Lionsgate has set Catching Fire for a November 22, 2013 release. So basically a year and two-thirds wait. Based on that turnaround, I suspect the third film will hit summer 2015 and the fourth film fall 2016. No film in 2014.
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Lionsgate has set Catching Fire for a November 22, 2013 release. So basically a year and two-thirds wait. Based on that turnaround, I suspect the third film will hit summer 2015 and the fourth film fall 2016. No film in 2014.
Mac the KNife
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I liked it in the film, where it's better to show than tell, as well. But I also liked the tight focus of the book. You were with Kat the whole way, and wondering what she was wondering brought more tension and weight to the story.
If I was to guess, I'd say they'll release the three remaining films in November 2013, November 2014, and November 2015.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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I thought it took all of the immediacy out of the story. The first-person perspective lets the viewer in both on Katniss's various aches and pains, her shifting psychology, and the little thoughts she has that make her not such a goddamned Mary Sue, which is what she is from beginning to end in the movie. Which of the omniscient glimpses away from the Games themselves really illuminated anything other than plot?
That's an awfully short turnaround. I realize that Twilight has done it, but I would think these movies would have a much longer production cycle. The second movie is locked in, but I would tend to think the third and fourth will be shot simultaneously which would delay their release.
I guess we'll get a good indication when the second movie starts production. Apparently the first film starting shooting last May, so thats an 11 month production start --> release cycle. Catching Fire will presumably start shooting this summer which would make for a much longer than 11 month cycle.
BertramCooper
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My biggest beef with the books is that I never fully bought into the world of Panem. It never seemed real to me.
By integrating the events outside of the arena into the narrative, it made it all slightly more convincing for me. We got to see a bit of the impact the games have as they were happening, rather than in retrospect (which Collins does far too often).
Does it weaken Katniss as a character? Slightly, perhaps. But I think it everything else benefits from it.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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See, I thought the films totally destroyed any sense of illusion that the world might have had. In my head, I could sort of integrate the disparate descriptions into something less jarring, but the production design in the film was such a mess that it really only illuminated the flimsiness inherent in the premise itself.
Then again, I'm defending a book that I thought kinda bad in the first place, so what do I care? I'm only disappointed that the adaptation didn't even use its medium to overcome one of the major flaws of the book: the terrible style of the prose. Instead, we get shaky-cam, the filmic equivalent.
I heard on the radio the other day that Lionsgate is asking Jennifer Lawrence to drop some weight before HG2. Now, this was one of those rumor-mongering celeb gossip trash types of things, but apparently they had a recent picture of her on their Facebook page looking kind of chunky. But Ive seen some pics of her doing the premiere circuit and she looked great. My penis is confused.
BertramCooper
Banned
I do wish they would have toned down a bit of the Capitol shtick in the film. That said, I think the visual contrast of the Capitol and the districts worked much better on film than it did in the book.
Books 2 and 3 shouldn't have been written completely from Katniss' POV anyway, it should have been like Game of Thrones or something.
However I think the whole story of the one Hunger Games in Book 1 is better told from one point of view as it focuses on the situation she is in.
BertramCooper
Banned
Honestly, it's probably not a terrible idea.
Mockingjay needs overhauled considerably to work. Half of the fucking book takes place while Katniss is unconscious. So if you change that and make it so that Katniss isn't passed out all of the goddamn time, there's actually quite a bit of potential material there.
Having not read the books:
- The shaky cam in District 12 worked. It set up a nice contrast with the Capitol. It helped set up a good sense of fear and mania. Could have used a bit more visual description on what actually happens day to day and their plights, but it generally worked. I really liked the District parts of the movie, I just wish we got a little more.
- The Capitol sets were terrible. Awful. They looked like shit, especially when they should have been some of the most visually stunning parts of the film.
- Dat chariot GCI. Good god.
- The actual games were wonderful. An incredible sense of danger and loss, I don't know what that Vulture review was talking about. Ross did an incredible job connecting us to minor characters like Foxface or even Cato at the end.
- Cried like a baby with Rue and the uprising.
- Perfectly cast. Everyone was ON FIRE! (sorry.)
HP7 needed it, considering what they had pitched to cut with only one movie.
- The shaky cam in District 12 worked. It set up a nice contrast with the Capitol. It helped set up a good sense of fear and mania. Could have used a bit more visual description on what actually happens day to day and their plights, but it generally worked. I really liked the District parts of the movie, I just wish we got a little more.
- The Capitol sets were terrible. Awful. They looked like shit, especially when they should have been some of the most visually stunning parts of the film.
- Dat chariot GCI. Good god.
- The actual games were wonderful. An incredible sense of danger and loss, I don't know what that Vulture review was talking about. Ross did an incredible job connecting us to minor characters like Foxface or even Cato at the end.
- Cried like a baby with Rue and the uprising.
- Perfectly cast. Everyone was ON FIRE! (sorry.)
HP7 needed it, considering what they had pitched to cut with only one movie.
Ahh, good point.
the unconscious stuff was bloody ridiculous though. The two worst moments being after she gets shot and after she shoots whatsherface at the end. Really didn't like Mockingjay.
toxicgonzo
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Pachterballs
Banned
finished book 2 last night. amped for this to go ahead. even better than 1!!!!
yup. if it was singular movie; HP7 would have been too rushed. Even with 2 movies; it still feels like it moved too fast.
yup. if it was singular movie; HP7 would have been too rushed. Even with 2 movies; it still feels like it moved too fast.
Book 2's amazing. Both twists are freaking great, and the new characters are really fun.
Finnick for life.
That was one of the best moments in the film.
Just saw this movie. I found it pretty enjoyable, and well done overall. Nothing I hadn't already seen in Battle Royale though.
Only gripes I had with it were the shaky action sequences, which come off as lazy to me. I also wish there was more violence, but I guess that's what you get with PG 13.
Only gripes I had with it were the shaky action sequences, which come off as lazy to me. I also wish there was more violence, but I guess that's what you get with PG 13.
The shaky action scenes were shaky exactly because of the PG-13 rating.
demosthenes
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Gah my book 2 gets here on Tuesday, I can't wait to get it.
Yeah, you're probably right
It's a shame but oh well. That was really one of my only major complaints.
The
fight at the end on top of that structure
the guy was put into a headlock
Pachterballs
Banned
I kept thinking of the tall swedish vampire from true blood when reading it - I wonder who they're going to cast.
yeah; the premise for 2 is great. devoured the novel. real page turner.
This. What a boss.
Herbspiceguy
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Watched the movie today, didn't read the books. Thought it was allright.
What I missed in a movie like this is more raw emotion and a deep sense desperation & fear.
These kids are basically sent to die in a pretty messed up way. Except for the "pro's" they've just lived ordinary lives, yet they don't really seem that shocked about participating in the game. I'd imagine them to turn white and throw up, crying and resisting because they don't want to fight or kill anyone. This should lead to moral struggles, competition between eachother (I'd imagine the pro's to get competitive and eventually suspicious and paranoid of eachother as the game nears the end), betrayal and secret alliances
but in a life or death situation I can imagine this would play a much, much bigger role).
I also don't like it that
I think it would've been more interesting if it was more grey.
The movie could've used more dramatic life or death scenes. Instead of shitty shakey cam fights, death scenes or chases that really capture sense of raw survival instinct mixed with human emotion/morals. The movie gives me the impression everyone is fine with killing eachother.
I think this would've made the movie/story a lot more convincing & interesting.
What I missed in a movie like this is more raw emotion and a deep sense desperation & fear.
These kids are basically sent to die in a pretty messed up way. Except for the "pro's" they've just lived ordinary lives, yet they don't really seem that shocked about participating in the game. I'd imagine them to turn white and throw up, crying and resisting because they don't want to fight or kill anyone. This should lead to moral struggles, competition between eachother (I'd imagine the pro's to get competitive and eventually suspicious and paranoid of eachother as the game nears the end), betrayal and secret alliances
(ok there's the Peeta joining the bad team early on,
I also don't like it that
there's the obvious "bad team", with the leader dying a typical horrible death and good couple that gets the happy end.
The movie could've used more dramatic life or death scenes. Instead of shitty shakey cam fights, death scenes or chases that really capture sense of raw survival instinct mixed with human emotion/morals. The movie gives me the impression everyone is fine with killing eachother.
I think this would've made the movie/story a lot more convincing & interesting.
The second book is great and the best in the series.
The third book is very political and has some great concepts, but it's bogged down by Collins' uninspired writing. Movie has potential to redeem the book though.
I hope they up the budget considerably for Catching Fire. The
arena for the 75th Hunger Games
Pollux
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What 3 remaining films, aren't there only 3 books? Or is book 3 being divided in half?
The second book is probably the best overall in the series--it's disappointing if you go into it wanting the first book redux, but it actually builds pretty well on the events of the first and will make for one hell of a movie if they do it right.
The third is not well-regarded in general. It has some pacing issues, doesn't explain things as well as it should, and is comparatively dark. I personally like the actual ending of everything, but the execution of how they got there was lacking. Things that could have been quicker dragged, and some things that needed to be a bigger deal got glossed over. It's the one that will most need to be 'fixed' to pull off a good movie.
Yep, the actors signed on for 4 films
you will set yourself up for disappointment if expecting more of the same as the first. The switch in themes and tone happen abruptly on the way to the third book.
Otherwise, all three books are fine. I preferred the 3rd but most prefer the second.
book 3 from a storytelling perspective could pretty easily be split in two assuming they flesh out the story within its' framework.
3 would be good enough in my opinion and for spoilery reasons.
BertramCooper
Banned
Yeah,
Finnick is awesome. So is Johanna.
Apparently Kristen Bell has been pushing hard to get the part of Johanna. Which would suck, because she's totally wrong for it in almost every way.
Apparently Kristen Bell has been pushing hard to get the part of Johanna. Which would suck, because she's totally wrong for it in almost every way.
Ken Masters
Banned
just saw the movie, pretty Fn sweet
TheDiabolical
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Gamer @ Heart
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I'm sure they did it so they can ease into it much faster in the second movie. Also, CB would have cost way more to shoot.
Pachterballs
Banned
whats great about movie 2 is that
The age group diversifies so you have much older hunger contestants. Carey Mulligan might make a good johanna. She can act anyhow.
Gamer @ Heart
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Oh, god. Watch them split it.
Then again, i think they signed them all up already so it may not happen.
Eeeew. Dear God, please, no.
I like her, but she doesn't fit the character at all. At least not in my mind.
The main actors all initially signed for four movies.
They'll split Mockingjay if they, in any possible way, can.
splitting Mockingjay would be just plain awful.
I finally saw it today, thought it was FANTASTIC. This and Deathly Hallows Pt 2 have restored my faith in book adaptations
Woody Harrelson's portrayal of Haymitch was outstanding. I complained to my friend after that the worst part was the decision to
was the worst part of the movie. Obviously that really wasn't a problem with the movie
I finally saw it today, thought it was FANTASTIC. This and Deathly Hallows Pt 2 have restored my faith in book adaptations
Woody Harrelson's portrayal of Haymitch was outstanding. I complained to my friend after that the worst part was the decision to
kill off Clove, Glimmer, and Foxface
Splitting Catching Fire would be awful. Splitting Mockingjay, on the other hand, could be a really good opportunity to dive into some of the book's issues and maybe fix them.
Ross has already proven himself in the casting aspect. I trust he'll make the right decisions.
BertramCooper
Banned
Yeah, that would be awful. He sucks, and he's too young anyway.
He's around the same age as Lawrence, and
Finnick is supposed to be about seven years older than Katniss. So really, they should be shooting for someone in their late 20s for Finnick.
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