don't think stuff can get more hnng than this show =(

CCS was some nuclear weapons grade hnnng surely. It was powerful stuff and I had to pause the discs often to allow myself to recover. Definitely a joyous watch.


Yeah I was pretty surprised by how good it is. I haven't watched a lot of C3, maybe one or two episodes.

Another OST I can see being pretty great is Mouretsu Pirates.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Harem King DxD 11
Cosmic was right, best show of the season. Or at least the only one that seems to have a sense of purpose and knows what it's doing.
 

frostbyte

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I'm surprised. Wow, this Jun Ichikawa is really good but he came out of nowhere. I've never heard of his past works before either.

I don't remember anything about C3 except that I first thought it was the sequel that I wanted to that (admittedly crappy) C: The Money and Soul of Possibility. Is it any good or is it just fanservice type anime?
 
I'm surprised.

I don't remember anything about C3 except that I first thought it was the sequel that I wanted to that (admittedly crappy) C: The Money and Soul of Possibility. Is it any good or is it just fanservice type anime?

There's fanservice in it, but it's still pretty good. It's a rather deceptive show considering the first episode and 2/3 of the second episode lead you to believe it's a typical harem when the main plot is anything but.

Definitely stood out to me last year.
 

cajunator

Banned
There's fanservice in it, but it's still pretty good. It's a rather deceptive show considering the first episode and 2/3 of the second episode lead you to believe it's a typical harem when the main plot is anything but.

Definitely stood out to me last year.

Sounds like I should have stuck with it. Maybe I'll revisit it later on.
The first couple episodes definitely weren't anything special.
 
Sounds like I should have stuck with it. Maybe I'll revisit it later on.
The first couple episodes definitely weren't anything special.

Well if you didn't like it by the end of the 2nd episode, you probably aren't going to. The massive tone shift may have just been a preview of things to come, but it still stands out as one of the more defining moments in the show IMO.
 
Mouretsu Pirates is definitely an acquired taste. I don't know if Shafts magic could make it more palatable to people who don't like the pacing.

They could have made a great show out of a 13 episodes version of Boring Space Pirates. At 26 episodes it contains Blood+ levels of filler. If they bother with a movie-fied version of the show later on, I would watch that.
 

cajunator

Banned
I haven't really seen much that I would label as "filler". The introductory episodes served to flesh out the setting, Marika's situation and explain the tech on the Bentenmaru. Following that we saw early testing and excursions, and what Space Pirates typically do. Now we are seeing Marika on actual missions and shit is about to go down. It hasn't really come across as a filler type of anime.
 
I haven't really seen much that I would label as "filler". The introductory episodes served to flesh out the setting, Marika's situation and explain the tech on the Bentenmaru. Following that we saw early testing and excursions, and what Space Pirates typically do. Now we are seeing Marika on actual missions and shit is about to go down. It hasn't really come across as a filler type of anime.

He seems to be confusing detail and depth with filler, because all he wants is more shooting and less anything else, or something along those lines. The show's not like that, and it's much, MUCH better off for it.

And you're right, everything has built up gradually and deliberately, with each episode building on what Marika learns from the previous one as her adventures continue. It's all very well done. I just called the first episode "filler" because I do think it's the weakest episode of the series, and it's not very representative of what the show became in episode 2 either, in some important ways.

Also, I guess some people could see the scenes where they show future tech "filler-ish", but I've never thought so at all. That's world building, not filler!
 

Thoraxes

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Nah, the whole show contains 90% filler and 10% anything actually happening through like the first 4-5 episodes, I don't remember where it was that I dropped it but the amount of nothing happening in that show was breathtaking.

I feel the same way. There's a lot better ways they could've paced the show and the things they try to introduce. Many things that lasted for 5 episodes could've been done in 5 minutes in one episode. Like, I could've watched starting at episode 5 and I would easily know as much about the show as someone who started from the beginning.

Everything doesn't have to be 1 then 2 then 3 then 4. There's millions of ways they could've integrated those things into the actual episodes with content in them. I didn't need to know what electronic warfare was for 3 episodes when you could've put it into a 1 minute explanation while they go off on a mission.

I wouldn't call Marika's buildup very well done at all either. She's the most shallow/weakest character on her own show so far with the people around her being much more interesting.

Also, the show is about insurance fraud.
 
The first few episodes of Pirates were slow paced, but it didn't bother me much, maybe because the techno babble and electronic warfare stuff was different enough from most anime. And the show has developed pretty well since those opening episodes. At least it's not like what happened with Rinne which opened with some action, but then became utterly directionless and had no idea what kind of show it was trying to be.
 
I feel the same way. There's a lot better ways they could've paced the show and the things they try to introduce. Many things that lasted for 5 episodes could've been done in 5 minutes in one episode. Like, I could've watched starting at episode 5 and I would easily know as much about the show as someone who started from the beginning.
The episodes 2 through 5 arc is the best part of the series so far, though, and the slow pace is an important part of why that is. So I strongly disagree with you here.

And what about episodes 6-11? Why want everything to be over so quickly when the details, and tension, of the events as they happen is such an important reason for why the show's so good? I love the pacing. It's not just because it's slow for no reason, though -- it's because it's slow, with good reason. Slow, but captivating and engaging, and every episode leaves me wanting to watch the next one. And it's entirely unlike it in jut about any other way, but that one element reminds me a bit of Texhnolyze, which, of course, was quite good.

Everything doesn't have to be 1 then 2 then 3 then 4. There's millions of ways they could've integrated those things into the actual episodes with content in them.
If you wanted to cut out half of what makes the show so unique and great, sure, you could have. But it wouldn't have resulted in a better show, that's for sure!

I wouldn't call Marika's buildup very well done at all either. She's the most shallow/weakest character on her own show so far with the people around her being much more interesting.
She may not have as much depth as some characters in some ways, but she's got enough, and her attitude and ability are good. And she has had some character building -- there's her relationship with her mother, the fact that her school studies are failing as she focuses more on being a pirate, etc.

The first few episodes of Pirates were slow paced, but it didn't bother me much, maybe because the techno babble and electronic warfare stuff was different enough from most anime. And the show has developed pretty well since those opening episodes. At least's it not like what happened with Rinne which opened with some action, but then became utterly directionless and had no idea what kind of show it was trying to be.

The problem with the word "technobabble" is that it implies that the words are meaningless or something, when in fact they aren't -- they have meaning within the world of the series in question. They are describing systems and proceses in that universe. And for that reason, I've never liked that term, either for Star Trek or anything else -- sure, they're madeup words. So? They're given definitions there. Works great for me. The term "technobabble" denigrates these elements of sci-fi shows more than they deserve, really, in my opinion (and yes, I say that even though I know that in Star Trek they'd sometimes just make something up in order to get the characters out of a situation. Thinking about in the context of the show itself, it usually made sense anyway.)

But anyway, yeah, the electronic warfare stuff was quite interesting, in part because it's such a natural thing to exist, but it's also something that you almost never see in sci-fi TV shows... not flashy enough I guess, but to its credit Space Pirates not only raises the issue, it explains exactly why it'd be so important, as it certainly would be. Good job there.

That explains why I wasn't interested in atrocious space pirates......plus it has omygawdwa.

What, you only watched one episode and then dropped it? Even if not, if there is anyone like that, go back and watch more, the rest of the show is quite different from that episode!
 

Jex

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So I've decided to wrap up what I have left of Sailor Moon R. I'm planning on marathoning several series at the same time (of which Sailor Moon S is one), and my OCD demands that I begin my marathon with the first episode of each respective series, so this is sort of.......a pre marathon-marathon or something.

Sailor Moon R 79:


Sailor Moon R 80:

I just can't call two episodes a 'marathon'.
Chihayafuru 23

They're really rushing through the material now. Hopefully that means they've got a good stopping point prepared.

That's a beautiful dream to have.
 

Jex

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Sailor Moon R 52

Sailor Moon R 53

Sailor Moon R 54

Sailor Moon R 55

Sailor Moon R 56

Sailor Moon R 57

Sailor Moon R 58

Sailor Moon R 59

Sailor Moon R 60

Sailor Moon R 61

Sailor Moon R 62

Sailor Moon R 63

Sailor Moon R 64

Now that's a marathon!
 

cajunator

Banned
There is only one role which makes her a temporary goddess, and another role where her... distinct tone fits the role, other than that I might as well rub my ears against a cheese grater.

If you enjoy that sort of thing, I suppose you could. It seems rather painful to me.
 
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