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Well, on the plus side, at least we have all those other character driven universe rich science fiction trilogies to look forward to.

Oh.

Wait.

Funny to think that probably my most anticipated Sci-fi game in that vein -after all this crap was finally over- is that one by the creators of Terraria.

 

[Replicant]

I just don't get why they commited IP suicide. Now that we know that space travel has been gone for 10,000 Years (or something to that extent), what hope is there left for the story to continue? Things that I like about the series are almost gone completely.

And the journalists don't have to worry about us buying moar stuff. I already returned my PC copy back to Amazon this afternoon and unless there's anything coming soon, my PS3 copy is going back too.

 

[Tokubetsu]

 

[Achtius]

I just don't get why they commited IP suicide. Now that we know that space travel has been gone for 10,000 Years (or something to that extent), what hope is there left for the story to continue? Things that I like about the series are almost gone completely.

And the journalists don't have to worry about us buying moar stuff. I already returned my PC copy back to Amazon this afternoon and unless there's anything coming soon, my PS3 copy is going back too.

why do u have two copies

Also play multiplayer it's pretty fun

 

[Riggs]

I just don't get why they commited IP suicide. Now that we know that space travel has been gone for 10,000 Years (or something to that extent), what hope is there left for the story to continue? Things that I like about the series are almost gone completely.

And the journalists don't have to worry about us buying moar stuff. I already returned my PC copy back to Amazon and unless there's anything coming soon, my PS3 copy is going back to.

Crazy times man. I loved DA but they just mutilated the 2nd. After this fiasco with ME I've lost so much confidence in BW. I thought DA2 was a fluke. Now I wonder if something internally inside BW is causing these fuck ups to happen.

 

[Riggs]

Wow holy fuck double coated in irony with a polish of sadness.

 

[Stat Flow]

It's really sad...looking at the ME3 non-spoiler thread. Seeing people twist over their decision to cure the genophage or side with the geth...if only they knew.

 

[Replicant]

why do u have two copies

Also play multiplayer it's pretty fun

I wanted to play it on PC later on if I have a good PC but since I haven't got one yet, I bought the PS3 version as well. Yeah, on a hindsight this is madness. Doesn't matter though, I already returned the PC one now. Should get my refund in a few days, in time to pre-order Silent Hill: Downpour. Here's hoping that game is better.

 

[Tokubetsu]

Crazy times man. I loved DA but they just mutilated the 2nd. After this fiasco with ME I've lost so much confidence in BW. I thought DA2 was a fluke. Now I wonder if something internally inside BW is causing these fuck ups to happen.

I'd like to think that maybe they're under too much pressure. Tighter deadlines etc. All I know is, short of a miracle, this is the last Bioware game I play day-one.

 

[Zerokku]

Lol common sense from game journalists, I use the word journalists lightly. Most of them shouldn't even be called bloggers imo.

Yah this whole reaction by the enthusiast press has really soured my opinion of them. Unfollowed a bunch of them on twitter, because they were being downright dickish/assholes in their response to the outcry.

 

[hateradio]

Crazy times man. I loved DA but they just mutilated the 2nd. After this fiasco with ME I've lost so much confidence in BW. I thought DA2 was a fluke. Now I wonder if something internally inside BW is causing these fuck ups to happen.

I imagine it's time. They rushed at the end for ME3, and DA2 was obviously a rushed job.

https://i.minus.com/ib2ymO5mO9WnRi.png [Image Link]

This is a case of Internet > GAF > Internet > GAF. (I'm the one who updates that blog.)

 

[Randolph Freelander]

It's really sad...looking at the ME3 non-spoiler thread. Seeing people twist over their decision to cure the genophage or side with the geth...if only they knew.

It matters.

On the inside.

 

[Cagey]

People should attend PAX East with quotes like this printed out onto cardboard signs.

It really says all that needs to be said.

 

[volturnus]

In other news:

It’s hard to imagine a game arriving with more hype, demands, and expectation from its fans than Mass Effect 3 (ME3). The first two Mass Effect games provided an incredible and innovative blend of gameplay and story; with such an impressive standard, developer BioWare’s challenge for ME3 is not only to conclude the series, but to finish a tale that millions of gamers consider one of the most sacred ever to grace gaming consoles. Rest assured, ME3 is nearly everything you could imagine, flawed in few areas, and perfect in ways you never expected.

[...]Though galaxy travel has been a feature since the first game in 2007, ME3 tweaks it just enough to feel innovative. Gone is the endless planet scanning of ME2; instead, you’re tasked with various goals that add to your galactic readiness, a feature that reflects how well you’ve searched for resources and members for the final conflict against the Reapers. It’s a small change, but it adds gravitas to the game and makes you give attention to even the most remote corners of space.

[...]

BioWare’s storytelling ability has never been better than in Mass Effect 3, as the fully realized storyline features impressive voice-acting and script work that firmly establishes Shepard and his crew at the center of the story. It’s this narrative element that makes ME3 considerably more impressive than its philosophical sibling Halo. Thousands of lines of spoken dialogue are heard over the course of the game, each one masterfully delivered and contribute in creating one of the most memorable cast of characters in gaming history. Seriously, these characters put other ensemble casts to shame. Spending time with them is at the heart of ME3; by far, the most satisfying moments of ME3 for me came not in combat (not that it’s at all lackluster), but in a conversation with a crew member.



Don’t worry, veterans of the series – familiar faces from earlier games are entwined in your story, and your decisions from earlier games impact available crew members and their fates. You can again pursue a relationship with various characters in the game (even if you wine and dined another character in ME2), but remember – like real life, consistency and time are key. Not to ruin anything, but it’s a testament to the game’s emotional power that after five years and three games, the most sublime moment in ME3 came within a simple picture frame.

[...]

The only areas that are lacking are mission variety and multiplayer, though these are lesser concerns. Once you finish recruiting the game’s crew, there are painfully few side missions to keep you occupied, lending credence to the chorus of voices complaining about downloadable content coinciding with the game’s release. But the main story is why you’re playing, and you shouldn’t think of something extra as something missing. The inclusion of a new multiplayer mode adds re-playability, but you’ll most likely play it because of the impact it can have on the single-player story. Still, it’s a welcome diversion and should tide you over until the game’s next inevitable DLC release (and hopefully Mass Effect 4).

I’ve never been privy to a game that caused me to wonder, question, and embrace humanity’s place and purpose as greatly as Mass Effect 3. It is worth noting – BioWare attempts to tailor the game for new players, yet the experience is undeniably deeper and more rewarding if you have already played Mass Effect’s previous games.Would I argue that it’s the greatest game ever made? Well, perhaps one day and after much contemplation. Maybe. But I just finished the game, and all I can think about is how much I already joyfully miss – not in sadness, but satisfaction – the characters and conversations in it. It mirrors how we should one day look back on our own lives, better for having known exceptional people and forever changed by being a part of their community and family. Mass Effect 3 is easily 2012’s best game yet and a monumental achievement of narrative in video-games. Bravo BioWare. Bravo.

Source:
http://darkzero.co.uk/game-reviews/mass-effect-3-xbox-360/

 

[WanderingWind]

"what bosh'tet wrote this crap," indeed Tali.

 

[littleworm]

It's really sad...looking at the ME3 non-spoiler thread. Seeing people twist over their decision to cure the genophage or side with the geth...if only they knew.

If they keep coming were going to run out of hugs :/.

 

[Bowdz]

I'm curious to see how this fiasco effects SWTOR accounts (if at all). It sounded like a lot of BSN people were canceling their accounts because of their dissatisfaction with ME3's ending. It would send a pretty nice message to Bioware that: a) they messed up with the ending and b) people don't want nor need a ME MMORPG.

 

[Zeliard]

I just don't get why they commited IP suicide. Now that we know that space travel has been gone for 10,000 Years (or something to that extent), what hope is there left for the story to continue? Things that I like about the series are almost gone completely.

We'll play as a Krogan main character as we eat what remains of the galaxy. Turns out curing the genophage was a bad idea.

 

[Riggs]

Yah this whole reaction by the enthusiast press has really soured my opinion of them. Unfollowed a bunch of them on twitter, because they were being downright dickish/assholes in their response to the outcry.

It's sad we all love games but someone always has to be a dick it seems. Everyone has a role to play, I guess. Marauder Shields had a role to play, I will not forget.

 

[WanderingWind]

Oh, fuck. Vega is the head writer for BioWare

:dead:

 

[SCHUEY F1]

I was really looking forward to playing again with my Fem Shep, but I don't think I can be bothered right now. I know expectations were really high, but the ending has really coloured my view of what was probably one of my favorite franchises.

 

[Tokubetsu]

It's sad we all love games but someone always has to be a dick it seems. Everyone has a role to play, I guess. Marauder Shields had a role to play, I will not forget.

Marauder Shields forgive them, for they know not what they do.

 

[Bowdz]

the most sublime moment in ME3 came within a simple picture frame.

Something tells me they don't know about the cheap photoshop Bioware did for Tali.

Also, it never occurred to me until someone pointed it out, but how the hell did Tali even take that photo? It sure as hell wasn't on Rannoch, or in the flotilla, or on the Normandy. It is not that big of a deal, but it is the minor inaccuracies that detract from the intended poignancy of the moment.

 

[Derrick01]

Well, on the plus side, at least we have all those other character driven universe rich science fiction trilogies to look forward to.

Oh.

Wait.

I'm hoping CD Projekt are working on this sci fi game that some people have said they're working on. I don't really know anything about what their next stuff is though.

 

[Dresden]

In other news:

 

[Randolph Freelander]

Marauder Shields killed me the first time, I must admit. I wasn't paying attention.

Roll the credits.

 

[Zeliard]

As much as I love The Witcher I do hope CD Projekt's next projekt is something different. An RPG, of course, but something like a sci-fi game would be amazing from them, especially since fantasy RPG is a fucking overloaded genre.

 

[Riggs]

I'm hoping CD Projekt are working on this sci fi game that some people have said they're working on. I don't really know anything about what their next stuff is though.

If god has any heart, this will happen.

 

[Uriah]

So amazing.

 

[hateradio]

http://blog.vh1.com/files/2009/04/ray_zoom.gif

Something tells me they don't know about the cheap photoshop Bioware did for Tali.

Also, it never occurred to me until someone pointed it out, but how the hell did Tali even take that photo? It sure as hell wasn't on Rannoch, or in the flotilla, or on the Normandy. It is not that big of a deal, but it is the minor inaccuracies that detract from the intended poignancy of the moment.

I think the author is joking, since it said the game was missing multiplayer.

That, or s/he's hi.

So amazing.

Imagine if he had gone 100% with space magic. I'm glad they reduced it to just parts of the end.

 

[volturnus]

I think the author is joking, since it said the game was missing multiplayer.

That, or s/he's hi.

No, strangely enough he mentions the multiplayer a few lines later.

http://i.imgur.com/auJlb.png

Holy shit @ some quotes there LOL

 

[The Technomancer]

Well, on the plus side, at least we have all those other character driven universe rich science fiction trilogies to look forward to.

Oh.

Wait.

Grah! I know! Right?! All of the stuff I love about the franchise are the things that I don't really see anywhere else

 

[Riggs]

Lololool game journalism pic with those meta critic reviews is so perfect! Is that Justin Mcelroy btw? He was such a dick on Twitter to me discussing SOPA.

 

[Stat Flow]

http://i.imgur.com/auJlb.png[IMG][/QUOTE]
What the fuck? I never kept up with ME3 media as to avoid spoilers...but the game (and it's ENDING) was received this well???

I don't even...

There are few times when the close to a series is so bad that it completely sours how great the prior 2 and 9/10ths of the series was. We're experiencing one of those rare times right now.

 

[Dany]

How much of the shit ending invalidates the rest of the game? It is the best in the trilogy

 

[Stat Flow]

How much of the shit ending invalidates the rest of the game? It is the best in the trilogy

It invalidates the entire series.

I dare someone who has seen/played through all possible endings of ME3 to go back and play ME1/2 and try to give any fucks.

 

[Sapphire Dreams]

You know guys something just occurred to me.

That starchild has said that Synthetics will always rebel against their creators .

HOWEVER is has been established in the game that the Geth only fought aginst their creators because of their creator's villainous acts and THEN Shepard have established peace among the Geth and the Quarians.

So the Starchild is actually wrong on this point. Good God I discover more plot holes in this ending as time goes by >_>

 

[EatChildren]

It invalidates the entire series.

I dare someone who has seen/played through all possible endings of ME3 to go back and play ME1/2 and try to give any fucks.

*raises hand*

It doesn't invalidate the entire series for me, because I still enjoy the games.

 

[inky]

What is so unique about this game is that the presence of its conclusion feels like the existential dread that infuses the characters that make up its universe. The paradox of the game becomes painfully prescient as it draws inexorably towards its conclusion

...

This shit right here is why I avoid game reviews. Ugh.

 

[Dresden]

It invalidates the entire series.

I dare someone who has seen/played through all possible endings of ME3 to go back and play ME1/2 and try to give any fucks.

Let some time pass, time (and bitching endlessly on the forum) helps a lot.

 

[WanderingWind]

What the fuck? I never kept up with ME3 media as to avoid spoilers...but the game (and it's ENDING) was received this well???

I don't even...

There are few times when the close to a series is so bad that it completely sours how great the prior 2 and 9/10ths of the series was. We're experiencing one of those rare times right now.

Well, basically it's because literally nothing you did mattered. No quest mattered, no choice mattered. All those sacrifices of loyal crew members that tugged at your heart string were proven to be nothing at all.

The entire universe they spent 3 games building, they tore down because they weren't clever or studious enough to do anything else with it. They said, "Hey, loved Mass Effect? Too bad. It's utterly destroyed, and you wasted every second that you played it. It all meant nothing, and we couldn't even be arsed to give you a proper ending! Thanks for the money, asshole! Buy our DLC!"

 

[Attackthebase]

It invalidates the entire series.

I dare someone who has seen/played through all possible endings of ME3 to go back and play ME1/2 and try to give any fucks.

Unless Bioware fixes the end, I'll never touch the prior games again. I have a renegade Femshep who will never be played again because of this shit ending. I've never seen an ending that was so bad, especially for a trilogy conclusion.

 

[Riggs]

*raises hand*

It doesn't invalidate the entire series for me, because I still enjoy the games.

Wish I felt the same man, really do

 

[Disheveled_Zen]

Lol at all the reviews that use needlessly big words in an attempt to sound smart. You can still write well without having to resort to words no one ever uses in a conversation.

Also I would argue that the majority of reviewers never even actually finish the games. Had they, I am sure we would see different scores across the board.

 

[MasterShotgun]

It invalidates the entire series.

I dare someone who has seen/played through all possible endings of ME3 to go back and play ME1/2 and try to give any fucks.

I'm replaying ME1 right now, and I'm still giving fucks. It's just that none of those fucks involve the Reapers (and the horrible combat). The atmosphere, music, individual characters, and minor plotlines are still great.

EDIT: Hell, the plot contained within ME1 is good. The problems start to arrive when you apply it to the overall trilogy. And most of those problems were the result of retcons/inconsistencies in ME2 & ME3.

 

[hateradio]

...

This shit right here is why I avoid game reviews. Ugh.

Sounds like someone loves using a thesaurus.

You know guys something just occurred to me.

That starchild has said that Synthetics will always rebel against their creators .

HOWEVER is has been established in the game that the Geth only fought aginst their creators because of their creator's villainous acts and THEN Shepard have established peace among the Geth and the Quarians.

So the Starchild is actually wrong on this point. Good God I discover more plot holes in this ending as time goes by >_>

Yes, one of the issues is that the Geth are a peaceful sentient race of robotics. The Reapers actually indoctrinated some of them -- The Heritics. Then those started the fighting. Reapers and their bullshit.

 

[Riggs]

...

This shit right here is why I avoid game reviews. Ugh.

What the fuck? Give me his IP so I can disable his keyboard!! Sorry for back to back posts btw can't multi quote on my phone!

 

[volturnus]

How much of the shit ending invalidates the rest of the game? It is the best in the trilogy

It's not that it invalidates the rest of the game, but some claims are simply absurd.
The DarkZero journalist says that ''ME2'S planet scanning is gone'', which is a disingenuous way of saying it was changed a bit. He says lack of mission variety is a lesser concern and that BioWare's writing has never been better than in ME3, which is a completely false statement.
It may not invalidate the rest of the franchise as much as many claim it does, but to call it a ''monumental achievement of narrative in video games''?
''Don't piss in my ear and tell me it's raining''.

 

[Apophenia Overload]

It's such a shame that the Illusive Man turns into Saren 2.0. His theme music is so intriguing to have him simply turn into another suicidal crazy Reaper control man.

Angry Joe's takedown of the ending was right. It would have been better if you could convince him to step down or to even help you. And yeah he shouldn't have just had similar motivations to Saren.

 

[Stat Flow]

*raises hand*

It doesn't invalidate the entire series for me, because I still enjoy the games.

I don't mean to say that they wouldn't still be fun. As far as gaming, they are valid pieces of work. But as far as plot? I don't see how anyone could revisit the game for plot (other than to find more plot holes for the ME3 ending) and care about the "decisions" you make.

It's sad, because after the very epic and crushing Thessia mission, I was telling my sister (who was watching the playthrough) how much I love Mass Effect for making me feel like the shit I do matters. Not only that, but how it made me feel like the smaller things would all matter at the end, which was sure to be epic. This train of thought was set in stone when I saw the outcome of the Geth/Quarian feud, and despite it being hard to get over Legion's death, it was a perfect example of Shep's choices being important as fuck for future events.

And then, none of it mattered.