Battersea Power Station
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I have a 4.7" screen right now and I wish it was bigger. Dunno how people can claim big phones are silly when so many people actually want them.
Samsung sells 5 million Galaxy Notes in 5 months.
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I'm sure he would, not to mention the 4.3" phones out there. It's entirely understandable...at least from his particular perspective.
Good thing we're all smart enough to know that individual needs trump overarching design principles when it comes to personal use.
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I love my Note, greatest phone ever.
shamo42
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I went to the store today to check it out.
Loved the screen size and sharpness but colors seemed to be off. Sample pictures looked way over-saturated. Especially the red and greens.
I'm scared now photos and movies will look crappy on the note. Is it possible to calibrate the display?
Loved the screen size and sharpness but colors seemed to be off. Sample pictures looked way over-saturated. Especially the red and greens.
I'm scared now photos and movies will look crappy on the note. Is it possible to calibrate the display?
I can't believe there is a market for this device. Saw one in person and it looks so unwieldy and people look like tools answering calls on the thing. This trend of bigger and bigger phones is retarded, IMO a phone should be able to be used one handed or it fails. I tried the galaxy nexus and i just couldn't use it reliably with one hand, with the note, forget about it. Maybe I drank the apple kool aid, but I don't want a phone bigger than 3.5" that's the sweet spot for me and I will be disappointed if apple makes a larger iPhone this year.
Maybe you should lay off that Koolaid. Spending like a minute inside a store is hardly the amount of time one needs to get acclimated to something that's that big of a change.
Also all the people worried about looking like a tool are really just telling us that they judge other people based on what gizmo they're using.
BudokaiMR2
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For someone obviously posting on an easy to use small iphone you seem to have trouble finding the enter key.
Maybe its not the best for typing when its that small?
Lol
freenudemacusers
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But it will only feel like 3.5". dat apple magic.
I type like a drunken sailor on my ipad... I love it, but for some reason it just doesn't work as nicely as the iphone in this area ime.
Good lord, only apple users primary concern of a phone would be how it operates as a fashion accessory. I'd love to get a note as I love large screens and I also have larger hands so the size thing doesn't even come into play with me. If the Note looks stupid big than the iPhone looks silly small.
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I don't think I've ever said that I wouldn't want a bigger screen on the iPhone. What I have said is that a screen size increase would definitely come with a resolution increase to keep it "Retina", but the weird engineering problems that introduces doesn't seem to be beneficial.
Whatever the next iPhone is or looks like, it'll have a 300+ PPI display.
Not exactly thrilled with the idea of a bigger phone, but I'd give it a shot. Something comically large like the Note would make me double take...but there's next no chance Apple releases a phone that big in this next iteration or ever. There'd sooner be an iPad Mini than a Giga-iPhone.
Edit: Fanboy wars getting hot...time to bounce!
Apple will go bigger, but I doubt they'll pass 4.0". I could not own an iPhone again at 3.5". Using my friends' makes me feel cramped. I can't wait for the next announcement because I do want Apple back on my phone radar. I'm worried that even 4" might not be enough now though.
The usability issues with one hand is a bigger issue for me than looking stupid taking a call with the thing. You shouldn't have to get used to the size of something, it should feel comfortable from the start. Am I the only person that values being able to use a phone with one hand? Most of these super large phones fail at this basic use case. I haven't tried a phone above 4" that works well with one hand.
freenudemacusers
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lol
BudokaiMR2
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haha goddamnit. so we can just chalk it up to shitty iOS chat response then.
My wife finally made the change to smartphone and wont stop complaining about the lack of BUTTONS. Can't type nearly as fast with these laggy ass touch screens! Anyone who doubts her has never seen a japanese woman texting on a clamshell at turbo speed.
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I don't have big hands but I can use the Nexus just fine with one hand. Who cares if it takes some time to adjust if in the end you can comfortably use a phone with bigger/nicer screen? The net result is purely benefit for you. I used to balk at the idea of a screen that size, but once I got used to it, it's been great.
BudokaiMR2
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I honestly want you to go around your office tomorrow and put your hands up to everyone else and compare them.
I think you will be surprised.
Yeah maybe the average hand is more comfortable at iphone size, but that is just an average. Can't base everything on it.
And no I am not worried about being able to hold a phone with one hand. I can palm a fucking basketball with one hand I think a phone is no problem.
Personally, I don't find myself needing to use my phone with one hand a lot. Sometimes it happens, but I can live with it especially since I also have an 4S. Best of both worlds.
I actually find myself enjoying typing on touchscreens these days because you don't need any effort to push buttons. Just light touches for everything. Of course I still don't type as fast as I am on blackberry. Not as tiring though.
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3.5" is way too small. I can see the GN's 4.65" being too big, but 4-4.3 should be the sweet spot for most people I think. But yeah, 3.5 is too small
that's what she said.
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Ignatz Mouse
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It's simple, one size does not fit all. I think my phone is the upper limit of reasonable, but I'm not everybody.
That's the chielf limitation with the iPhone-- you conform it it, it doesn't conform to you. To counter that, they make it the most possibly appealing single phone model they can, but again, that won't be for everybody (like me).
That's the chielf limitation with the iPhone-- you conform it it, it doesn't conform to you. To counter that, they make it the most possibly appealing single phone model they can, but again, that won't be for everybody (like me).
Dreams-Visions
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lol, this thread.
are people really using home, landline phones to justify their position on the size of this Note and feel secure? you guys are crazy.
are people really using home, landline phones to justify their position on the size of this Note and feel secure? you guys are crazy.
poppabk
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Relative to a flip phone the iphone looks huge and unwieldy and ill-fitted for use as a phone.
iPhone 4S, Samsung Galaxy S II, HTC Titan and the Galaxy Note.
I can understand the appeal but I personally wouldn't use something of that size in public, less because I think it looks silly and more because I live in a developing country where smartphones are just starting to catch on and anything of that size would draw too much unwanted attention here. #developingworldproblems
freenudemacusers
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what are your thoughts on the note
Dreams-Visions
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even so, 5 million shipped...however many sold. I'd like to get a 5-months-in review from those early adopters.
CrunchinJelly
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I heard dungarees are back in fashion.
Secure? What?
Love it. Great for reading PDFs.
Been using it for 2-3 months. Great phone, but not for everyone. Fits on normal pockets without casing, not as big as you think. Extra screen estate makes whole lot of difference. It's too bad that android kinda sucked on the app side. Operation is jankier than a 4S too. I think that should already cover most things.
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Stylus is a dissapointment. Not as accurate as I want it to be. Sometimes there's a gap between the tip of your stylus and where the digital ink starts. It can be fixed be rotating the screen. Probably software related. Screen color reproduction is troublesome on my note. If you are playing movies with varying levels of black, it won't render the middle shades of the blacks. I fixed this by a software patch when I was on gingerbread but I haven't find a fix for my ICS build. I also encountered the battery killing suspend bug on my android which I fix by updating to a custom kernel. Most of my problems are with android and not with the hardware itself. I wish apple would do a note sized (which probably will never happen) phone because I would dump android in a heartbeat in its current state. Try comparing feedly on ios and android side by side, it's really sad the state of android apps. If google currents can perform really really well, why is feedly janky as hell?
polyh3dron
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doesn't this thing have froyo on it or some shit?
Android: Even brand new phones come out with their OS version being 2 generations behind.
Android: Even brand new phones come out with their OS version being 2 generations behind.
Comes with Gingerbread which was the latest (phone) OS version on release. Now if your complaint was that it takes forever to get an upgrade, you'd be right.
I never had a flip phone so I wouldn't know. I only had 2 cellphones in my life before jumping in on smartphones and they were roughly the same size of the iPhone as far as ergonomics go, just a bit smaller, thicker and with keyboards, so I'm used to it. One was an Ericsson that was robbed from me (can't remember the model) and the other was a Samsung that lasted me forever (a Samsung Beat Twist, slider phone).
I had a 4.3" HTC DHD before the iPhone and 4.0/4.3 is my current personal screen size limit. Maybe that changes in the future, who knows. I certainly don't need or want a 5.3" phablet right now, but like Cipherr said it's interesting to see a market for something like it growing.
Ignatz Mouse
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This post says volumes about you, by way of projection.
Explain to me again why holding a 7inch dildo to your face does not make you look like a fool while holding a 5.3inch plank to your face is considered ridiculous?
ShinNL
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Well, since I upgraded not too long ago I don't have to worry about any new phone anytime soon. When I was looking I wished there were more choices in small Android phones. Then right when my contract was about to end, Xperia Ray showed up. Lucky me.
3.3" screen, widescreen, lots of power (same specs as original Arc). It seems only Sony Ericsson (rip) gets it when it comes to small phones (previously Mini and Mini Pro). But unlike the Mini that I previously had, this phone is like actually, a full featured phone. Highest DPI for any Android phone at the time of release as well. I'm 100% in love with the shape and size. So thin and it has the nostalgic candy bar shape of older phones, which is perfect for me.
I don't think I've ever had the feeling I needed a bigger screen ever since I have this phone. However, precision for Draw Something is something I do want, so having the stylus tech on a Ray-size phone would be nice.
As for typing, almost never type anything wrong... and I type in QWERTY in portrait mode. I thank SwiftKey for this, such a great software keyboard.
3.3" screen, widescreen, lots of power (same specs as original Arc). It seems only Sony Ericsson (rip) gets it when it comes to small phones (previously Mini and Mini Pro). But unlike the Mini that I previously had, this phone is like actually, a full featured phone. Highest DPI for any Android phone at the time of release as well. I'm 100% in love with the shape and size. So thin and it has the nostalgic candy bar shape of older phones, which is perfect for me.
I don't think I've ever had the feeling I needed a bigger screen ever since I have this phone. However, precision for Draw Something is something I do want, so having the stylus tech on a Ray-size phone would be nice.
As for typing, almost never type anything wrong... and I type in QWERTY in portrait mode. I thank SwiftKey for this, such a great software keyboard.
Because drawing arbitrary lines in the sand is cool.
You know, the same could be said for those who criticize the size of the Note as well
Goddamn, people sure are passionate about phones. As long as Apple keeps making the iPhone, I personally don't care what happens to other models/platforms.
I guess my only slight concern would be that this tablet-phone thing really takes off and influences Apple to move in a similarly elephantine direction. But otherwise it makes no difference to me.
I guess my only slight concern would be that this tablet-phone thing really takes off and influences Apple to move in a similarly elephantine direction. But otherwise it makes no difference to me.
Dreams-Visions
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That's what's up. Sounds like an interesting device indeed. I'll have to check one out in the store at some point.
it does? tell me oracle, what does it say.
Well, I don't have a problem with the phone, but since you asked: If you've noticed the general trend of mobile cellular phone technologies over the last...30 years...the trend has been to move as far away from the "7 inch dildo" when on the go as possible. "The more portable, the better" has been the driving theme behind the mobile phone industry's design and development efforts for the majority of these 30 or so years since the first really commercial mobile phones were made available (we had one, complete with a hook to hang the dildo up on, and a shoulder strap to carry it on). The home phone is contrasts in several important ways and is a different category of technology altogether. Home phones are designed to be infinitely cheaper, designed so that multiple handsets can have access to the same line, designed for durability and absolute simplicity, designed with an antenna to just connect to the local base rather than some tower miles away. Never, ever designed to be as compact and well-engineered as possible. People haven't complained about the size of home phones because they're not putting them in their pockets...so why radically redesign them anyway?
All of which is why they're silly to compare. I don't have any problem with the phone, though it looks big to me. I just think it's silly as shit to see people comparing home phones to cell phones as a means of feeling better about the rather incredible size of this particular phone. If you like it, enjoy it for what it is, while understanding the reasons others are a bit shy on it if the reasons are fair.
in what way? people are saying it looks silly because it's so cumbersome relative to what the industry has been putting out the last 15 years at least and what they've accepted a cell phone should be in terms of compactness. I think that's a fair critique and I don't see them bringing out any bad analogies, but I haven't read every post in the thread either.
I personally think the phone is a cool niche device. I'm not going to get defensive about it when I think a critique is fair, though. It is an unusually large device for a cell phone.
Ignatz Mouse
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It says you feel the need to take stances on electronic devices you do or do not own, and then build cases for or against them.
Dreams-Visions
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And my stance here is: it's a cool phone, nice piece of tech, atypically large and thus, not for everyone. If it's for you cool, but it's still a bigass cell phone.
That's been my opinion from my opening post. It hasn't changed. Does it offend you that I found the intellectually dishonest "but it's smaller than a 7" dildo home phone" argument silly? Because that's all I've pointed out. Otherwise, it seems like a cool niche phone.
I've said no more or less than this.
Would you like me to now tell you what your responses say about YOU and your continuing failure to understand or interpret my comments despite their repeated, clear presentation since the beginning?
That was essentially the argument for the original iPhone. It's easy to forget how little the public trusted touch screen devices, especially for typing.
I personally would probably not buy a Note, since I have a phone and tablet, but I can see why one would like it.
Ignatz Mouse
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That I haven't read every post in the thread carefully?
Dreams-Visions
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Indeed. At the same time, typing on touch screens...presumably with a finger...really didn't exist before the iPhone. The closest to it was stylus-based WinMo Phones. And those required constant calibration and the use of a stylus to hit letters.
As one who had a T-Mobile MDA before the iPhone, the comparison you're making is kinda apples and oranges.
let's hug it out.
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